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From: boxer
To: Merlyn
Subject: dumbass
Date: Wed Jan 9 00:58:07 2002

Message:
Hey Cretin,

  Did the water in your trailer park split your chromosomes?  You 
sound like bin Laden when you spew your very unAmerican venom.  
Your arrogance is preceeded only by your stupidity.  Shabat 
Shalom.  

From: Pennsylvania, USA
To: All Terrorists
Subject: Your Day Will Come
Date: Thu Jan 10 20:12:09 2002

Message:
U will be wiped off the face of the earth by us (USA)

From: Noel Van Laden
To: Pennsylvania
Subject: Your Day Will Come
Date: Fri Jan 11 12:23:24 2002

Message:
That was extremely telling and informative of you. I sure hope 
your either a soldier a fighter or using some sort of 
pharmacutical substance. If some wants us dead, I think 
reasonably sane minded people realize, that we're probably going 
to be fried to some degree. Americans in my mind have always 
endured a high mortality rate due to Americans killing each other 
let alone terrorists. Anyone who can read a newspaper printed in 
"America" well there you go. Not to minimalize it, but what 
happened in the United States is nothing new to my stomach lining 
just a much higher dosage of the bullshit that seems almost 
lethal at times.

From: A patriatic Citizen
To: da USA
Subject: :(
Date: Mon Jan 14 21:20:40 2002

Message:
GOD BLESS THE USA

From: Pavel
To: Miss Led
Subject: mislead
Date: Tue Jan 15 14:00:39 2002

Message:
Horse potuties!

From: Alex Chiu
To: Everyone
Subject: MY breakthrough invention
Date: Thu Jan 17 17:56:27 2002

Message:
http://www.alexchiu.com/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=Jhoe

From: does not matter
To: terrist
Subject: nothing
Date: Thu Jan 24 18:14:48 2002

Message:
Why dont you understand how bad you are being making humen 
bombs.  We cant walk around New York like we use to.

From: om/cf
To: does not matter
Subject: something
Date: Fri Jan 25 23:05:23 2002

Message:
You walk around New York wherever you damn well please! Do not 
give in to the terrorists. Be strong.

From:
To:
Date: Sat Jan 26 14:33:54 2002

Message:
nhjjhkjkj,l

From: Merlyn
To: Boxer
Date: Tue Jan 29 20:04:06 2002

Message:
Eat shit and die...........Ass hole

From:
To: Sick Allah goat fuckers
Date: Tue Jan 29 20:11:13 2002

Message:
Do you really believe your Koran? It is a bunch of DOGMA! It is 
what keeps your people POOR, IGNORANT and SUBSERVANT. You sick 
ass holes are stuck in the same crap you were in 2000 years ago. 
DONT YOU THINK IT'S A CLUE???? You spout off about satin. You 
sick fucker YOU ARE SATIN!!!!!!!!!!!! Any ass hole who thinks 
war is holy is a sick misguided idiot! Wake up you stupid towel 
head! Why the fuck do you run around with a stinking dirty towel 
on your head any way? You look like a baby with the diaper on 
the head! You are an arrogant sick imbecile! Your stupid rock is 
no better than anyone else s! Wake up! You have your head stuck 
in a book written by a religious FREAK!!! The whole world is 
sacred. Not just your stupid rock you call home!! Fuck off you 
stupid ass hole. Get a grip! You idiots have been pissing at 
each other since the beginning of time. Nothing has changed! I 
am sick of the Holier than thou Muslims and Jews!!! Fuck you and 
your fucking religions!!!! Do you really think you will have 
virgins and plentiful fruit in paradise?? What a fucking 
IDIOT!!! You really believe that fairy tale??!! You are OUT OF 
YOUR FUCKING MIND. Get off the damn drugs!! you bunch of poppy 
headed idiots!!!!!!! YOU ARE GOING TO YOUR OWN LITTLE HELL!! you 
sick fucker.

From:
To: Patal
Date: Thu Jan 31 16:41:52 2002

Message:
Patal is a queer faggot

From: muslim
To: infidels
Subject: stupid fuckers
Date: Mon Feb 4 11:03:38 2002

Message:
THE QURAN HAS NO ERRORS INSIDE IT IS PROVEN BECAUSE:

IT SAYS SO IN THE QURAN (IT WILL REMAIN IN ITS SAME PRESENCE 
UNTIL THE DAY OF RECKONING) 
PEOPLE REVISE THE QURAN UNLIKE YOU LOT
THE QURAN IS REALISTIC, ITS PREDICTED THE FUTURE AND THE FUTURE 
HAS HAPPENED ACCORDING TO THE QURAN
NO ONE CAN EVEN WRITE A SMALL SENTENCE COMPARED TO THE QURAN

THE PRIESTS WILL EVEN ADMIT THAT THERE ARE ERRORS IN THE BIBLE 
I MEAN THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE NEW TESTAMENT CONTRADICTS 
ITSELF BY SAYING THERE ARE THREE YEARS AND SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE 
SO WHICH ONE IS IT?
IF JESUS IS SON OF GOD AND SON OF MARY WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP 
BETWEEN GOD AND MARY?

YOU DONT KNOW THE TRUTH BUT ONE DAY YOU WILL FIND OUT BUT IT 
WILL BE TOO LATE SO WAKE UP AND OPEN YOUR FUCKIN EYES

From:
To:
Date: Tue Feb 5 16:00:00 2002

Message:
PATAL>>>>>>>>>>>>>GOAT LICKER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<PATAL

From: CHRISTINA PAINTER
To: OSAMA BIN LADDEN:
Subject: FWD: WHY THERE HAS TO BE A REASON WHY EVERY ONE DOES SOMTHING!!!!!!!!
Date: Tue Feb 5 23:39:40 2002

Message:
OSAMA, 
                    
         I"M NOT HERE TO JUDGE YOU I WANT TO HELP YOU HELP 
YOURSELF.WHY DONT YOU COME TO TERMS WITH THE UNITED STATES AND 
SAY ON NATIONAL T.V. WHY YOU DID THIS MAYBE SOME OF US PEOPLE 
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES CAN UNDERSTAND I DONT BELIEVE IN WHAT 
YOU BELIEVE BUT MY LORD SAY"S NOT TO JUDGE NO MATTER WHAT THE 
NEXT PERSON DOES CAUSE EVEN THE DEVIL KNOW"S HIMSELF THEIR IS 
ONLY ONE GOD AND THATS JESUS CHRIST.[ ONLY HE CAN JUDGE] BUT HE 
ALSO PUT A MANS LAW!!!!! WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOU SIR?I DONT 
BELIEVE OR STAND FOR THE  LAW OF WHAT PRESIDENT BUSH PASSED 
ABOUT THE LETHAL INJECTION CAUSE THATS MURDER ALSO WHEN JESUS 
DIED FOR YOU AND ME OSAMAHE WENT THROUGH MORE PAIN THEN WHAT WE 
COULD  EVER EXPERIENCE MORE THAN THOSE INNOCENT PEOPLE YOU BLEW 
UP ON THE AMERICAN FLIGHTS YOU SIT BACK WITH YOUR PEOPLE AND 
PARTIED  LOL IMAGINE THAT!!!!!!!!I WOULD LOVE AND BE PLEASED TO 
JUST MEET YOU FACE TO FACE ONE TIME CAUSE THAT WOULD BE ALL IT 
TOOK MY FRIEND...........................WE WILL REMEMBER THIS 
DAY AND WE WILL  GO FORWARD BY LEAVING YOU BEHIND!!!!!! YOUR 
NOTHING MORE OR LESS THAN WHAT I AM OR ANY ONE ELSE CAN YOU AT 
LEAST SAY WHY ??????????????I"M NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANY ONE LAUGH 
HERE: BUT IF YOU SAY YOU ARE GOD AND YOUR PEOPLE COMMITTED 
SUICIDE  MISSIONS ON OUR FLIGHTS HERE AND STOOD AND BELIEVED IN 
EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND OFFERED IF THEY DIED THEY WOULD GO TO A 
HIGHER HEAVEN FOR AS MANY PEOPLE THEY TOOK WITH THEM OR WOULD 
LIVE THROUGH IT TO WITTNEES THEN WHY DIDN"T AT LEAST ONE LIVE 
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY WENT AND EVERY ONE ELSE TO  YOU CAN 
BULLSHIT THE BAKER BUT YOU CAN"T BULLSHIT THE BULLSHITTER OSAMA 
YOU ARE A SMART MAN I GIVE  YOU THAT MUCH AND THATS ALOT COMING 
FROM AN AMERICAN AND I KNOW THERE IS GOOD IN YOU SO WHY IS THE 
SAME QUESTION? YOU MAY FEEL THERE IS NO FRIEND FOR YOU BUT I AM 
YOUR FRIEND AND JESUS TOO  HE CAN HELP YOU STILL PLEASE DONT 
REFUSE HIM NOW. PLEASE ANSWER ME THANK YOU

From: Osama
To: Above American
Date: Thu Feb 7 23:26:24 2002

Message:
I have many freinds and almighty Allah to guide me. You are too 
Americans are too nice and that makes you easy to kill. HA HA HA 
HA HA HA! And, as you said, I am smart as camal whip, so do not 
patronize me.

From:
To: Me
Subject: You
Date: Fri Feb 8 09:15:24 2002

Message:
Hello what is this page for?

Is it only for sad and demented indevidules or can aneyone join 
in?

From:
To:
Date: Fri Feb 8 09:35:09 2002

Message:
Hello from bin ladin...

you cant find me


               




















































ha ha, 

YOU 
DONT 
KNOW                            
WHERE                       
I AM

From:
To:
Date: Fri Feb 8 09:37:07 2002

Message:
LOOK






AT






THE






BACKGROUND









PICTURE










fANTASTIC

From: bye byebye byebye byebye byebye byebye bye
To: bye byebye byebye byebye byebye byebye byebye byebye bye
Subject: bye bye
Date: Fri Feb 8 09:37:54 2002

Message:
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bye

From:
To:
Date: Fri Feb 8 09:38:41 2002

Message:
tHAT IS ALL

From: me
To: you
Subject: die
Date: Mon Feb 11 03:21:03 2002

Message:
I used to think that we Americans were being taken advantage of 
by the government and the elite, but the more I learn and the 
more information and wisdom I aquire, the more all Americans look 
like cattle who are fat, lethargic, apathetic, and content with 
taking it in the ass with no lube. We elect the idiots who screw 
everything up, even if the do lie to us, they do it blatantly, 
and we all deserve what's coming to us. Die.

From: a muslim
To: all the friendly people of america
Subject: THE TRUTH
Date: Mon Feb 11 08:21:56 2002

Message:
we don't hate you guy's, there could be somebody behind this all 
and it could be the jews because on september 11, 2001(may allah 
bless those americans that died on sept11). I've been watching 
the new's almost every day and you hear them talking about 
muslims did this or did that come on! that's the media it's all 
owned by jews and jews hate muslims. SO i did some 
brainstorming, i thought that maybe it was the jews becasue look 
there wasn't even one jew in the world trade center on the news 
it said 4000-6000 jew did not attend there jobs on sept11.NOW 
YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT THE JEWISH PEOPLE BASICLY OWN 
AMERICA AND THE ONLY REASON WHY THERE ALWAYs INTROBBLE.I'am not 
saying jew's are bad or blame jews, in my religon ISLAM i was 
learned that never ever to comit a crime or do any thing to harm 
anyone it is against my religon it also said that even if you 
have an enemy you have to respect them no matter what. Now Osama 
bin laden gave a very bad reputation for the arabs which is not 
good, just because he did that does not mean that every body 
attacks arab people.i'am a canadian born pakistani and when they 
showed that the people of pakistan were protesting i was shocked 
but guess what that's only %10 of the people that are protesting 
the other %90 is with the pakistani government and the 
USA.pakistan and the united states had close relasionships in 
the past and now there relationship has gotton closer and 
stronger(and take note that pakistan was the first islamic 
country to call bush and asked if they needed help on the war 
against terror. The main thing is that no matter who you are or 
where you came from or what colour of skin you are, everybody in 
the world are brother's and sister's and we are all god's 
creation  


ps: i hove soon america and it's allies will track down osama 
and his leaders and groups and bring them to justice
may ALLAH BLESS THE WHOLE WORLD!

From: Facts Finder
To: a muslim
Subject: hello
Date: Mon Feb 11 20:19:30 2002

Message:
I reply you on your post to the Aghan Goverment regarding the 
bible and Mary's relationship with GOD.

Your recent post, where did you get the news that no Jews died 
on Sept 11, Was it from the Arabs news? Was Osama a Jew? Was the 
19 who died Jew using Arabs name? Come On, each time there is 
such problem created by the radical Muslims they point their 
finger at the Jews and blaming them for causing the Arabs to 
vent their anger on innocent people. Why Bomb America, because 
they did not help you vent your anger. What is the anger all 
about. Religion?

Yes it is good that you know what your religion teaches you, NOT 
TO HATE and respect you enemy too that is what is taught in the 
bible as well. Most important is to learn to forgive and Love.

You do agree that Osama, his network, all radical group, Hamas, 
Hisbollah, Jihad and all the rest are not doing good for Islam. 
You are right as I mention in the other Post, religion are to be 
shown by good example and not by force. Yes I know a lot of good 
muslim like you too. Don't get influence by those radical group 
who call for Jihad knowing that they are on a loosing battle and 
thinking that Allah will come and help them through miracle.

Nice to have muslim like you around. Take care and May Allah 
bless you and your family.

You can find quite a number of my post regarding religion on the 
Afghan goverment post. Have a nice day.

From: Proud God-fearing American Infidel
To: muslim
Subject: The Quran is bullshit
Date: Tue Feb 12 04:12:55 2002

Message:
To the muslim who posted his message on Mon Feb 4 11:03:38 2002 
above, sure, you may brag and spout about how the Quran is 
truthful, but doesn't it say to SLAUGHTER ALL INFIDELS and SPILL 
THEIR BLOOD in the name of your precious "god" allah.  Doesn't 
sound very compassionate now, doesn't it?  At least the 
Christian faith is more compassionate than Islam.  At least we 
forgive, not resort to violence to solve our problems, like sooo 
many islamic fundamentalists do, 9/11 being the most perfect 
example.

And I should forgive you muslims too who hate us and are 
repsonsible for 9/11 and the horrible violations of human life 
and rights brought on by the taliban towards all the innocent, 
oppressed ciizens in Afghanistan and other countries. I want to 
forgive you all to satisfy God and Jesus the Lord, but, shit, 
I'm human.  It's hard to forgive when you feel the pain brough 
on by the aforementioned factions throughout this country, but 
at least I'm trying, which is saying more that the islamic 
fundamentalists, who DON'T FORGIVE AT ALL, instead by killing, 
maiming, mutilating, and hurting all "infidels" as sanctioned 
by "allah"........  

