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From: Noam The Mujahadeen Bone
To: all you idiot yanks!
Subject: Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust And another cunt gone, and another cunt gone,Another cunt bites the dust Hey, I m gonna get you too Another TWENTY FOUR (24) fat geographically challenged, sexually repressed, cunts bite the dust -:D
Date: Fri Dec 31 00:13:35 2004

Message:
Twenty four Seppo Cunts break and enter a house in a Fallujah 
street, With the 
brim pulled way down low Ain t no sound but the sound of his 
feet, Machine guns ready to go Are you ready, are you ready for 
this Are you hanging on the edge of your seat Out of the doorway 
the bullets rip To the sound of the beat http://www.toad.com/ 
Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust And 
another cunt gone, and another cunt gone Another cunt bites the 
dust Hey, I m gonna get you too Another cunt bites the dust How 
do you think I m going to get along, Without you, when you re 
gone You took me for everything that I had, And kicked me out on 
my own Are you happy, are you satisfied How long can you stand 
the heat Out of the doorway the bullets rip To the sound of the 
beat Chorus Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the 
dust Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust 
There are plenty of ways you can hurt a cunt And bring him to 
the ground You can beat him You can cheat him You can rape him 
bad and leave him When he s down But I m ready, yes I m ready 
for you I m standing on my own two feet Out of the doorway the 
bullets rip Repeating the sound of the beat la la 
la....http://www.toad.com/ http://www.boycottusa.org Mujahideen 
Blow Up House In Fallujah, Reportedly Killing 24 American 
Soldiers

Free Arab Voice | December 29 2004

Based on eyewitness reports, Mujahideen detonated explosives 
that blasted apart the house that US soldiers were searching in 
the city. According to the correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam 
in Fallujah, the Mujahideen had planted 500kg of TNT as well as 
the high explosive  Austrian  bombs inside the house, located in 
the al-Wahdah neighborhood. Mujahideen forces attracted the US 
forces to the house by making them think that a number of 
fighters were barricaded in it. The Mujahideen then detonated 
the explosives in the 450 square meter building when the 
Americans entered the building to investigate. The blast 
reportedly killed 24 American troops in addition to seven others 
whose bodies had not been extracted from the rubble when the 
correspondent submitted his report, posted at 2:30pm Mecca time 
Tuesday 

US Arrests 50; Three Iraqi Girls Taken

On Monday and Tuesday, the Americans arrested about 50 Iraqi 
young men, even though they had received passes from the US 
occupation forces allowing them to enter Fallujah to work on 
their houses. The correspondent reported that on Tuesday, the 
Americans arrested three Iraqi girls, all sisters, aged 19, 20 
and 21 years. The US forces expelled their father and their 
brother and took the girls to an unknown destination. Their 
family had been trying to return to their homes in Fallujah to 
survey the damage that had been done to their house by the US 
assault.

Mujahideen Pounds US Al-Habbaniyah Base

At 10am Tuesday morning Iraqi Mujahideen force unleashed a 
rocket barrage on the huge US base in al-Habbaniyah, near 
Fallujah. Eyewitnesses told Mafkarat al-Islam that about 33 
Ababil, Tariq, and Grad rockets blasted into the US facility, 
destroying a large number of fuel storage tanks. The tanks 
continued to burn for a long time after the attack, according to 
the Mafkarat al-Islam correspondent, whose report was posted at 
2:10pm Mecca time (3:10pm local time) Tuesday.

US helicopters took part in efforts to extinguish the roaring 
flames, but in the process three helicopters crashed, one of 
them a Cobra. Eight Mujahideen were martyred when US aircraft 
attacked their positions and destroyed their rocket launcher. 
The fire also set a nearby park ablaze in the al-Halabisah area 
not far from the camp.

From: Noam the Life-Giveth-And-Life-Taketh-Away Bone
To: all you filthy fucking Pomsa and IDIOT yanks who are FAT and SEXUALLY REPRESSED : I HOPE YOU ALL DIE HORRIBLE DEATHS LIKE THOSE DEPICTED HERE AT THIS WONDERFUL (and erotic) WEBSITE:http://cryptome.org/im04/pict529.jpg
Subject: British soldier found dead in Iraq-Suicide is painless Suicide is painless Suicide is painless Suicide is painless Suicide is painless
Date: Tue Dec 28 23:03:18 2004

Message:
A British soldier in Iraq has been found shot dead, the 
Ministry of Defence in London said, with the wound thought to 
have been self-inflicted.
http://www.humiliateamerica.com
Sergeant Paul Connolly, 33, from the Royal Electrical and 
Mechanical Engineers, was discovered at Shaibah Logistic Base 
near the southern city of Basra on Sunday, the ministry said in 
a statement.