-30-

From: Proud God-fearing American Infidel
To: muslim
Subject: The Quran is bullshit...
Date: Tue Feb 12 04:28:13 2002

Message:
Also, to add to my message above, the reason why people revise 
the Quran, is because they want it to be what they, the muslim 
followers, want it to be.  It's incorrect, immoral revisionist 
history at it's fullest.  They change it so they can make 
their "slaughter of infidels" justifiable.  "Because the Quran 
says so!!", say the islam fundamentalists....

At least the Holy Bible is left alone, sacrosanct.  At least the 
Christians don't change shit so it reflect what they want to 
believe.  They leave it ALONE.  Because it's the good word of 
God, brught down by all the disciples (John, Mark, Peter, 
etc.).  And you ask what relationship there is between Mary and 
God.  Two words:  IMMACULATE CONCEPTION.  Otherwise, there would 
be no Jesus.

So put that in your hookah and smoke it  :) :).

From: Proud God-fearing American Infidel
To: muslim and everyone else
Date: Tue Feb 12 04:36:52 2002

Message:
One last postscript for the above, I do realise there are 
peaceful muslims out there that have different interpretations 
of the Quran, much like Christians have different 
interpretations of the Bible, but the bad apples of islam , 
which I have been talking about (those who "slaughter the 
infidels" and abuse the rights of others) are fucking it up for 
everyone else.  And those bad apples seem like the majority of 
Islam, IMHO.  But I do realize that there are peaceful muslims 
who care for the greiving americans, and much kudos to them.  
But I still feel that the Quran and Islam is inherently flawed, 
in my opinion.

From: cwbweb2002
To: Bullies
Subject: They hate americans
Date: Tue Feb 12 13:39:27 2002

Message:
I believe that one of the family who lives in our community 
is a so-called Bin Laden's advocate.  

they are muslims originated from indonesia or some place like 
malaysia but pretend to be something else.  why?  i guess they 
are trying to hide something... the parents are known to be loners. 
they dont make friends and they are completely assholes!!! 
(its a good thing that we live blocks away from them so that my
kids are not affected by them.) 

the kids from this family are always cursing other young kids 
around the area.  they bully kids (they call them as weaklings) 
and vandalize properties. the kids are always on the street and 
do harm on others but the parents never care to descipline them.  

what really pisses us is this...  rumors from the community that 
they were very glad that the US economy was in gloom and they 
praise for what bin laden's did to us. from what I can say is that 
they are completely sick and psychos.  

should we allow them to continue do this to our fellow americans? 
i guess its time that we should teach them some lessons.

here's the address: 
-------------------
Sergio and Lolita Yap
#51 Berkshire Way, East Brunswick, NJ 08816
Tel. 732-967-9563


From: Fact Finders
To: To all reading
Subject: Dangerous
Date: Tue Feb 12 20:23:27 2002

Message:
Ref to post by CWBWEB2002

Don't be taken in by this person, he probably had problem with 
this neighbour and want the american community to hurt them.

From: Fact Finders
To: To Pround God Fearing Infidel
Subject: Something interesting
Date: Tue Feb 12 20:48:49 2002

Message:
Hi, do you know that the muslim believe that Jesus is the 
Messiah and will come and judge us too. Below is a post I copy 
from another post, I don't know whether you have read it.

There is no doubt in the Muslim mind that Jesus was not crucified
but was taken up, bodily and alive. that he will eventually 
return.
We have it on the attestation of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), who
said under oath, "Just as sure as the sun rises in the East and
sets in the West, Jesus the Messiah will make an appearance at a
time when the world will be embroiled in an unprecedented 
conflict.
When the hour is come everyone will witness his coming".

That Jesus the Messiah will descend at the end time is not in 
doubt.
It is written in the Hadith (sayings ) of the Prophet Muhammed,
(peace be upon him)  what will happen when Jesus returns:

1. He will descend at the white minaret of the Ommaya Mosque on
the East Side of Damascus, wearing two garments of saffron 
colour,
with his hands resting on the wing tips of two angels.
2. He will proceed to the Mosque , it being the time of the 
Friday
prayer
3. He will join the Muslims in prayer, for like all Muslims Jesus
was circumcised, never ate pork and always preformed ablution
before prayer. He will stand in the last row, bow and prostate as
all Muslims do and as he was observed to have done before his
ascension.
4. Following the Friday prayer he will proceed to visit the tomb
of his cousin Yahya, (John the Baptist) who is buried in this
Mosque. He will no doubt offer prayers for his cousin who 
baptized
him in the Jordan River.
5. He will then call upon the believing people. Note the words
(believing people) to join with him in apprehending the Anti-
Christ
who is in Jerusalem. The Anti-Christ being made aware of the 
descent
of Jesus in Damascus will seek to escape from Jerusalem by 
fleeing
to a small village, Lud. Today Lud is the site of the 
International
Airport outside of Tel-Aviv. He will no doubt seek to escape to 
the
United States. 
6. Jesus (pbuh) and his followers will intercept him. Having
confronted the Anti-Christ, with his false identity, claiming to
be the Messiah sent to the Jews. Jesus will expose him as the
Impersonator that he is. His reign as an Impersonator will come
to a dramatic and sudden end.

The Jews having lauded the Anti-Christ as their Messiah and 
having
witnessed his apprehension, will shamefully, after two thousand
years or more admit to Jesus as being the True Messiah Those
among the Jews who refuse to accept Jesus as being the Messiah
will suffer the same fate as the Anti-Christ,

With the apprehension of the Anti-Christ a period of upheaval
will no doubt ensue. This may well be the anticipated 'Battle
of Armageddon on the plains of Esdraelon. The battle will be
between the Believers and the Unbelievers. The believers under
Jesus will be triumphant.

Jesus (pbuh) will then set about to complete his mission. He will
reprove those among his followers who have exalted him, a 
Messenger
and Servant of God, to the status of God. He will also destroy 
the
Myth of the Cross, that portrays him as having been crucified.

The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is reported to have said, "Life of
plentifulness will be beyond words after Jesus descension. The
sky will be directed to pour down rain and the earth to furnish
her fruit until a seed will be able to take root on a stone.
Peace and comfort will prevail to the extent that a lion will
pass by a human without causing the least injury. Malice and
ill-will will be unknown.


From: Facts Finders
To: Proud God Fearing Infidel
Subject: My reply
Date: Tue Feb 12 20:53:51 2002

Message:
And this was my reply

 So I noticed what is said in the Bible and the Quran about 
Jesus are quite similar except that you think that through years 
the bible, has been corrupted by Isreal and some of the text has 
been change to favour Isreal.
So Jesus is the most powerful prophet of all time. You agree? He 
was born by a command BE given to Mother Mary through an angel 
of GOD, No other prophet was born this way. Agree? All was 
conceived by marriages of two human being. Right? So he is not 
ordinary prophet it is GOD HIMSELF revealing to us in the form 
of human and was conceived from a virgin and he is call the 
Messiah and he will come and give judgement on the last day.
As you say, that the Bible might be corrupted by Isreal, this 
goes the same way as the Quran. Who knows 632 years after Jesus 
a new teaching (Islam) was born through the teaching of Mohammed 
but was it all from him? or was it corrupted by human too.
Even in Christianity and Islam these days there so many division 
in it teaching all these are because of WE, human disagreement 
with each other view but most important as I mention many times 
it is ourselves by our example, by our love, by our 
understanding, by our patience, by our forgiveness that the 
teaching of GOD reveal himself.
If I am a Muslim and I follow all the can and cannot the Quran 
required me to do but I do not care for others especially the 
non believers. You think as you say when Jesus (in Quran) as you 
mention will accept me or will he accept a Christian who has be 
worshipping him and doing all the good things including fogiving 
his enemy and the non believers?
 It is for us to show the non believers that there is a GOD who 
loves us and through our behavior not by our force to guide them 
with patience and love not by threaten and murder.
Come back to your comment. Even if the Holy Bible is corrupted 
as you say. It doesn't teach you to kill, commit suicide, 
revenge, or calling the non believers names, (in Indonesia an 
Imam call the non muslims worse than animals, he is now under 
investigation for his link to al queda..) In Christianity these 
Non believers are call the lost sheep and the shepherd will find 
ways to look for them patiencely before the wolf get to them.
So as I say you found your GOD through Mohammed (Islam), I found 
mine through Jesus Christ (Christianity). Let us all pray  
together to GOD that he will bring Justice to world and Good 
rule over evil. Let his power shine on all those who teaches 
loves to bring peace and stabality to the world and may his 
teaching enlighten us all with knowledge of love, care, share, 
understanding, forgiveness so that we may show to our family, 
friends, neigbour and people around the world including the non 
believers what it means and what we can gain from it.
May God bless you and your love ones.

From: A SISTER THAT ONLY FEARS ALLAH NOT YOU KUFFAR
To: ALL YOU IGNORENT KUFFARS
Date: Wed Feb 13 06:17:16 2002

Message:
WELL JUST LET ME START BY SAYING YOU FOOLS REALLY MAKE ME LAUGH 
YOU ALL SIT THERE AND RUN YOUR MOUTHS OFF SAYING THAT US MUSLIMS 
ARE FULL OF HATE AND EVIL BUT HAVE YOU REALLY ALL JUST STOPED 
AND HAD ALOOK AT YOURSELVES THE GUY THAT CALLS HIMSELF YOUR 
WORST MIGHTMARE YOU ARE A FOOL AND YOU REALLY DID GIVE ME A GOOD 
LAUGH IF HAMUS EVER CAUGHT A HOLD OF YOU DO YOU REALLY THINK 
THAT YOU WOULD KICK THERE ASSES LOL YOU ARE A IGNORENT FOOL AND 
AS FOR ALL OF YOU THAT KEEP USING WORDS LIKE RAG HEADS THERE IS 
A NAME FOR WHAT WE WEAR AND THAT IS A HIJAB AND IT IS TO KEEP 
THE EYES OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU AWAY FROM US AT LEAST WE HAVE 
RESPECT IN OURSELVES NOT LIKE THE WOMEN THAT ARE RAISED IN YOUR 
SOCIETY NOTHING BUT TRAMPS AND DRUG ATICS YOU TALK OFF AMERICA 
LIKE ITS SOME SOUGHT OF INVINCIBLE LAND WHEN ALL I CAN SEE IS 
THAT ITS FULL OF VIOLENCE ISLAM WILL NEVER SURRENDER TO YOUR MAN 
MADE SYSTEMS AND ISLAM WILL NEVER SURRENDER TO YOU KUFFAR YOU 
ALL TALK OF ISLAM BEING SO EVIL HAVE YOU ALL STOPED AND LOOKED 
AT HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE CONVERT TO ISLAM WE ARE ONLY 
GROWING STRONGER YOU FOOLS IF ANYTHING THE COUNTRY THAT IS THE 
BIGGEST TERRORISTS ITS AMERICA YOU ARE NOT INNOCENT VICTIMS LIKE 
YOU CLAIM TO BE YOU ARE WORSE THAN DOGS I HAVE PHOTOS OF WHAT 
YOUR AMERICAN SOLDIERS ARE DOING TO OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN 
AFGANISTAN YOU ARE ANIMALS AND YOU WILL PAY IF NOT HERE IN THE 
HEREAFTER YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE THAT. AS FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR 
TOWERS NOW YOU KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO LOOSE YOUR BROTHERS 
AND SISTERS ITS NOT NICE IS IT OVER 9000 MUSLIMS WHERE SLAUGHTED 
IN BOSNIA AND KOSOVO BUT NO ONE GAVE A DAM ABOUT THEN DID THEY 
MOST OF THE WOMEN THAT WHERE LEFT ARE STILL SEARCHING FOR 
REMAINS JUST SO THAT THEY CAN BURY THERE HUSBANDS OF SONS OR 
BOTH BUT KNOW THERE WAS NO CRYS FOR THEM WHY BECAUSE THEY WHERE 
MUSLIM OR WHAT ABOUT THE 3 PALESTINIAN BOYS THAT WHERE KIDNAPPED 
BY JEWS AND TORTUED AND THEN KILLED AND HAD THERE ORGANS REMOVED 
SO THAT THE JEWS COULD SELL THEM I HAVE PHOTOS OFF THAT TO LOL 
YOU AMERICANS THINK THAT THE JEWS WANT TO HELP YOU AND SUPPORT 
YOU WHEN IN ACTUALL FACT THE JEWS HATE YOU THEY HATE EVERYONE 
AND IF YOU BELEIVE THIS OR NOT YOUR OWN AMERICAN GOVERNMENT 
DOSENT EVEN CARE ABOUT YOU AS YOUR PRESIDENT BUSH SAIS YOU ARE 
ALL JUST CATTLE LOST SHEEP LOL THATS ALL YOU ARE TO HIM YOUR 
PRESIDENT IS FREEMASON ALL HE GIVES A DAM ABOUT IS HIS NEW WORLD 
ORDER YOU AMERICANS ARE SO BLIND ITS RIGHT UNDER YOUR OWN NOSES 
AND YET YOU ARE TO BLIND AND IGNORENT TO SEE OR JUST ACCEPTING 
OF IT ONE OR THE OTHER ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT YOUR ONE 
DOLLAR BILL WHEN YOU FOLLOW BUSH YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE DAJJAL 
FOR GOODNISS SAKE EVERYTIME YOU LOOK AT YOUR ONE DOLLAR BILL 
DONT YOU SEE THE ONE EYE LOL YOU PEOPLE NEED TO STOP FALLING 
UNDER THE BRAINWASHING OFF YOUR GOVERNMENT AND GO SEARCH FOR THE 
TRUTH IF YOU PEOPLE DONT BELEIVE WHAT I SAY SEARCH AND LOOK FOR 
YOUR SELVES IF NOT THEN INSHA ALLAH YOU WILL BE SAVED BUT IF YOU 
FOLLOW THE SHAYTAN WELL THEN YOU BELONG WITH THE SHAYTAN.

From:
To:
Date: Wed Feb 13 14:37:26 2002

Message:
Pakistan vs India, head to head                                  
 India leads 41 to 4                                             
  last meeting India 17-to-4                                     
 all culinary activities won by India                            
 Pakistan women winning for garb styling methodry 
1812-1824-1914-1968-1972                                         
                               

From: THE ANTI-FASCIST WHO WILL NEVER DIE
To: "A SISTER THAT ONLY FEARS ALLAH NOT YOU KUFFAR "
Subject: YOUR IGNORANT FILTH
Date: Wed Feb 13 22:38:12 2002

Message:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HATE-FILLED POST.  YOU CLEARLY REVEAL THE 
FASCIST INNER SOUL OF ISLAM.  YOU REVEAL ITS HYPOCRISY AND 
COWARDICE AS WELL.  YOU WRITE ABOUT 9000 MUSLIMS SLAUGHTERED IN 
BOSNIA AND KOSOVO AND SAY THAT NO ONE GAVE A DAMN.  REMEMBER 
THAT IT WAS PRIMARILY THE AMERICANS WHO FOUGHT TO END 
THE "ETHNIC CLEANSING" AND REMOVE MILOSEVIC FROM POWER.  WHERE 
WERE YOUR "HEROIC ARAB BROTHERS"???  WHERE WERE THE TROOPS FROM 
SAUDI ARABIA, IRAQ, IRAN, SYRIA, PALESTINE, ETC. ETC.???  WHERE 
WERE THE FILTHY COWARDS WHEN WE DID THE FIGHTING FOR YOU???  OUR 
STUPID MISTAKE -- GIVEN YOUR "APPRECIATION" BY HAVING YOUR 
FILTHY COWARD BROTHERS MURDER INNOCENT CIVILIANS, WE SHOULD HAVE 
HELPED MILOSEVIC, RATHER THAN OUST HIM!  NOW WE KNOW, AND WE 
WILL FIGHT AGAINST YOUR ISLAMO-FASCISM TO THE LAST BREATH (WHICH 
REALLY WON'T BE NECESSARY SINCE YOU ONLY EXCEL AT MURDERING 
HELPLESS PEOPLE ANYWAY).  WE CRUSHED THE NAZIS, AND WE WILL 
CRUSH YOU FOR BREAKFAST!!!!!!!!!!

From:
To:
Date: Thu Feb 14 02:48:46 2002

Message:
ANOTHER POINT: YOU WRITE ABOUT HOW QUICKLY ISLAM IS GROWING IN 
THE WEST.  THE ONLY REASON IS THAT STUPID WESTERN LIBERAL 
DEMOCRACIES KEEP LETTING YOU IMMIGRATE FROM YOUR SHIT 
COUNTRIES.  WHY DON'T YOU STAY THE HELL IN YOUR ARAB 
COUNTRIES???  THEN YOU COULD BE GASSED (LIKE THE IRAQIS DID TO 
THE IRANIANS AND THE KURDS); MASSACRED (LIKE THE TURKS DID TO 
THE ARMENIANS); AND LOOTED (LIKE THE IRAQIS DID TO 
KUWAIT).  "SISTERS" LIKE YOU IN AFGHANISTAN COULD BE SHOT IN THE 
HEAD IN SOCCER STADIUMS BECAUSE OF YOUR WHORE-LIKE BEHAVIOR -- 
GOING OUT ALONE IN PUBLIC WITHOUT MALE ESCORTS, EVEN THOUGH 
YOU'RE DRESSED IN A POTATO SACK FROM HEAD TO TOE.  THE FACT IS, 
I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK WHAT DISGUSTING, BRUTAL, AND BARBARIC 
ACTS YOU COMMIT AGAINST EACH OTHER.  JUST STAY IN YOUR SHIT 
COUNTRIES AND DO IT THERE!!!!!  MARK MY WORDS: IF ONE MORE 
TERRORIST ACT HAPPENS IN AMERICA, WE WILL GET ALL OF YOU THE 
HELL OUT OF HERE!!!  THAT'S WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT BUSH: HE 
DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT LEFTIST ASSHOLES IN EUROPE AND THE 
MIDDLE EAST THINK ABOUT "HUMAN RIGHTS" IN AMERICA!!!!!

From: SISTER THAT ONLY FOLLOWS ISLAM
To: THE FOOL THAT THINKS HE WILL NEVER DIE
Date: Thu Feb 14 03:07:32 2002

Message:
WELL ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE MADE ME LAUGH YOU WILL EAT US FOR 
BREAKFAST THAT IS REALLY FUNNY I TOLD YOU BEFORE ISLAM IS ONLY 
GROWING STRONGER THERE ARE MORE AND MORE TURNING TO ISLAM 
EVERDAY EVEN YOUR OWN PEOPLE ARE TURNING TO ISLAM ISNT THAT 
TELLING YOU SOMETHING THE ONLY PEOPLE I SEE HATING IS AMERICA 
YOU ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FULL OF IT AND YOU HAVE BEEN FOR 
MANY YEARS NOT ONLY AGAINST US BUT TOWARDS BLACKS INDIANS 
HISPANICS BASICALLY ANYONE WHO WASNT YOUR AVERAGE WHITE AMERICAN 
AND YOU CANNOT DENIY THAT. ISLAM IS NOT ABOUT HATE BUT WHEN IT 
COMES TO DEFENDING THEN WE I WILL DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES DO YOU 
REALLY THINK I WOULD SIT BACK AND LET YOU PEOPLE DISRESPECT MY 
RELIGION LIKE THAT NO I DONT THINK SO I WILL DO WHAT EVER IT 
TAKES TO STAND AND FIGHT FOR THE UMMAH YOU KUFFAR NEED TO WAKE 
UP AND RELISE YOU CAN SAY AND DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT BUT WE DO 
NOT FEAR YOU WE ONLY FEAR ALLAH AND THE MORE YOU TRY TO KILL US 
AND GET RID OF US THE STRONGER ISLAM WILL COME BACK YOU CANNOT 
STOP THE WILL OF ALLAH (ALLAH U AKBAR).

From: A SWEET LIL ANGEL'S DYING WISHES
To: THE ARROGANT BASTARD THAT TRIES TO BE SUPER MAN
Date: Thu Feb 14 05:09:02 2002

Message:
crushed the natzi's gonna crush us" ohhhh seems like u got it 
the wrong way around....quote"murdering helpless ppl"...us no 
THAT WOULD BE U! look what ur doing to Afghanistan or is ur 
vision blurred by all the bombs ur dropping.Ripping up a country 
that is already a 3rd world.And all of this for one man... how 
much pleasure do u cowards get in ruining other ppls lives. THAT 
IS UTTER EVIL and u can't deny it. ooh, REVENGE is that what u 
think it is a form of revenge?u don't even know who ur chasing 
after.. so u decide to blame the whole of Islam.Macho America we 
sympathise with u for all the innocent ppl u lost. IT IS A PITTY 
that u didn't get rid off the arrogant instead. OHHH U THINK 
THAT WE DID IT,us the W-H-O-L-E M-U-S-L-I-M P-O-P-U-L-A-T-I-O-
N...ERRRRRRRR WRONG! another exaggeration of an inhumane persons 
thinking. They were TERRORISTS and we are not. BUT SOME PPL ARE 
TO DAFT TO REALISE the difference.sorry to disappoint u... but 
Muslims live all around the world, NOT JUST IN ARABIA. u messing 
with us.. u mess with the whole world. and if u think that 
blowing up countries is gonna find a solution... y not just blow 
up the whole world...chances are that ur world will blow up 
right BACK in ur face.... PEACE! OH YEAH ENJOY UR BREAKY, THE 
ONLY THING U'LL BE EATING IS UR OWN FLESH ON THE DAY OF 
JUDGEMENT!

From: WORTHY SOLDIER
To: TO SUPER MAN
Subject: THE ODDS ARE AGIANST YOU
Date: Thu Feb 14 06:24:19 2002

Message:
WAKE UP YOU IDIOT,I MEAN,WERE DE FUCK WERE YOU BORN,IT DOESNT 
TAKE A FUCK WIT 3 SECOUNDS TO RELISE THE ODDS ARE AGAINST 
YOU,THERE ARE OVER 50 NATIONS OF ISLAM,SO WHERE THE FUCK YOU 
GONNA HIDE WHEN WE UNITE AN START BOMBING YOUR POOR ASS COUNTRY 
FULL HOES AN FAGGETS LIKE YOU.HOW MANY BROTHERS AN SISTERS ARE 
SPREAD AROUND YOUR COUNTRY,AN IN AUSTRALIA,ENGLAND AN ALL THE 
OTHER WESTERN COUNTRYS,WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WHEN THEY TURN ON 
YOU,BOMB YOUR OWN COUNTRY,YOU PPL REALY DONT HAVE A FUCKEN CLUE 
WERE THIS IS HEADING,BUT EITHER WAY IF WE LIVE OR DIE,WE DONT 
REALY CARE ABOUT THIS WORLD,WE DONT EVEN CARE IF WE DIE,WE LIVE 
AN BREATH ISLAM AN WITH OUT ISLAM WE ARE NOTHING,SO KEEP TRYING 
TO CROSS THE PATH OF UMMAH AN YOU WILL FEAL THE FULL STRENGTH OF 
ISLAM HEAD ON............ALLAHU AKBAR IM READY TO DIE FOR ALLAH 
ARE YOU READY TO DIE FOR YOUR MAN MADE SYSTEM...LOL.......

From: angel
To: people
Subject: peace
Date: Mon Feb 18 05:41:23 2002

Message:
hello.why is the everybody telling about war?what about  peace!!!
why don't you want to agree each?don't you believe 
same ''god''.is he ordering war or peace?you are living on the 
same earth.do you think that you are host in earth???
   the religions may be different but '' god '' is same.just you 
think about this earth, what about onether?   

From: moehamad atta
To: u
Subject: im not dead
Date: Mon Feb 18 19:52:08 2002

Message:
im not dead yet im still in line to see the devilim 
number762,243,334,656,322,776,21 and there on number 
111,324,221,04 so if theres anything i could do to say sorry, 
please ahhhhhhhhh! ahhhhhhh!  shit, hot lava my  laptop is 
melllllllllttttttiiiiiiiinnnngggggggggg!

From: fghfghfgh
To: hgfghhfhf
Subject: fghfgh
Date: Mon Feb 18 20:01:05 2002

Message:
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them rest in peace ITs OVER !you keep reminding us by by making 
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fucking site off get on with your life you felithy basterd tet 
them rest in peace ITs OVER !you keep reminding us by by making 
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From: Disgusted
To: all
Date: Wed Feb 20 12:21:09 2002

Message:
Get a life

From: DEATH TO ISLAM
To: A SISTER THAT ONLY FEARS ALLAH NOT YOU KUFFAR
Subject: EAT SHIT AND DIE
Date: Fri Feb 22 08:37:08 2002

Message:
YOU FILTHY FUCKING WHORE
PRODUCT OF PIG ANUS
EATER OF DOG SHIT

From: ISLAM IS FILTH
To: A SISTER THAT ONLY FEARS ALLAH NOT YOU KUFFAR
Subject: You stupid piece of shit
Date: Fri Feb 22 19:13:32 2002

Message:
A SISTER THAT ONLY FEARS 
ALLAH NOT YOU KUFFAR

You gonna suck Allah's cock in hell, 
you fucking whore, filthy degenerate 
slut pig, maggot harlot. 

Keep it up, fucking Islamic fags & 
pigs. You'll soon get a taste of 
nuclear fire, as millions of Islam 
neanderthals are ushered to Hell to 
suck the great prophet's cock. We 
will burn you maggots off the face of 
the earth.

From: SISTER THAT ONLY FEARS ALLAH
To: THE KUFFAR WITH THE BIG MOUTH
Date: Sat Feb 23 06:44:38 2002

Message:
WELL ONCE AGAIN YOU KUFFAR HAVE REALLY SHOWN YOUR HATE YOU 
REALLY SHOULD NOT BE SAYING THAT WE ARE FILTH BY WHAT YOU HAVE 
WRITTEN THE ONLY FILTH HERE IS YOU I REALLY HOPE FOR WHAT YOU 
HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT ALLAH AND OUR PROFIT (PBUH)YOUR TOUNGE FALLS 
OUT OF YOUR HEAD BUT THATS NOT FOR ME TO DECIDE IS IT AFTER ALL 
WHEN YOU DIE YOU WONT ANSWER TO ME YOU WILL ONLY ANSWER TO ALLAH 
AND YOU CAN SAY AND BELEIVE WHAT EVER YOU WANT YOU FOOL BUT NO 
MATTER WHAT YOU CANNOT ESCAPE THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT LOOOOOOOOOL 
AND AS FOR BURNING US OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH THAT WILL NEVER 
HAPPEN THE ONLY PEOPLE I SEE THAT WILL BE BURNING ARE THE PEOPLE 
THAT TURN THERE BACK ON ALLAH AND INSTEAD FOLLOW THE SHEYTAN SO 
LIKE I SAID IN MY LAST MESSAGE I DO NOT FEAR YOU I ONLY FEAR 
ALLAH SO YOU CAN SAY AND DO WHAT EVER YOU PLEASE YOU DO NOT 
BOTHER ME ONE BIT ALL I SEE IS SOME SICK RUDE MOUTH PERSON THAT 
HAS NO RESPECT FOR NO BODY PROBABLY NOT EVEN THEM SELF SO GO AND 
DO SOMETHING USEFUL AND TRY CLEAN YOUR HEART I REALLY HOPE YOU 
FIND THE TRUE PATH BEFORE IT IS TO LATE.

From:
To:
Date: Sat Feb 23 07:04:35 2002

Message:
Welcome all of you to the aghan-goverment board the first one 
with the most post everday.

From: WORTHY SOLDIER
To: ALL MY BROTHERS AN SISTERS
Subject: BROTHERS AN SISTERS
Date: Sat Feb 23 07:05:50 2002

Message:
http://communities.msn.com/SOLDIERSOFALLAH/_whatsnew.msnw

PLEASE JOIN THE SITE,KAFFIR UNLESS YOU ARE THINKING OF 
CONVERTING AN CHANGING YOUR WAY OF LIFE,DONT EVEN BOTHER JOINING 
THIS SITE,BUT IF YOU WANT TO COME IN A SEE WHO REALY IS LEADING 
YOUR HELL BOUND COUNTRY,FEEL FREE TO JOIN

SATY STRONG BROTHERS AN SISTERS THE END IS NEAR

From: CALL 4 JIHAD
To: SISTER THAT ONLY FEARS ALLAH
Date: Sat Feb 23 07:23:27 2002

Message:
SISTER,SISTER,SISTER WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON A SITE LIKE THIS,YOU 
SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT LINE LOOKING AFTER OUR WOUNDED,THESE 
KAFFIRS HAVE GOT NOTHING GOOD TO GIVE YOU,YOU ALREADY KNOW THE 
TRUTH,ALL THEY HAVE TO GIVE TO YOU IS THERE FOUL MOUTH,BUT I 
GUESS YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT BECUASE YOU SEE THE TRUTH

KAFFIR,KAFFIR,KAFFIR IS THAT ALL YOU GOT TO SAY F--- THIS AN F---
 THAT YOU PIG,I GUESS IT TRUE WHAT THEY SAY YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT 
ONK ONK ONK,

WORTHY,WORTHY,WORTHY TAKE IT EASY BRO THESE KAFFIRS AINT WORTH 
YOU GETTING SO UPSET OVER,YOU ALSO KNOW THE TRUTH,HAY 
KAFFIR,AAAHHHH HE IS RIGHT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN WE 
UNITE HIDE UNDER YOUR BED LOL,,,

HMMMMMMMMMMMMM   I GUESS YOU AMERICANS ARE JUST WEAK AN NEED A 
MAN TO LEAD YOUR LIFE,I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMARTER THEN THAT,YOU 
SHOULD OF PICKED A BETTER LEADER,THE ONE YOU ARE FOLLOWING IS A 
MASON,AN 33RD DEGREE MASON.AN LAST TIME I CHECKED MASONS FOLLOW 
A SYMBOL WITH THE 1 EYE,AN THE ONE EYE IS UUMMMMMM I GUESS THE 
DEVIL,BUT YOUR HEADS TO THICK TO RELISE THAT,WAKE UP TIME.
BUT I GUESS YOU ARE AL WAITING FOR HIM TO GROW SOME HORNS OR 
SOMTHING RIGHT,WHAT A BUNCH OFF DEAD BEATS,THE SHOES I WALK ON 
HAVE GOT MORE BRAINS THEN YOU..........