"His death is being investigated by the Royal Military Police 
but initial inquiries do not indicate hostile action or other 
suspicious circumstances," the statement said, indicating 
suicide was suspected.

Sergeant Connolly, who had served with the regiment since 1989, 
was separated with three children, the statement added.

-AFP
Through early morning fog I see 
Visions of the things to be 
The pains that are withheld for me 
I realize and I can see 

That suicide is painless 
It brings on many changes 
And I can take or leave it if I please 

The game of life is hard to play 
I'm Gonna to lose it anyway 
The losing card I'll someday lay 
So this is all I have to say

Suicide is painless 
It brings on many changes 
And I can take or leave it if I please

The sword of time will peirce our skin
It doesnt hurt when it begins
But as it works its way on in
The pain grows stronger watch it grin

Suicide is painless 
It brings on many changes 
And I can take or leave it if I please

A brave man once requested me
To answer questions that are key
Is it to be or not to be
And i replied oh why ask me

That suicide is painless 
It brings on many changes 
And I can take or leave it if I please

And you can do the same thing if you please

From: Noam The Alive and Well Bone
To: all you seppos that got injured in Iraq: Suffer!
Subject: http://cryptome.org/im04/pict529.jpg
Date: Tue Dec 28 00:26:43 2004

Message:
http://cryptome.org/im04/pict529.jpg

COOLPICS

From: Noam The Alive and Well Bone
To: all you arrogant fat yanks sitting at home watching your brothers die futiley in Iraq while scoffing down cheesebirgers and coke!
Subject: Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust And another cunt gone, and another cunt gone,Another cunt bites the dust Hey, I m gonna get you too Another TWO (2) fat geographically challenged, sexually repressed, cunts bite the dust - WOO HO
Date: Tue Dec 28 00:17:55 2004

Message:
- Roadside bombs kills two US soldiers in Iraq (Roadside bombs 
kills two US soldiers in Iraq) 
Two Seppo Cunts walk warily down the Baghdad street, With the 
brim pulled way down low Ain t no sound but the sound of his 
feet, Machine guns ready to go Are you ready, are you ready for 
this Are you hanging on the edge of your seat Out of the doorway 
the bullets rip To the sound of the beat http://www.toad.com/ 
Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust And 
another cunt gone, and another cunt gone Another cunt bites the 
dust Hey, I m gonna get you too Another cunt bites the dust How 
do you think I m going to get along, Without you, when you re 
gone You took me for everything that I had, And kicked me out on 
my own Are you happy, are you satisfied How long can you stand 
the heat Out of the doorway the bullets rip To the sound of the 
beat Chorus Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the 
dust Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust 
There are plenty of ways you can hurt a cunt And bring him to 
the ground You can beat him You can cheat him You can rape him 
bad and leave him When he s down But I m ready, yes I m ready 
for you I m standing on my own two feet Out of the doorway the 
bullets rip Repeating the sound of the beat la la 
la....http://www.toad.com/ http://www.boycottusa.org Roadside 
bombs kills two US soldiers in Iraq
Roadside bombs have killed two United States soldiers and 
wounded five in two separate blasts in Iraq, the US military has 
said.

An attack on a US military patrol in Samarra, about 100 
kilometres north of the capital, killed one soldier and wounded 
another overnight, it said in a statement. 

A second soldier was killed and four wounded by another blast in 
Baghdad early on Monday morning, it said.

"An improvised explosive device detonated at approximately 
7:45am (local time) Monday, killing one soldier and wounding 
four others," the statement said. 

The statements gave no further details. 

Roadside bombs are a weapon of choice for guerrillas fighting US 
forces in Iraq. 

-Reuters/AFPhttp://www.dubyaspeak.com 
 

From: Noam The Glad-I'm-Not-An-American-Soldier-Eating-Lunch Bone
To: ha ha THAT IS POETRY!! Thanks ansar_alsunnah_army!!!
Subject: It's a pretty good video! It's got tension, drama, explosions (of course!)..I like how your waiting and waiting (ooo anticipation!) for it to happen- then it DOES!! YAY!!:D http://www.ogrish.com/archives/ansar_alsunnah_army_posts_video_of_mosul_attack_on_us_base_Dec_26_2004.html
Date: Fri Oct 29 23:08:41 2004

Message:
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/ansar_alsunnah_army_posts_video_o
f_mosul_attack_on_us_base_Dec_26_2004.html


THAT IS POETRY!! Thanks ansar_alsunnah_army!!! 