From: the devil
To: all my followers
Date: Sat Feb 23 07:38:10 2002

Message:
thank you i love you so much
you showed me that i was right
i fooled you all
so please keep going
dont stop now
the flames are getting higher
it will be ready for you soon
then we can be together forever
burning side by side
an all the muslims can watch
far up in heavens sky
but dont worry my followers
its nice an warm here
an wont matter how much you scream
the pain will never disapear
we will sing an dance
the way you did when you were alive
the only difference will be
you will be dancing to put out the flames
an you can curse all you like here
becuase here we dont like prays
only screams of burning bodys
but please dont be afraid
keep following the road you follow
you only make me stronger
praying 5 times a day
please dont even bother
just keep on drinking,partying an back bitting
an fighting wars to gain your wealth
dont worry about heavens gates
enjoy your life on earth

i will see you soon


From: open mind/closed fist
To: Muslim posters
Date: Sat Feb 23 10:24:45 2002

Message:
Remember, you are supposed to be representing a PEACEFULL 
religion. You make it sound VIOLENT and IGNORANT and BACKWARD. 
Guess your just spouting bullshit and dont really care how Islam 
is looked upon by the rest of the world?

From: LOVE FOR ISLAM,STAND BY ISLAM,DIE FOR ISLAM
To: OPEN MIND/CLOSED FIST
Date: Sat Feb 23 17:20:39 2002

Message:
WELL BY ALL MEANS IF YOU CAN HANDLE PEOPLE TALKING OF ALLAH AND 
OUR PROFIT(PBUH)IN THESE WAYS THEN THATS GOOD FOR YOU BUT 
UNFORTUNATLEY I CANNOT I AM NOT SHOWING ISLAM TO BE A BAD WAY NO 
MATTER WHAT THE IGNORENT PEOPLE THAT HATE US MUSLIMS WILL ALWAYS 
LOOK ON AS AS BACKWARD AND VIOLENT AND OPPRESSED SO REALLY THAT 
IS THERE PROBLEM NOT MINE BUT I AM NOT ABOUT TO SIT BACK AND NOT 
DEFEND WHAT I LIVE AND BREATH FOR AND IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND 
THAT THEN THATS ON YOUR HEAD ISLAM IS A PEACEFUL RELIGION AND 
ALWAYS WILL BE BUT WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO DO AND SAY THINGS ABOUT MY 
BELEIFS I WILL DEFEND IT TO MY DEATH NO MATTER WHAT SO DONT SIT 
THERE AND SAY IM SPOUTING BULLSHIT IF YOU REALLY ARE A MUSLIM 
THEN INSTEAD OF GOING AGAINST US YOUR MUSLIM BROTHERS AND 
SISTERS STAND AND UNITE WITH US DONT PUT SMILES ON THE KUFFARS 
FACES BY GOING AGAINST US REMEMBER THIS BECAUSE WHEN  IT COMES 
DOWN TO IT ONE DAY WHEN YOU WILL NEED YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS 
WE WILL BE THERE NOT THE KUFFAR TO HELP YOU SO PLEASE DONT MAKE 
US MUSLIMS OUT TO BE THE ENEMY.

From:
To:
Date: Sat Feb 23 17:20:39 2002

Message:
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From: American
To: All Islam Vermin
Subject: Keep it up, assholes
Date: Sat Feb 23 18:06:18 2002

Message:
Osama bin Laden, that piece of dog 
shit with buck teeth, is dead. The 
maggot died of massive brain and 
nerve damage from an American 
bomb in early January, and is now 
sucking cock in Hell.

Let that be a lesson to you filthy 
fucking Islamic faggots and whores: 
You dare pull shit like September 
11th again and you will taste 
American nuclear hellfire - we will 
burn millions of you maggots off the 
face of the earth.

From: open mind/closed fist
To: Love for Islam
Date: Sat Feb 23 17:45:03 2002

Message:
I am not a Muslim or a Christian. I believe in God, whatever 
name he goes by, in my own way. As many thinking U.S. citizens 
have, I've tried to get a better understanding of Islam and its 
connection to the 09/11/01 attacks. Obviously most Muslims dont 
agree with barbaric terrorist attacks, but yet I dont hear a 
clear outcry denouncing such behavior.
 You seem very commited to your religion but also willing to 
share your views. I would be interested in hearing your views on 
the subject of the Daniel Pearl kidnapping and video tapped 
murder and beheading.
 He was only one man, and criminal murders happen in the U.S. 
and around the world on a daily basis. But it struck me as 
ironic that he was kidnapped on his way to give a Muslim 
extremist a chance to tell the world his story, then was killed 
and mutilated by Muslim extremists.
 Anyway, if you respond to the question above please be civil, 
as I have tried to be.

From: American
To: SISTER THAT ONLY FEARS ALLAH
Subject: Sistah Suckjob
Date: Sat Feb 23 18:10:23 2002

Message:
You filthy fucking pigs want to be 
martyrs? Line up and take a number, 
we'll accommodate you. You'll be 
first in line to suck OBL's diseased 
prick.

From: American
To: SISTER THAT ONLY FEARS ALLAH
Subject: You'll be munching shit in Hell soon
Date: Sat Feb 23 18:33:06 2002

Message:
We got nukes and all you primitive 
whores and faggots can do is throw 
rocks. Throw a rock (like Palestinian 
faggots) at an armed man and you 
get your brains blown out. Wow! You 
Islamic pieces of shit are STUPID! 
Allah didn't give you vermin brains. 
Good to see you learned to type ALL 
CAPS, you pig slut whore. That may 
get you a job someday.

Nukes are on the way, pig bitch.

From: SISTER THAT LAUGHS AT YOUR BIG MOUTH MR BIG MAN AMERICAN LOOOOOOOOL
To: OPEN MIND/CLOSED FIST
Date: Sat Feb 23 19:22:07 2002

Message:
WELL NO MATTER WHAT IN THIS WORLD THERE WILL ALWAYS BE KILLING 
WE CANOT STOP THAT BUT IT IS NO GOOD YOU TRYING TO TARGET AND 
POINT YOUR FINGER AND TRY SHOW OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT MAN AND 
TRY MAKE THE REST OF US LOOK BAD BECAUSE IF THATS THE CASE I CAN 
SIT HERE AND TYPE SO MUCH STUFF OF WHAT YOU PEOPLE DO TO MINE 
LIKE SHOOTING A MUSLIM SISTER IN THE FACE BECAUSE SHE WEARS A 
HIJAB AND MIND YOU SHE WAS SHOT IN THE FACE WHILE CARRYING HER 
YOUNG CHILD IN HER ARMS THERE IS BAD IN EVERY RELIGION JUST LIKE 
THERE IS BAD IN EVERY RACE SO JUST BECAUSE ONE MUSLIM DOES 
SOMETHING WRONG DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE ALL BAD I MEAN YOU HAVE 
PRIESTS RAPING YOUR CHILDREN BUT DOES NOT MEAN ALL PRIESTS ARE 
BAD SO DONT KEEP TRYING TO STATE OUT ALL BAD THINGS BECAUSE ITS 
A LOAD OF CRAP WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO AND AS FOR THIS BIG 
TUFF AMERICAN GUY THAT HAS SUCH A BIG MOUTH ALL YOU ARE DOING IS 
SHOWING ME THAT YOU HAVE A BIG MOUTH AND NO BRAINS YOU ARE THE 
SOUGHT OF PEOPLE YOUR SATANIC LEADER LOVES BECAUSE HE CAN 
MANIPULATE YOU JUST THE WAY HE WANTS AND YOU DUMB ASS JUST FALLS 
FOR IT SO INSTEAD OFF BEING A JACKASS GO GET A LIFE INSTEAD OR 
BETTER STILL GO READ AND LEARN AND EDUCATE YOUR SELF ON WHAT IS 
REALLY GOING ON.

From: Facts Finder
To: Sister who only fear Allah
Date: Sat Feb 23 19:42:22 2002

Message:
I have been reading your many posts and believe you fear Allah. 
We are not pointin our fingers at all muslims but those 
extremists as Om/cf have put it very clear. I have been with 
these site on another board for the last 3 months and have read 
some very interesting post about Islam and have also replied.

Yes, have faith in your belief(religion), keep love, peace, 
forgiveness, repect for others not hate war, revenge and 
disrepect for other race and religion in your heart Lead by good 
example. As I say many times these extremists is not doing any 
good to Islam but damaging the name of Islam.

I don't know whether you have gone to other board too. There are 
many interesting post about religion. I can copy and paste it to 
you at this post if you want.

Take care may your GOD(Allah)shine his blessing on you.

From: Facts Finder
To: Sister who fear Allah
Date: Sat Feb 23 20:15:23 2002

Message:
Regarding the shooting of a lady in the face while she is 
carrying a baby. Where did you get that information. Do you have 
an article reported on that matter?

I thought only the Taliban do that to their ladies.

From: Sami
To: the asshole who was talking about bin laden
Subject: stop tryin' to be a smat ass!!
Date: Sat Feb 23 19:49:50 2002

Message:
Hey fucker ..! 1st remember one thing..(jews)who did it 
because they hate arabs and bush works with 'em fuckin' piece of 
shit.Muslim doesnt kill any innecont one that's what god (allah) 
says.but..wait who the heck do you think you are ??calling your 
seleves american??you're just a bunch of killers!!you killed 
lots of people in Japan and you support Israel to kill more and 
more from the Palastinian people just remeber who you are then 
blame us for 2 plans have destroyed above your head.lol i'm 
really sorry abot that. any way ..USA=Israel .so USA government 
sucks but people are nice.bush is a mother fucker by the way he 
sucks hores dick in his fuckin' white evil house LOL "god bless 
the all"

From: open mind/closed fist
To: Sister who fears
Date: Sat Feb 23 20:33:31 2002

Message:
I asked for your honest response to one question and in a civil 
manner. I recieved niether. Ya, Muslims are repressed. So 
repressed they repress their own selves.
 All you are showing me is how Muslims cant be talked to in a 
reasonable way. You can tell me how to run my life, but you 
cannot answer a simple question for fear of stepping out of line 
with your religion.

From: SISTER SOLDIER TILL DEATH
To: OPEN MIND/CLOSED FIST AND FACTS FINDER
Date: Sun Feb 24 06:22:15 2002

Message:
I TOLD YOU EXACTLY HOW IT IS OPEN MIND AND NOW YOU HAVE COME UP 
WITH SOME DIFFERENT CRAP NOW WHATS THIS IM NOW FEARING OF 
STEPPING OUT OF LINE WITH MY RELIGION YOU ARE TALKING NOTHING 
BUT RUBBISH AND AS FOR YOU FACTS FINDER THE SISTER THAT WAS SHOT 
IN THE FACE WAS ACTUALLY A FULL BORN AMERICAN LADY THAT HAD 
CONVERTED TO ISLAM AS FOR ME KNOWING ABOUT IT I KNOW BECAUSE A 
MUSLIM SISTER OF MINE LIVED UP IN SOME FLATS NEAR BY WHERE IT 
HAPPENED AND AS FOR IT BEING IN NEWSPAPERS OR SOMETHING I REALLY 
DONT KNOW BUT I REALLY DOUBT IT YOUR MEDIA ONLY SHOWS WHAT THEY 
WANT TO SHOW AND I REALLY LAUGH HOW ONCE AGAIN YOU JUST HAVE TO 
BRING UP THE TALIBAN BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU REALLY ARE AN 
IGNORENT FOOL YOU KNOW HOW MANY CHRISTIANS I KNOW THAT BEAT 
THERE WIVES BLACK AND BLUE BECAUSE THERE NOTHING BUT ALCHOHOLICS 
AND DRUG ATHICS SEE THATS WHY I LAUGH AT YOU ALL WHY IS IT 
BECAUSE WE FOLLOW AND RESPECT OUR HUSBANDS WE ARE SUCH BAD 
PEOPLE WHY IS IT A NUN CAN COVER HER SELF FROM TOP TO BOTTOM AND 
PEOPLE SAY OH LOOK SHES PRACTISEING HER RELIGION BUT WHEN A 
MUSLIMAH COVERS THEY ARE BEING OPPRESSED OR HOW IS IT THAT A JEW 
CAN GROW HIS BEARD AND IT IS SAID HE IS FOLLOWING HIS RELIGIOUS 
BELEIFE BUT WHEN A MUSLIM MAN GROWS ONE HE IS AN EXTREMIST WHY 
IS IT THAT WHEN TIMOTHY MCVEIGH BLEW UP THE BUILDING IN OKLAHOMA 
YOU DID NOT ALL LABEL HIM A CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST YOU KNOW WHY 
BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR CHANCE TO START WITH 
US MUSLIMS AND WHAT HAPPENED ON SEP 11TH JUST GAVE YOU ALL AN 
EXCUSE TO START BUT I WILL TELL YOU ALL SOMETHING NOW I WOULD 
RATHER HAVE MY FLESH CUT FROM ME WITH A KNIFE THAN BOW DOWN AND 
SURRENDER TO YOUR MAN MADE SYSTEMS(ALLAH U AKBAR)

From: Facts Finder
To: So called sister who fear Allah.
Subject: Are you sure.
Date: Sun Feb 24 10:34:54 2002

Message:
Question: Hmmmm? So she is an American Lady, so who shot her. I 
would like to know. SAD. The American?

Christian who beat their wife? Yes, definitely there are some. 
We called them the lost sheep.

Sorry I am not bringing out the Taliban but as we know how the 
women are being treated. Are you Afghan? So why cover the lady 
instead of educating the men. Sometime I wonder why can your 
guys marry 4 wife when we only marry 1. What GOD has chosen, men 
shall not divide.

Yes, it is good that you are GOD fearing. As me and OM/cf 
mention many time we are not against Islam it is the extremists 
who is spoiling the name of your religion which we find it is 
not fair. Or are you?

So have you check on the other side? You seem to be a nice 
person to have a good and fair discussion.

May Allah shine on you his blessing.

From: SISTER SOLDIER TILL DEATH
To: FACTS FINDER
Date: Sun Feb 24 17:34:44 2002

Message:
FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY HOW THE HELL WOULD I KNOW WHO SHOT 
THIS POOR WOMAN IF THATS THE CASE MAYBE I SHOULD BE ASKING YOU 
THAT BUT ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE JUST SHOVED IT OFF AS IF IT NEVER 
HAPPENED OR NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY IM A LIER BUT YOU KNOW 
WHAT IT HAPPENED IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO COVER IT UP THEN 
SO BE IT BUT I WILL NEVER FORGET. AS FOR WETHER IM AFGAN OR NOT 
DOES NOT REALLY MATTER WHAT I AM IS A MUSLIM SISTER TILL DEATH 
AND AS FOR THE STATMENT YOU SAY ON WHY WE COVER YOU MAKE OUT 
LIKE WE ARE ALL FORSED TO COVER LOL JUST STOP AND LOOK AT YOUR 
COUNTRY ITS CALLED LAND OF FREEDOM ISNT IT SO THEN WHY DONT THE 
MUSLIM SISTERS UNCOVER THEN YOU KNOW WHY BECAUSE THEY CHOOSE TO 
COVER FROM THERE OWN FREE WILL WHEN ARE YOU WESTERNERS GOING TO 
RELISE THAT WE DONT HAVE TO DRESS LIKE TRAMPS TO GET ATTENTION 
OR BECOME BELEMIC JUST TO FIT INTO YOUR MAN MADE SYSTEMS I TOLD 
YOU BEFORE WE ONLY FEAR ALLAH FOR ME PERSONALLY THE MORE YOU 
KUFFAR LAUGH AND SAY THINGS TO ME THE MORE STRONGER YOU ALL MAKE 
ME THE MORE THINGS YOU PUT ME AND MY MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS 
THROUGH THE MORE WE WILL BE REWARDED WHEN WE DIE.AS FOR MARRYING 
MORE THAN ONE WIFE THERE ARE MANY REASON WHY ONE BEING IF A 
WOMAN HAS NO ONE TO LOOK AFTER HER AND THE MAN CAN TAKE CARE OF 
HER AND LOOK AFTER HER AND GIVE HER A BETTER LIFE THEN HE WILL 
MARRY HER TO SAVE HER LIFE YOU PEOPLE WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT 
ITS LIKE TO LIVE IN COUNTRYS THAT ARE TORN APART BY WAR BUT DONT 
SIT THERE AND TELL ME THAT YOUR PEOPLE DO NOT MARRY MORE THAN 
ONE WIFE I HAVE SEEN MANY TIMES IN YOUR SOCIETY MEN MARRYING 
MORE THAN ONE AND HAVING AT LEAST FORTY ODD KIDS SO DONT BE A 
HYPOCRITE.WHEN YOU STOP AND LOOK AT AMERICA THEY IN MY EYES ARE 
WORSE THAN TALIBAN AND YOU ALL TALK OFF HOW TALIBAN EXACUTED 
PEOPLE BUT YOU NEVER ASK THE QUESTION WHY THEY WHERE EXECUTED 
YOU ONLY LISTEN TO WHAT YOUR STUPID MEDIA TELLS YOU HOW MANY 
PEOPLE HAS AMERICA EXECUTED HOW MANY HAVE YOU SENT TO THE 
ELECTRIC CHAIR DO YOU KNOW WHAT AND HOW PAINFUL IT WOULD BE LIKE 
DYING THAT WAY SO IN MY EYES I SEE THAT AS VERY HARSH OR WHAT 
ABOUT ALL THE AFRICANS THAT YOU HUNG AND TORTUED AND MADE SLAVES 
BECAUSE OF THE COLOUR OFF THERE SKIN YOU ALL DISGUST ME SO DONT 
SIT THERE AND RUN YOUR MOUTHS OFF AND SAY TALIBAN THIS TALIBAN 
THAT YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OFF HYPOCRITS LIKE I SAID BEFORE ISLAM 
WILL NEVER SURRENDER (ALLAH U AKBAR)

From: Muslim Brother
To: Muslim Sister
Subject: YOU HAVE A BIG MOUTH. CUT OUT YOUR TONGUE!
Date: Sun Feb 24 18:47:04 2002

Message:
Muslim Girls TURN ME ON! 
The finer points of Islam.
 
Men are in charge of women, because Allah has preferred men over 
women .As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and 
ill-conduct, admonish them; banish them to their couches and 
beat them. 
 Holy Quran (4:34) 

If a man and a woman are alone in one place, the third person 
present is the devil. 
 The Prophet Muhammad 

These are days of moral decline and spiritual malaise for the 
West, what with compulsory lesbianism among grade-school girls, 
not to mention lotsa slobbering, sourpussed, clit-stapled, hairy-
pitted female bulldoggies who never resolved their daddy issues 
hanging around all the places where I like to buy coffee. 

There are no dykes in Afghanistan, and that s reason enough to 
move there. 

Chicks are ruining the West. Over here in this neck of the 
world, a sloppy Goddess Goulash stinks up the skies while the 
Middle East, with its well-endowed macho God, starts to smell 
like paradise. 

Wherefore art thou going, O wayward Western woman? 

The Western woman has become defiled. 

The Western woman has lost her soul amid the godless quest for 
mammon. 

The Western woman has gotten all uppity and stuff, always 
ordering the most expensive desserts when you take her out to 
dinner. 

The Western woman does not realize that there is no higher 
satisfaction for a woman than to please Allah. 

Here in the land of the Great Satan, we extol feminine character 
traits, and yet we still expect to win a war against our 
unflinchingly butch enemy. 

The man who falls prey to feminine wiles is no man at all. Those 
Muslims know that once you surrender your mighty natural-born 
male-warrior spirit to female charms, you become a pathetic, 
undignified cuckold. You become an unmanly lad. What s worse, 
you incur the wrath of Allah, who s really hard to deal with 
when he s pissed. 

Women have desires that have to be fully suppressed lest they 
lure the righteous believer into the pits of hell. Whorish 
immorality is the natural female state. Observe how the four-
year-old girl rubs her crotch up against the coffee table while 
you have guests over, and you ll agree with my premise here. 
Once a woman realizes she is capable of sexual pleasure, she 
becomes vexatious and troublesome to the righteous man. You get 
her started, and a few weeks later she s gobblin  chubby 
strangers  cocks in piss-encrusted truck-stop bathrooms, and 
that s not cool. That s not cool at all. 

Unlike the vaguely faggy virgin Jesus, the Prophet Muhammad was 
a stud-muffin. Hung like Allah, too, I ll bet. Here was a 
religious leader with a robust enjoyment of carnal delights. He 
liked  em young and tight. He liked  em old and loose. He 
liked  em, period. But he didn t like  em if they had their 
period,  coz that s disgusting. While the homo Christ chose to 
laze around with twelve other males, Muhammad plowed through at 
least a dozen wives, plus scads of hot, horny slave chicks. He 
married a six-year-old girl when he was 51. He died at 62 on the 
lap of a 17-year-old bride. A true pimp daddy, Muhammad was. The 
Original Gangsta. 

And his followers were nearly as burly as the Prophet himself. 
His cousin Ali wisely stated that "The entire woman is 
evil .Men, never ever obey your women .They complain of being 
oppressed when in fact it is they who oppress." Omar, Islam s 
second caliph, counseled Muslim guys to "Adopt positions 
opposite those of women. There is great merit in such 
opposition." Indeed, these were men of great wisdom and 
holiness. Righteous bro s. Ain t no fun if the homies can t have 
none! 

And I want some. I want some sultry Saudi sirens. Some cock-
hungry Kuwaiti cuties. A classy Pakistani lassie with a sassy 
chassis. 

The Muslim girl oozes mystery. She teases, tempts, and 
tantalizes. She keeps her mouth shut, too, or they ll cut off 
her tongue. All that repression is simply irresistible to me. 
Her delicious subservience. The way she does what she s told. 
The way she understands that all these rules are for her own 
good. Think of all the repression which has been crammed into 
her swarthy body. Think of all that coiled libidinal energy, a 
hundred times more pent-up than in the most guilt-stricken 
Catholic girl. Think of how fun it would be to fuck all that 
repression out of her. 

Suddenly I m transported to a harem tent filled with big fluffy 
pillows, hash-filled hookahs, and totally hot chicks in silk 
costumes who wanna blow me. A summery breeze floats in from the 
oil fields. The smell of cocoa butter and fig newtons 
intoxicates my nostrils. A big, sopping, matted, goat-herd shrub 
waits nestled between her legs. 

She s wrapped up like a mummy, peeking out from the slit in her 
burqa. I watch lustfully as it takes her four hours to get all 
those clothes off. I sniff her Islamic vagina. Tweak her Quranic 
nipples. Poke my finger inside her Middle Eastern anus. Go on a 
Crusade  tween her legs. Invade the Holy Land. A hummus-like 
paste forms between her thighs. When I finally insert my 
falafel, she shrieks with delight. 

Happy Arabian boners pop across the Middle East. Millions of 
brown, hairy nutsacks tighten in unison. Proud Muslim girls 
hoist their lovers  cocks like AK-47s. Muslim women   YES! ... 
Muslim women  NOW!   Muslim women   GROOVY!   Muslim women   
FUNKY FRESH! 

I want to take her home and tell her to do things. Vacuum that 
carpet, Muslim girl! Fetch me a hoagie and some cold lemonade, 
thou handmaiden of the One True Prophet! Keep your olive-colored 
bazooms tightly under wraps, Muslim girl. Stay in the house, 
Muslim girl. Stay ignorant. Stay preggers. Stay down. Down, 
girl, down! 

The word "Islam" translates literally as "submission." God wants 
us to keep the wimmens down with head scarves and 
clitoridectomies and ceaseless beatings. Shred and sew up their 
genitals in order to contain their relentless, meandering lust. 
Righteous men nod approvingly as Revolutionary Guardsmen 
disfigure the faces of women who ve worn makeup. Wives suspected 
of immorality are doused with gasoline and torched to a crisp. 
Thousands of randy Muslim bucks cheer and laugh as sin-stained 
women are herded into stadiums for public floggings. 

Islam offers several advantages for the believing man s 
enjoyment, almost all of them sexual. On Earth, a Muslim man can 
marry up to four wives at once. In heaven, he is greeted with a 
minimum of seventy-two submissive virgins poised to please him 
eternally seventy-two Muslim broads who never break a sweat, 
never age, never get their periods, and never tell you to take 
out the trash. In paradise, a man is given the sex drive of a 
hundred men. It s like Islamic Viagra! Lo! My Penis is ever 
High, Exalted, Great. 

The Holy Quran advises us: "Men, your wives are your tillage. Go 
into your tillage any way you want." I think that means the 
Hershey Highway is OK with God. If you were so inclined, you 
could probably get away with the Dirty Sanchez and the Dutch 
Oven, too. 

The more I hear about Islam, the more I like it. Islam is such a 
cool, violent, sexy religion! Islam rocks! Those Islams is good 
people. Those Muslims know how to keep their bitches in line! 

And I ask the nonbelievers what s so wrong with all of that? And 
I wonder are we really on the right side in this war? It is a 
war of gender philosophies that we re fighting, and we may be on 
the wrong side, dudes. The Western man would be wise to take a 
second look at Islam, if only for the chicks. 

Would you be willing to trade some of our cherished freedoms for 
the right to enslave and abuse women? When one ponders all the 
sexy perks offered to Muslim men, it becomes obvious why they re 
willing to die for their faith. 

The attack on the Twin Towers was intrinsically phallic in its 
symbolism. Woe unto the emasculated Western Man, mocked by his 
women as he drools and begs for sex. Woe unto the West, where 
women dominate and the culture falls apart. The West will fall 
because it is pussy-whipped. We may have the money and the 
technology, but we just don t have the starch in our shorts 
anymore. 

However the winds blow, the war on terrorism will be a good 
thing for the American male. If we win the war, we get their 
women. If we lose the war, we get to treat our women like they 
treat their women. Who s to complain?

From: Facts Finder
To: Muslim sister who fear God.
Subject: Answer to your post
Date: Sun Feb 24 19:35:47 2002

Message:
To answer your post

FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY HOW THE HELL WOULD I KNOW WHO SHOT 
THIS POOR WOMAN IF THATS THE CASE MAYBE I SHOULD BE ASKING YOU 
THAT BUT ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE JUST SHOVED IT OFF AS IF IT NEVER 
HAPPENED OR NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY IM A LIER BUT YOU KNOW 
WHAT IT HAPPENED IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO COVER IT UP THEN 
SO BE IT BUT I WILL NEVER FORGET.

No girl, I am not saying you are lier, I am just asking who shot 
that poor women, for what reason, is it because she is an 
American? What to cover up when we do not even know that there 
was such happening.


AS FOR WETHER IM AFGAN OR NOT DOES NOT REALLY MATTER WHAT I AM 
IS A MUSLIM SISTER TILL DEATH.

I was just asking you do you know the life of aghan women during 
the Taliban regime. I was asking an indirect question. Good for 
you to have a strong faith in your religion. Remember the 
teaching of Mohammed not the extremists.

AND AS FOR THE STATMENT YOU SAY ON WHY WE COVER YOU MAKE OUT 
LIKE WE ARE ALL FORSED TO COVER LOL JUST STOP AND LOOK AT YOUR 
COUNTRY ITS CALLED LAND OF FREEDOM ISNT IT SO THEN WHY DONT THE 
MUSLIM SISTERS UNCOVER THEN YOU KNOW WHY BECAUSE THEY CHOOSE TO 
COVER FROM THERE OWN FREE WILL WHEN ARE YOU WESTERNERS GOING TO 
RELISE THAT WE DONT HAVE TO DRESS LIKE TRAMPS TO GET ATTENTION 
OR BECOME BELEMIC JUST TO FIT INTO YOUR MAN MADE SYSTEMS

Was it not force in Aghan? Then why are there so many now in 
aghan showing their beatiful face. You mean these women are 
sinners. Yes in America there are some muslim ladies still cover 
up but as you say America is a freedom country so she is not 
going to be find or strip off her veil. Maybe at the present 
situation she may get the attention of some muslim haters, sorry 
to say that. The majority muslim women in American are not cover 
up, so you call them sinners too. So are you covered up? You 
call the women who dress up and put on make up, tramp?. Is it 
wrong to look beautiful. Ask the world muslims sisters? Yes I do 
agree some do over dress or under dress and some are real tramp 
but not to called all women in america tramp.

I TOLD YOU BEFORE WE ONLY FEAR ALLAH FOR ME PERSONALLY THE MORE 
YOU KUFFAR LAUGH AND SAY THINGS TO ME THE MORE STRONGER YOU ALL 
MAKE ME THE MORE THINGS YOU PUT ME AND MY MUSLIM BROTHERS AND 
SISTERS THROUGH THE MORE WE WILL BE REWARDED WHEN WE DIE.

Don't get me wrong girl, as I told you I am not talking about 
religion. I am just viewing my point of present reality. Good 
for you to have a strong faith. God will reward those who seek 
peace, forgiveness and love.

AS FOR MARRYING MORE THAN ONE WIFE THERE ARE MANY REASON WHY ONE 
BEING IF A WOMAN HAS NO ONE TO LOOK AFTER HER AND THE MAN CAN 
TAKE CARE OF HER AND LOOK AFTER HER AND GIVE HER A BETTER LIFE 
THEN HE WILL MARRY HER TO SAVE HER LIFE YOU PEOPLE WILL NEVER 
UNDERSTAND WHAT ITS LIKE TO LIVE IN COUNTRYS THAT ARE TORN APART 
BY WAR

Ok, I understand, that is, if the women is from a war torn 
countries. What about those who is leaving in Saudi, Kuwait, 
Iran and other muslims country they men are allowed to marry 4 
wife.

BUT DONT SIT THERE AND TELL ME THAT YOUR PEOPLE DO NOT MARRY 
MORE THAN ONE WIFE I HAVE SEEN MANY TIMES IN YOUR SOCIETY MEN 
MARRYING MORE THAN ONE AND HAVING AT LEAST FORTY ODD KIDS SO 
DONT BE A HYPOCRITE.

Yes I agree with you, there are people who marry 9 wives but not 
legally. This does not only happen in America but all over the 
world. Even in Muslim country the legal is 4 but there is 1 man 
in Malaysia who has 12 wives. No I am not a hypocrite, I have a 
wife and a daughter. I have been married to the same woman for 
the past 22 years.

WHEN YOU STOP AND LOOK AT AMERICA THEY IN MY EYES ARE WORSE THAN 
TALIBAN AND YOU ALL TALK OFF HOW TALIBAN EXACUTED PEOPLE BUT YOU 
NEVER ASK THE QUESTION WHY THEY WHERE EXECUTED YOU ONLY LISTEN 
TO WHAT YOUR STUPID MEDIA TELLS YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE HAS AMERICA 
EXECUTED HOW MANY HAVE YOU SENT TO THE ELECTRIC CHAIR DO YOU 
KNOW WHAT AND HOW PAINFUL IT WOULD BE LIKE DYING THAT WAY SO IN 
MY EYES I SEE THAT AS VERY HARSH OR WHAT ABOUT ALL THE AFRICANS 
THAT YOU HUNG AND TORTUED AND MADE SLAVES BECAUSE OF THE COLOUR 
OFF THERE SKIN YOU ALL DISGUST ME SO DONT SIT THERE AND RUN YOUR 
MOUTHS OFF AND SAY TALIBAN THIS TALIBAN THAT YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH 
OFF HYPOCRITS LIKE I SAID BEFORE ISLAM WILL NEVER SURRENDER

In a country there should be Law an Order, I did not say Taliban 
this and Taliban that. Yes the Taliban came out with their 
strict muslims laws and if it is not obey the offenders will be 
punish and if it is more serious they will be shot in public 
execution in a football stadium. This was told by an aghan woman 
who secretly film the happening. Yes, in America the serious 
criminals are executed by electric chair. No death is painless.

Would you like to live under the Taliban rules? Do you know what 
it is like for the aghan women. Look at them now. Aren't they 
much happier. Yes they are still practising Islam but not by men 
made Islamic rules

Lastly, you should notice that, I am not calling you names like 
hypocrite, kuffars or what ever and I never will. We are God 
fearing people and I love humanity, be it different race or 
religion. Keep your faith and always remember, peace, love and 
forgiveness.

You have a wonderful day ahead. Take care


From: om/cf
To: Facts Finders
Date: Sun Feb 24 22:18:59 2002

Message:
No state in the U.S. uses the electric chair for executing 
murderers anymore. Florida was the last and they stopped using 
it several years ago. Now its 'lethal injection', a combination 
of painkillers and drugs that stop the heart and lungs and 
basically puts the murderer to sleep forever. The pain is felt 
by the victims family and the murderers family.

From: A REAL MUSLIM SISTER
To: THE SO CALLED MUSLIM BROTHER
Date: Mon Feb 25 00:38:24 2002

Message:
LOOOOOOOL WELL IN MY EYES YOU ARE NO MUSLIM AND AS FOR MY TOUNGE 
SHOULD BE CUT WHAT THE HELL WHERE YOU GOING ON ABOUT I JUST READ 
NOTHING BUT BULLSHIT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME YOUR JUST A SICK 
PERVERTED PERSON THAT THINKS OF NOTHING BUT SEX WAKE UP FOOL I 
DIDNT UNDERSTAND  NONE OF THAT CRAP THAT YOU WHERE TRIBLING AND 
AS FOR YOU FACTS FINDER IM NOT GOING TO BOTHER WITH YOU KNOW 
MORE IT SEEMS TO ME YOUR MIND IS MADE UP NO MATTER WHAT I TRY TO 
EXPLAIN TO YOU YOU ALWAYS THINK YOU HAVE ANSWER FOR IT IN MY 
EYES THE WOMEN THAT HAVE UNCOVERED IN AFGAN ITS WRONG I DO NOT 
AGREE WITH THAT AT ALL BUT IF THEY CHOOSE TO FOLLOW THAT PATH 
THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO ALLAH ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMNT 
BUT DO NOT SIT THERE AND MAKE OUT TO ME THAT MAJORITY OF AFGAN 
HAS UNCOVERED THATS JUST RUBBISH AND AS FOR WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT 
MOST MUSLIM SISTERS IN AMERICA DONT COVER WHERE DID YOU GET THAT 
INFORMATION FROM LOOOOOL ISLAM IS VERY STRONG IM AMERICA 
(ALHUMDULILLAH)I KNOW TO MANY MUSLIM SISTERS IN A LOT OF STATES 
THERE, REALLY BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING MAKE SURE IT IS REALLY 
TRUTH I AM NOT ASHAMED OF WHAT I WEAR AT LEAST I CAN WALK 
KNOWING THAT WHEN I DIE I WILL KNOW THAT I HAVE DONE WHAT WAS 
RIGHT WETHER YOU PEOPLE BELEIVE THAT OR NOT THATS YOUR PROBLEM I 
WALK PAST HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE PURPLE HAIR OR RINGS IN 
EVERY INCH OF THERE BODIES AND ALL YOU PEOPLE THINK THATS NORMAL 
I SAY IF ANY ONES LOST ITS YOU PEOPLE SORRY TO SAY JUST BECAUSE 
WE COVER OURSELVES DOES NOT MEAN WE WHERE FORCED TO, ITS BECAUSE 
WE CHOOSE TO WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU WESTERNERS TO UNDERSTAND 
THIS LIKE I SAID SO MANYYYYYYYY TIMES I LOVE ISLAM AND I WILL 
NEVER STOP SO YOU CAN ALL TWIST AND TURN ISLAM OUT TO BE ANY 
SOUGHT OF RELIGION YOU WANT BUT I ONLY BOW DOWN TO (SUBAAHN 
ALLAH TALEE)I WILL ONLY ANSWER TO ALLAH ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT 
NOT ANY OF YOU.(ALLAHU AKBAR)TO ALL MY MUSLIM BROTHERS AND 
SISTERS I LOVE YOU ALL WE NEED TO STAND AND UNITE AND PROTECT 
THE UMMAH WE WHERE GIVEN SOMETHING THAT NO ONE CAN EVER TAKE 
AWAY FROM US STAND AND BE PROUD MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS AS WE 
WILL ONLY ANSWER TO (SUBHAAN ALLAH TALEE)WHEN WE DIE.

From: Facts Finder
To: Om/.Cf,Muslim sister.
Subject: Lethal injection.
Date: Mon Feb 25 02:18:23 2002

Message:
Oh yes, I know, have read about it. I just get to caught up with 
what the muslim sister was talking about electric chair and 
forget about the lethal injection.

So muslims sister now we know it is not electric chair after all.

Sorry for wrong info.

Thanks Om/Cf for clarification.

From: Facts Finders
To: Muslim sister.
Subject: Sorry.
Date: Mon Feb 25 03:05:22 2002

Message:
AS FOR YOU FACTS FINDER IM NOT GOING TO BOTHER WITH YOU KNOW 
MORE IT SEEMS TO ME YOUR MIND IS MADE UP NO MATTER WHAT I TRY TO 
EXPLAIN TO YOU YOU ALWAYS THINK YOU HAVE ANSWER FOR IT IN MY 
EYES THE WOMEN THAT HAVE UNCOVERED IN AFGAN ITS WRONG I DO NOT 
AGREE WITH THAT AT ALL BUT IF THEY CHOOSE TO FOLLOW THAT PATH 
THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO ALLAH ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMNT

Sorry, if I have offended you, yes there are still many muslims 
women in afghan and all over the world that are covered up. So 
what is the standard for covering up. The whole body including 
the face? So each muslim countries has different standard of 
covering up. So if every muslims women follow the standard of 
Afghan women than there are a lot of sinners all over the world. 
It is not what you wear, it is what your heart wear.

YOU SAID ABOUT MOST MUSLIM SISTERS IN AMERICA DONT COVER WHERE 
DID YOU GET THAT INFORMATION FROM LOOOOOL ISLAM IS VERY STRONG 
IM AMERICA (ALHUMDULILLAH)I KNOW TO MANY MUSLIM SISTERS IN A LOT 
OF STATES THERE, REALLY BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING MAKE SURE IT IS 
REALLY TRUTH I AM NOT ASHAMED OF WHAT I WEAR AT LEAST I CAN WALK 
KNOWING THAT WHEN I DIE I WILL KNOW THAT I HAVE DONE WHAT WAS 
RIGHT WETHER YOU PEOPLE BELEIVE THAT OR NOT THATS YOUR PROBLEM I 
WALK PAST HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE PURPLE HAIR OR RINGS IN 
EVERY INCH OF THERE BODIES AND ALL YOU PEOPLE THINK THATS NORMAL 
I SAY IF ANY ONES LOST ITS YOU PEOPLE SORRY TO SAY JUST BECAUSE 
WE COVER OURSELVES DOES NOT MEAN WE WHERE FORCED TO, ITS BECAUSE 
WE CHOOSE TO WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU WESTERNERS TO UNDERSTAND 
THIS LIKE I SAID SO MANYYYYYYYY TIMES.

Yes I can see you really are a good muslims. I am not against 
you for what you wear. It is your choice. So are the choice of 
those people who has purple hair and ring all over their body. 
Yes some have pain all over their face to look like devil. 
Terrible. To be honest, I think they look terrible too. If they 
were my kid, I would not allow that too. In my country, I have 
lots of muslims friends too. Just visit their house for haji ( 
what do you call the festival that just past). Yes once a while 
they put on their tudung or head scarf but normally they put on 
normal clothing like every other race and religion. Yes they 
fast during the Ramadan period. They attend mass every Friday. 
They are nice people. So don't get me wrong that I am against 
you covering up, it is your choice.

I LOVE ISLAM AND I WILL NEVER STOP SO YOU CAN ALL TWIST AND TURN 
ISLAM OUT TO BE ANY SOUGHT OF RELIGION YOU WANT BUT I ONLY BOW 
DOWN TO (SUBAAHN ALLAH TALEE)I WILL ONLY ANSWER TO ALLAH ON THE 
DAY OF JUDGEMENT NOT ANY OF YOU.(ALLAHU AKBAR)TO ALL MY MUSLIM 
BROTHERS AND SISTERS I LOVE YOU ALL WE NEED TO STAND AND UNITE 
AND PROTECT THE UMMAH WE WHERE GIVEN SOMETHING THAT NO ONE CAN 
EVER TAKE AWAY FROM US STAND AND BE PROUD MY BROTHERS AND 
SISTERS AS WE WILL ONLY ANSWER TO (SUBHAAN ALLAH TALEE)WHEN WE 
DIE.

You are always missing your point. I am not against you being a 
muslims and I believe I did encourage you to keep up with your 
faith and follow the teaching of Muhammed not the extremists. 
Yes you can stay united but always remember to have a heart full 
of love and peace instead of hatred.

You notice on my post I always wish you well.

Anyway, if do not want to reply me anymore, it is OK. Have a 
wonderful year ahead. Keep up with your prayers of love. May 
your GOD shine his love for you and your family. Take care

Oh yes, I am not an American nor a Jew. I am an asian.

From: Facts Finder
To: Muslim sister
Subject: Amendment
Date: Mon Feb 25 03:15:25 2002

Message:
They attend mass every Friday.

Should read as : They attend prayers on every Friday.

Sorry for mistake.

From: SISTER
To: ALL
Date: Mon Feb 25 03:36:22 2002

Message:
When You Look At Me?

What do you see when you look at me

Do you see someone limited, or someone free

All some people can do is just look and stare

Simply because they can't see my hair

Others think I am controlled and uneducated

They think that I am limited and un-liberated

They are so thankful that they are not me

Because they would like to remain 'free'

Well free isn't exactly the word I would've used

Describing women who are cheated on and abused

They think that I do not have opinions or voice

They think that being hooded isn't my choice

They think that the hood makes me look caged

That my husband or dad are totally outraged

All they can do is look at me in fear

And in my eye there is a tear

Not because I have been stared at or made fun of

But because people are ignoring the one up above

On the day of judgment they will be the fools

Because they were too ashamed to play by their own rules

Maybe the guys won't think I am a cutie

But at least I am filled with more inner beauty

See I have declined from being a guy's toy

Because I won't let myself be controlled by a boy

Real men are able to appreciate my mind

And aren't busy looking at my behind

Hooded girls are the ones really helping the muslim cause

The role that we play definitely deserves applause

I will be recognized because I am smart and bright

And because some people are inspired by my sight

The smart ones are attracted by my tranquility

In the back of their mind they wish they were me

We have the strength to do what we think is right

Even if it means putting up a life long fight

You see we are not controlled by a mini skirt and tight shirt

We are given only respect, and never treated like dirt

So you see, we are the ones that are free and liberated

We are not the ones that are sexually terrorized and violated

We are the ones that are free and pure

We're free of STD's that have no cure

So when people ask you how you feel about tha hood

Just sum it up by saying 'baby its all good' ;)


From: Merlyn
To: Poetic Muslim
Subject: Thanks for te poem but we like our ways better, and yes you all have your own problems, we did not create
Date: Mon Feb 25 18:52:06 2002

Message:
BY VICTOR DAVIS HANSON 
Monday, February 25, 2002 12:01 a.m. EST 
Since September 11, we have heard mostly slander and lies about 
the West from radical Islamic fundamentalists in their defense 
of the terrorists. But the Middle Eastern mainstream--diplomats, 
intellectuals and journalists--has also bombarded the American 
public with an array of unflattering images and texts, 
suggesting that the extremists' anti-Americanism may not be an 
eccentricity of the ignorant but rather a representative slice 
of the views of millions. 
Egyptian Nobel Prize-winning novelist Naguib Mahfouz reportedly 
announced from his Cairo home that America's bombing of the 
Taliban was "just as despicable a crime" as the September 11 
attacks--as if the terrorists' unprovoked mass murder of 
civilians were the moral equivalent of selected air strikes 
against enemy soldiers in wartime. Americans, reluctant to 
answer back their Middle Eastern critics for fear of charges 
of "Islamophobia" or "Arab smearing," have let such accusations 
go largely unchecked. 
Two striking themes--one overt, one implied--characterize most 
Arab invective: first, that there is some sort of equivalence--
political, cultural and military--between the West and the 
Muslim world; and second, that America has been exceptionally 
unkind toward the Middle East. Both premises are false and 
reveal that the temple of anti-Americanism is supported by 
pillars of utter ignorance. 
 
Few in the Middle East have a clue about the nature, origins or 
history of democracy, a word that, along with its family 
(constitution, freedom and citizen), has no history in the Arab 
vocabulary, or indeed any philological pedigree in any language 
other than Greek and Latin and their modern European offspring. 
Consensual government is not the norm of human politics but a 
rare and precious idea, not imposed or bequeathed but usually 
purchased with the blood of heroes and patriots, whether in 
classical Athens, revolutionary America or more recently Eastern 
Europe. Democracy's lifeblood is secularism and religious 
tolerance, coupled with free speech and economic liberty. 
Afghan tribal councils, without written constitutions, are 
better than tyranny, surely; but they do not make consensual 
government. Nor do the Palestinian parliament and advisory 
bodies in Kuwait. None of these faux assemblies are elected by 
an unbound citizenry, free to criticize (much less recall, 
impeach or depose) their heads of state by legal means, or even 
to speak openly to journalists about the failings of their own 
government. Plato remarked of such superficial government-by-
deliberation that even thieves divvy up the loot by give-and-
take, suggesting that the human tendency to parley is natural 
but is not the same as the formal machinery of democratic 
government. 
Our own cultural elites, either out of timidity or sometimes 
ignorance of the uniqueness of our own political institutions, 
seldom make such distinctions. But the differences are critical, 
because they lie unnoticed at the heart of the crisis in the 
Muslim world, and they explain our own tenuous relations with 
the regimes in the Gulf and the Middle East. Israel does not 
really know to what degree the Palestinian authorities have a 
real constituency, because the people of the West Bank 
themselves do not know either--inasmuch as they cannot debate 
one another on domestic television or campaign on the streets 
for alternate policies. Yasser Arafat assumed power by Western 
fiat; when he finally was allowed to hold real and periodic 
elections in his homeland, he simply perpetuated autocracy--as 
corrupt as it is brutal. 
 
By the same token, we are surprised at the duplicity of the Gulf 
States in defusing internal dissent by redirecting it against 
Americans, forgetting that such is the way of all dictators, 
who, should they lose office, do not face the golden years of 
Jimmy Carter's busy house-building or Bill Clinton's self-
absorbed angst. Either they dodge the mob's bullets or scurry to 
a fortified compound on the French coast a day ahead of the 
posse. The royal family of Saudi Arabia cannot act out of 
principle, because no principle other than force put and keeps 
them in power. All the official jets, snazzy embassies and 
expensive press agents cannot hide that these illegitimate 
rulers are not in the political sense Western at all. 
How sad that intellectuals of the Arab world--themselves given 
freedom only when they emigrate to the United States or Europe--
profess support for democratic reform from Berkeley or Cambridge 
but secretly fear that, back home, truly free elections would 
usher in folk like the Iranian imams, who, in the manner of the 
Nazis in 1933, would thereupon destroy the very machinery that 
elected them. The fact is that democracy does not spring fully 
formed from the head of Zeus but rather is an epiphenomenon--the 
formal icing on a pre-existing cake of egalitarianism, economic 
opportunity, religious tolerance and constant self-criticism. 
The former cannot appear in the Muslim world until gallant men 
and women insist upon the latter--and therein demolish the 
antidemocratic and medieval forces of tribalism, authoritarian 
traditionalism and Islamic fundamentalism. 
How much easier for nonvoters of the Arab world to vent 
frustration at the West, as if, in some Machiavellian plot, a 
democratic America, Israel and Europe have conspired to prevent 
Muslims from adopting the Western invention of democracy! 
Democracy is hardly a Western secret to be closely guarded and 
kept from the mujahideen. Islam is welcome to it, with the 
blessing and subsidy of the West. Yes, we must promote democracy 
abroad in the Muslim world; but only they, not we, can ensure 
its success. 
 
The catastrophe of the Muslim world is also explicable in its 
failure to grasp the nature of Western success, which springs 
neither from luck nor resources, genes nor geography. Like Third 
World Marxists of the 1960s, who put blame for their own self-
inflicted misery upon corporations, colonialism and racism--
anything other than the absence of real markets and a free 
society--the Islamic intelligentsia recognizes the Muslim 
world's inferiority vis- -vis the West, but it then seeks to 
fault others for its own self-created fiasco. Government 
spokesmen in the Middle East should ignore the nonsense of the 
cultural relativists and discredited Marxists and have the 
courage to say that they are poor because their populations are 
nearly half illiterate, that their governments are not free, 
that their economies are not open, and that their 
fundamentalists impede scientific inquiry, unpopular expression 
and cultural exchange. 
Tragically, the immediate prospects for improvement are dismal, 
inasmuch as the war against terrorism has further isolated the 
Middle East. Travel, foreign education and academic exchanges--
the only sources of future hope for the Arab world--have 
screeched to a halt. All the conferences in Cairo about Western 
bias and media distortion cannot hide this self-inflicted 
catastrophe--and the growing ostracism and suspicion of Middle 
Easterners in the West. 
But blaming the West, and Israel, for the unendurable reality is 
easier for millions of Muslims than admitting the truth. 
Billions of barrels of oil, large populations, the Suez Canal, 
the fertility of the Nile, Tigris and Euphrates valleys, 
invaluable geopolitical locations and a host of other natural 
advantages that helped create wealthy civilizations in the past 
now yield an excess of misery, rather than the riches of 
resource-poor Hong Kong or Switzerland. How could it be 
otherwise, when it takes bribes and decades to obtain a building 
permit in Cairo, when habeas corpus is a cruel joke in Baghdad, 
and when Saudi Arabia turns out more graduates in Islamic 
studies than in medicine or engineering? 
To tackle illiteracy, gratuitous state-sanctioned killing, and 
the economic sclerosis that comes from corruption and state 
control would require the courage and self-examination of 
Eastern Europe, Russia, South America, even of China. Instead, 
wedded to the old bromides that the West causes their misery, 
that fundamentalist Islam and crackpot mullahs have had no role 
in their disasters, that the subjugation of women is 
a "different" rather than a foul (and economically foolish) 
custom, Muslim intellectuals have railed these past few months 
about the creation of Israel half a century ago, and they have 
sat either silent or amused while the mob in their streets 
chants in praise of a mass murderer. Meanwhile millions of 
Muslims tragically stay sick and hungry in silence. 
 
Has the Muslim world gone mad in its threats and ultimatums? 
Throughout this war, Muslims have saturated us with overt and 
with insidious warnings. If America retaliated to the mass 
murder of its citizens, the Arab world would turn on us; if we 
bombed during Ramadan, we would incur lasting hatred; if we 
continued in our mission to avenge our dead, not an American 
would be safe in the Middle East. 
More disturbing even than the screaming street demonstrations 
have been the polite admonitions of corrupt grandees like Crown 
Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia or editor Abdul Rahman al Rashed 
of Saudi Arabia's state-owned Al Sharq al Awsat. Don't they see 
the impotence and absurdity of their veiled threats, backed 
neither by military force nor cultural dynamism? Don't they 
realize that nothing is more fatal to the security of a state 
than the divide between what it threatens and what it can 
deliver? 
There is an abyss between such rhetoric and the world we 
actually live in, an abyss called power. Out of politeness, we 
needn't crow over the relative military capability of one 
billion Muslims and 300 million Americans; but we should 
remember that the lethal, 2,500-year Western way of war is the 
reflection of very different ideas about personal freedom, civic 
militarism, individuality on the battlefield, military 
technology, logistics, decisive battle, group discipline, 
civilian audit and the dissemination and proliferation of 
knowledge. 
Values and traditions--not guns, germs and steel--explain why a 
tiny Greece of 50,000 square miles crushed a Persia 20 times 
larger; why Rome, not Carthage, created world government; why 
Cort s was in Tenochtitl n, and Montezuma not in Barcelona; why 
gunpowder in its home in China was a pastime for the elite 
while, when stolen and brought to Europe, it became a deadly and 
ever evolving weapon of the masses. Even at the nadir of Western 
power in the medieval ages, a Europe divided by religion and 
fragmented into feudal states could still send thousands of 
thugs into the Holy Land, while a supposedly ascendant Islam had 
neither the ships nor the skill nor the logistics to wage jihad 
in Scotland or Brittany. 
Much is made of 500 years of Ottoman dominance over a feuding 
Orthodox, Christian and Protestant West; but the sultans were 
powerful largely to the degree that they crafted alliances with 
a distrustful France and the warring Italian city-states, copied 
the Arsenal at Venice, turned out replicas of Italian and German 
canon, and moved their capital to European Constantinople. 
Moreover, their "dominance" amounted only to a rough naval 
parity with the West on the old Roman Mediterranean; they never 
came close to the conquest of the heart of Western Europe. 
Europeans, not Ottomans, colonized central and southern Africa, 
Asia and the Pacific and the Americas--and not merely because of 
their Atlantic ports or ocean ships but rather because of their 
longstanding attitudes and traditions about scientific inquiry, 
secular thought, free markets and individual ingenuity and 
spontaneity. To be sure, military power is not a referendum on 
morality--Pizarro's record in Peru makes as grim reading as the 
Germans' in central Africa; it is, rather, a reflection of the 
amoral dynamism that fuels ships and soldiers. 
We are militarily strong, and the Arab world abjectly weak, not 
because of greater courage, superior numbers, higher IQs, more 
ores or better weather, but because of our culture. When it 
comes to war, one billion people and the world's oil are not 
nearly as valuable military assets as MIT, West Point, the House 
of Representatives, C-Span, Bill O'Rilley and the G.I. Bill. 
Between Xerxes on his peacock throne overlooking Salamis and 
Saddam on his balcony reviewing his troops, between the Greeks 
arguing and debating before they rowed out with Themistocles and 
the Americans haranguing one another on the eve of the Gulf War, 
lies a 2,500-year cultural tradition that explains why the rest 
of the world copies its weapons, uniforms and military 
organization from us, not vice versa. 
 
Many Middle Easterners have performed a great media charade 
throughout this war. They publish newspapers and televise the 
news, and thereby give the appearance of being modern and 
Western. But their reporters and anchormen are by no means 
journalists by Western standards of free and truthful inquiry. 
Whereas CNN makes a point of talking to the victims of 
collateral damage in Kabul, al-Jazeera would never interview the 
mothers of Israeli teenagers blown apart by Palestinian bombs. 
Nor does any Egyptian or Syrian television station welcome 
freewheeling debates or "Meet the Press"-style talk shows 
permitting criticism of the government or the national religion. 
Instead, they quibble over their own degrees of anti-Americanism 
and obfuscate the internal contradictions of Islam. The chief 
dailies in Algiers, Tehran and Kuwait City look like Pravda of 
old. The entire Islamic media is a simulacrum of the West, 
lacking the life-giving spirit of debate and self-criticism. 
As a result, when Americans see a cavalcade of talking Middle 
Eastern heads nod and blurt out the party line--that Israel is 
evil, that the United States is naive and misled, that Muslims 
are victims, that the West may soon have to reckon with Islamic 
anger--they assume the talk is orchestrated and therefore worth 
listening to only for what it teaches about how authoritarian 
governments can coerce and corrupt journalists and 
intellectuals. 
A novelist who writes whatever he pleases anywhere in the Muslim 
world is more likely to receive a fatwa and a mob at his 
courtyard than a prize for literary courage, as Naguib Mahfouz 
and Salman Rushdie have learned. No wonder a code of silence 
pervades the Islamic world. No wonder, too, that Islam is far 
more ignorant of us than we of it. And no wonder that the 
Muslims haven't a clue that, while their current furor is 
scripted, whipped up and mercurial, ours is far deeper and more 
lasting. 
Every Western intellectual knows Edward Said's much-hyped theory 
of "Orientalism," a purely mythical construct of how Western 
bias has misunderstood and distorted the Eastern "Other." In 
truth, the real problem is "Westernism"--the fatally erroneous 
idea in the Middle East that its propaganda-spewing Potemkin 
television stations give it a genuine understanding of the 
nature of America, an understanding Middle Easterners believe is 
deepened by the presence in their midst of a few McDonald's 
franchises and hired U.S. public-relations firms. 
That error--which mistakes ignorance for insight--helps explain 
why Osama bin Laden so grossly miscalculated the devastating 
magnitude of our response to September 11. In reality, the most 
parochial American knows more about the repressive nature of the 
Gulf States than the most sophisticated and well-traveled sheikh 
understands about the cultural underpinnings of this country, 
including the freedom of speech and inquiry that is missing in 
the Islamic press. 
 
Millions in the Middle East are obsessed with Israel, whether 
they live in sight of Tel Aviv or thousands of miles away. Their 
fury doesn't spring solely from genuine dismay over the hundreds 
of Muslims Israel has killed on the West Bank; after all, Saddam 
Hussein butchered hundreds of thousands of Shiites, Kurds and 
Iranians, while few in Cairo or Damascus said a word. Syria's 
Hafez Assad liquidated perhaps 20,000 in sight of Israel, 
without a single demonstration in any Arab capital. The murder 
of some 100,000 Muslims in Algeria and 40,000 in Chechnya in the 
last decade provoked few intellectuals in the Middle East to 
call for a pan-Islamic protest. Clearly, the anger derives not 
from the tragic tally of the fallen but from Islamic rage that 
Israelis have defeated Muslims on the battlefield repeatedly, 
decisively, at will and without modesty. 
If Israel were not so successful, free and haughty--if it were 
beleaguered and tottering on the verge of ruin--perhaps it would 
be tolerated. But in a sea of totalitarianism and government-
induced poverty, a relatively successful economy and a stable 
culture arising out of scrub and desert clearly irks its less 
successful neighbors. Envy, as the historian Thucydides reminds 
us, is a powerful emotion and has caused not a few wars. 
If Israel did not exist, the Arab world, in its current fit of 
denial, would have to invent something like it to vent its 
frustrations. That is not to say there may not be legitimate 
concerns in the struggle over Palestine, but merely that for 
millions of Muslims the fight over such small real estate stems 
from a deep psychological wound. It isn't about lebensraum or 
some actual physical threat. Israel is a constant reminder that 
it is a nation's culture--not its geography or size or magnitude 
of its oil reserves--that determines its wealth or freedom. For 
the Middle East to make peace with Israel would be to declare 
war on itself, to admit that that its own fundamental way of 
doing business--not the Jews--makes it poor, sick and weak. 
 
Throughout the Muslim world, myth and ignorance surround U.S. 
foreign policy toward the Middle East. Yes, we give Israel aid, 
but less than the combined billions that go to the Palestinians 
and to Egypt, Jordan and other Muslim countries. And it is one 
thing to subsidize a democratic and constitutional (if 
cantankerous) ally but quite another to pay for slander from 
theocratic or autocratic enemies. Though Israel has its fair 
share of fundamentalists and fanatics, the country is not the 
creation of clerics or strongmen but of European  migr s, who 
committed Israel from the start to democracy, free speech and 
abundant self-critique. 
Far from egging on Israel, the United States actually restrains 
the Israeli military, whose organization and discipline, along 
with the sophisticated Israeli arms industry, make it quite 
capable of annihilating nearly all its bellicose neighbors 
without American aid. Should the United States withdraw from 
active participation in the Middle East and let the contestants 
settle their differences on the battlefield, Israel, not the 
Arab world, would win. The military record of four previous 
conflicts does not lie. Arafat should remember who saved him in 
Lebanon; it was no power in the Middle East that brokered his 
exodus and parted the waves of Israeli planes and tanks for his 
safe passage to the desert. 
The Muslim world suffers from political amnesia, we now have 
learned, and so has forgotten not only Arafat's resurrection but 
also American help to beleaguered Afghans, terrified Kuwaitis, 
helpless Kurds and Shiites, starving Somalis and defenseless 
Bosnians--direct intervention that has cost the United States 
much more treasure and lives than mere economic aid for Israel 
ever did. They forget; but we remember the Palestinians cheering 
in Nablus hours after thousands of our innocents were 
incinerated in New York, the hagiographic posters of a mass 
murderer in the streets of Muslim capitals, and the smug 
remonstrations of Saudi prince Alwaleed to Mayor Rudy Giuliani 
at Ground Zero. 
Saudi and Kuwaiti Westernized elites find psychological comfort 
in their people's anti-American rhetoric, not out of real 
grievance but perhaps as reassurance that their own appetite for 
all things Western doesn't constitute rejection of their 
medieval religion or their 13th-century caliphate. Their 
apologists in the United States dissemble when they argue that 
these Gulf sheikhs are forced to master a doublespeak for 
foreign consumption, or that they are better than the 
frightening alternative, or that they are victims of unfair 
American anger that is ignorant of Wahhabi custom. 
In their present relationship with the terrorists, these old-
fashioned autocrats are neutrals only in the sense that they now 
play the cagier role of Franco's Spain to Hitler's Germany. They 
aid and abet our enemies, but never overtly. If the United 
States prevails, the Saudis can proclaim that they were always 
with us; should we lose a shooting war with the terrorists, the 
princes can swear that their prior neutrality really constituted 
allegiance to radical Islam all along. 
 
In matters of East-West relations, immigration has always been a 
one-way phenomenon. Thousands flocked to Athens and Rome; few 
left for Parthia or Numidia unless to colonize or exploit. 
People sneak into South, not North, Korea--in the same manner 
that few from Hong Kong once braved gunfire to reach Beijing 
(unless to invest and profit). Few Israeli laborers are going to 
the West Bank to seek construction jobs. In this vein is the 
Muslim world's longing for the very soil of America. Even in the 
crucible of war, we have discovered that our worst critics love 
us in the concrete as much as they hate us in the abstract. 
For all the frothing, it seems that millions of our purported 
enemies wish to visit, study or (better yet) live in the United 
States--and this is true not just of Westernized professors or 
globetrotting tycoons but of hijackers, terrorists, the children 
of the Taliban, the offspring of Iranian mullahs and the spoiled 
teenage brats of our Gulf critics. The terrorists visited lap 
dancers, took out frequent-flier miles, spent hours on the 
Internet, had cell phones strapped to their hips and hobnobbed 
in Las Vegas--parasitic on a culture not their own, fascinated 
with toys they could not make, and always ashamed that their 
lusts grew more than they could be satisfied. Until September 
11, their ilk had been like fleas on a lazy, plump dog, gnashing 
their tiny proboscises to gain bloody nourishment or inflict 
small welts on a distracted host who found them not worth the 
scratch. 
This dual loathing and attraction for things Western is 
characteristic of the highest echelon of the terrorists 
themselves, often Western-educated, English-speaking and hardly 
poor. Emblematic is the evil genius of al Qaeda, the sinister 
Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri. He grew up in Cairo affluence, his family 
enmeshed in all the Westernized institutions of Egypt. 
Americans find this Middle Eastern cultural schizophrenia 
maddening, especially in its inability to fathom that all the 
things that Muslim visitors profess to hate--equality of the 
sexes, cultural freedom, religious tolerance, egalitarianism, 
free speech and secular rationalism--are precisely what give us 
the material things that they want in the first place. CDs and 
sexy bare midriffs are the fruits of a society that values 
freedom, unchecked inquiry and individual expression more than 
the dictates of state or church; wild freedom and wild 
materialism are part of the American character. So bewildered 
Americans now ask themselves: Why do so many of these anti-
Americans, who profess hatred of the West and reverence for the 
purity of an energized Islam or a fiery Palestine, enroll in 
Chico State or UCLA instead of madrassas in Pakistan or military 
academies in Iraq? 
The embarrassing answer would explain nearly everything, from 
bin Laden to the intifada. Dads and moms who watch al-Jazeera 
and scream in the street at the Great Satan really would prefer 
that their children have dollars, an annual CAT scan, a good 
lawyer, air conditioning and Levis in American hell than be 
without toilet paper, suffer from intestinal parasites, deal 
with the secret police, and squint with uncorrected vision in 
the Islamic paradise of Cairo, Tehran and Gaza. Such a 
fundamental and intolerable paradox in the very core of a man's 
heart--multiplied millions of times over--is not a healthy thing 
either for them or for us, as we have learned since September 
11. 
 
Most Americans recognize and honor the past achievements of 
Islamic civilization and the contribution of Middle Eastern 
immigrants to the United States and Europe, as well as the 
traditional hospitality shown visitors to the Muslim world. And 
so we have long shown patience with those who hate us, and more 
curiosity than real anger. 
But that was then, and this is now. A two-kiloton explosion that 
incinerated thousands of our citizens--planned by Middle 
Easterners with the indirect financial support of purportedly 
allied governments, the applause of millions, and the snickering 
and smiles of millions more--has had an effect that grows not 
wanes. 
So a neighborly bit of advice for our Islamic friends and their 
spokesmen abroad: topple your pillars of ignorance and the 
edifice of your anti-Americanism. Try to seek difficult answers 
from within to even more difficult questions without. Do not 
blame others for problems that are largely self-created or seek 
solutions over here when your answers are mostly at home. 
Please, think hard about what you are saying and writing about 
the deaths of thousands of Americans and your relationship with 
the United States. 
America has been a friend more often than not to you. But now 
you are on the verge of turning its people--who create, not 
follow, government--into an enemy: a very angry and powerful 
enemy that may be yours for a long, long time to come. 
Mr. Hanson, a military historian, is author most recently 
of "Carnage and Culture" (Doubleday 2002) and a contributing 
editor of City Journal, in whose Winter issue this article 
appears. 


From: Facts Finders
To: Merlyn
Date: Mon Feb 25 20:10:28 2002

Message:
Wow, that was a long write up, Are you a journalist or 
bookwriter. Very true what you wrote.

From: SISTER,SISTER,SISTER
To: ALL
Date: Tue Feb 26 04:02:55 2002

Message:
in the weeks since september 11th Muslimsall around the world 
have witnessed the deep resentment harboured by the kuffar 
towards islam and the muslims.It comes as no surprise however 
that the kuffar are only to eager to join the new crusade 
against islam.It appears that the kuffar today have responded 
more enthusiastically to the call of pope Urban II than their 
predecessors 900 years ago.In 1095 the pope declared:   GOD 
EXORTS YOU AS HERALDS OF CHRIST...TO HASTEN TO EXTERMINATE THIS 
VILE RACE(MUSLIMS) FROM OUR LANDS AND TO AID THE CHRISTIAN 
INHABITANTS IN TIME...OH WHAT A DISGRACE IF A RACE SO 
DESPICABLE,DEGENERATE AND ENSLAVED BY DEMONS SHOULD THUS 
OVERCOME A PEOPLE ENDOWED WITH FAITH IN ALMIGHTY GOD AND 
RESPLENDENT IN THE NAME OF CHRIST!
Today it is Afganistan.Yesterday it was 
Lebanon,Egypt,Iran,Libya,Chechnya,and the Baulkans just to name 
a few.Even to this day the handiwork of the original crusaders 
continues in Palestine and Iraq.But as the bombs continue to 
pound the Muslims in Afganistan and around the world it is high 
time that the Ummah reflect on the current campaign and heed the 
call of Islam.
The current war on terrorism is nothing but a war on Islam and 
the Muslims.Despite the continued insistence by Bush and Blair 
that the current campaign is not aimed at Islam or Muslims,you 
only have to look to the children of 
Iraq,Palestine,Chechyna,Kashmir or the Baulkans to realise the 
emptiness of their rhetoric. 
Whilst military operations may prove a ratings(and election)
winner with a simplistic and uninitiated audience,the current 
campaign against Islam is far wider and more dangerous than a 
simple military operation.As such,the new crusade has the 
following objectives:

1.The physical and material attack against the Muslims serves to 
terrify the Ummah into submission,and the puppet rulers into 
compliance.
2.America is seeking to destroy the military capability of the 
Ummah.This has started with Afganistan,but America and Britian 
have indicated that Afganistan is just the first phase.
3.America has had her eyes on the oil fields of the Caucasus 
even before the downfall of the USSR.The Middle East whilst 
still rich in oil is too unstable and cannot be relied upon as 
an only source.America needs an alternative energy source and 
the current Bush administration,immersed with former oil 
tycoons,has unashamedly made this an American imperative.
4.It is well known that there is a huge Islamic resurgence in 
Central Asia.It is also well known that Hizb ut-Tahrir,which 
calls for the re-establishment of the Islamic State,is the 
leading political party in that region.Despite extreme 
cruelty,herrendous tortue and state executions,tyrant rulers 
such as Karimov have failed dismally in their effort to halt the 
advance of Islam.By establishing military bases in the 
Caucasus,America is able to intervene directly in the war 
against Islam and trample any potential establishment of the 
Islamic State.
5.Declaring a war on terrorism provides a convenient pretext for 
America to entrnch her troops in the Caucasus(oranywhere else 
for that matter).America is thus able to exert her influence and 
control over the resources in that region,and subseqently,is 
able to impose itself on its old rival Russia,and to check the 
global ambitions of the oil-starved China.
6.As disturbing as the above may be,the most dangerous strategy 
is the attack on Islam itself.Islam is a Deen-a way of life.It 
is not a religion concerned only with the hereafter.The creed of 
Islam gives rise to an entire system of life,with comprehensive 
rules,methods and concepts for organising and satisfiying 
completely the needs of man,society and life.It is an 
alternative and superior way of life in which America and the 
west,despite Capitalism's claims to the contrary,dare not 
compete with and therefore cannot permit to exist.Allah(swt)says
(in closest meaning):
IT IS HE WHO HAS SENT HIS MESSENGER WITH GUIDANCE AND THE DEEN 
OF TRUTH,SO THAT IT MAY PRVAIL OVER ALL OTHER WAYS EVEN THOUGH 
THE MUSHRIKOUN(DISBELEIVERS)HATE IT"[TMQ AT-TAUBAH9:33]
The west therefore attempts to distort or remove the concepts 
and rules of Islam,such as ruling by Islam,the Khilafah and 
Jihad.They attempt to remove all the ideological and political 
elements-thereby secularising the Deen and removing its presence 
from lifes affairs.The end result,they hope is the absence of 
guidance on matters of ruling and implementation of 
Islam,thereby rendering the Ummah incapable of looking afterher 
own affairs.But Allah(swt)says(in closest meaning)
"THEY(THE DISBELEIVERS,JEWS AND CHRISTIANS)WANT TO EXTINGUISH 
ALLAH'SLIGHTWITH THEIR MOUTHS,BUT ALLAH WILL NOT ALLOW EXCEPT 
THAT HIS LIGHT SHOULD BE PERFECTED EVEN THOUGH THE KAFIROUN
(DISBELEIVERS)HATE IT"[TMQ AT-TAUBAH9:32]
The puppet rulers arrest,torture and murder the carriers of Islam
(the da 'i).They try to strike fear in the hearts of the 
believers and instill a feeling of hopelessness and inferiority 
in the hope that we may turn away from our Islam.But the sincere 
Muslim will never turn their back on Islam,for Allah(swt)says(in 
closest meaning)
"DO NOT FEAR THEM AND FEAR ME IF YOU ARE TRUE BELEIVERS"[TMQ ALE-
IMRAN3:175]
Today,we see Bush and Blair-the enemies of Islam-making 
insulting and crude attempts to teach this noble Ummah their 
Deen.They have tried to use the holy verses of the Quran and the 
noble hadiths of the Prophet Muhammad(saw)to justifytheir 
slaughter of Muslims and legitimse their actions in 
Afganista