From: Noam The Festive Bone
To: merry Xmas to all those soldiers DYING in riaq and their MORBIDLY OBESE family back home in SHITSVILLE (uSSa)!!! ha ha suffer you CUNTS
Subject: Insurgents have fired mortars at the chow hall more than 30 times this year. One round killed a female soldier with the 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division in the summer as she scrambled for cover in one of the concrete bomb shelters. Workers are building a new steel and concrete chow hall for the soldiers just down the dusty dirt road.
Date: Sat Dec 25 02:39:22 2004

Message:
Insurgents have fired mortars at the chow hall more than 30 
times this year. One round killed a female soldier with the 3rd 
Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division in the summer as she scrambled 
for cover in one of the concrete bomb shelters. Workers are 
building a new steel and concrete chow hall for the soldiers 
just down the dusty dirt road. 

 

Reporter Provides Account of Mosul Attack 

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 

Published: December 21, 2004 

Filed at 11:25 a.m. ET 

FORWARD OPERATING BASE MAREZ, Iraq (AP) -- It was a brilliant, 
sunny day with blue skies and warmer than usual weather in the 
northern Iraqi city of Mosul. Hundreds of U.S. soldiers had 
just sat down for lunch in their giant chow hall tent. 

It was about noon Tuesday when insurgents hit their tent with a 
suspected rocket attack, killing 13 soldiers, including two 
from the Richmond-based 276th Engineer Battalion. More than 50 
were wounded; civilians may have been among them. 

The force of the explosions knocked soldiers off their feet and 
out of their seats. A fireball enveloped the top of the tent, 
and shrapnel sprayed into the men. 

Amid the screaming and thick smoke that followed, quick-
thinking soldiers turned their lunch tables upside down, placed 
the wounded on them and gently carried them into the parking 
lot. 

``Medic! Medic! soldiers shouted. 

Medics rushed into the tent and hustled the rest of the wounded 
out on stretchers. 

Scores of troops crammed into concrete bomb shelters outside. 
Others wobbled around the tent and collapsed, dazed by the 
blast. 

``I can hear! I can hear! one female soldier cried as a friend 
hugged her. 

Near the front entrance to the chow hall, troops tended a 
soldier with a gaping head wound. Within minutes, they zipped 
him into a black body bag. Three more bodies were in the 
parking lot. 

The military asked that the dead not be identified until 
families could be notified. 

Soldiers scrambled back into the hall to check for more 
wounded. The explosions blew out a huge hole in the roof of the 
tent. Puddles of bright red blood, lunch trays and overturned 
tables and chairs covered the floor. 

Grim-faced soldiers growled angrily about the attack as they 
stomped away. 

``Mother (expletive-I guess it is FUCKER I myself, would have 
preferred the word "CUNT" of course;))! one mumbled. 

Sgt. Evan Byler, of the 276th, steadied himself on one of the 
concrete bomb shelters. He was eating chicken tenders and 
macaroni when the bomb hit. The blast knocked him out of his 
chair. When the smoke cleared, Byler took off his shirt and 
wrapped it around a seriously wounded soldier. 

Byler held the bloody shirt in his hand, not quite sure what to 
do with it. 

``It's not the first close call I have had here, said Byler, a 
Fauquier County, Va., resident who survived a blast from an 
improvised explosive device while riding in a vehicle earlier 
this year. 

Byler started walking back to his base when he spotted a 
soldier collapse from shock on the side of the road. Byler and 
Lt. Shawn Otto, also of the 276th, put the grieving soldier on 
a passing pickup truck. 

The 276th, with about 500 troops, had made it a year without 
losing a soldier and is preparing to return home in about a 
month. 

``We almost made it. We almost made it to the end without 
getting somebody killed, Otto said glumly. 

At least two other soldiers with the 276th were injured, but it 
was not clear how serious their wounds are. 

Insurgents have fired mortars at the chow hall more than 30 
times this year. One round killed a female soldier with the 3rd 
Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division in the summer as she scrambled 
for cover in one of the concrete bomb shelters. Workers are 
building a new steel and concrete chow hall for the soldiers 
just down the dusty dirt road. 

Lt. Dawn Wheeler, a member of the 276th from Centreville, Va., 
was waiting in line for chicken tenders when a round hit on the 
other side of a wall from her. A soldier who had been standing 
beside her was on the ground, struggling with shrapnel buried 
deep in his neck. 

``We all have angels on us, she said as she pulled away in a 
Humvee. 

Wheeler quickly joined other officers from the 276th for an 
emergency meeting minutes after the blast. 

Maj. James Zollar, the unit acting commander, spoke to more 
than a dozen of his officers in a voice thick with emotion. He 
urged them to keep their troops focused on their missions. 

``This is a tragic, tragic thing for us but we still have 
missions, he told them. ``It's us, the leaders, who have to 
pull them together.

Just hours before the blast, Zollar had awarded a Purple Heart 
to a soldier from the 276th who was wounded in a mortar attack 
on another part of the base in October. 

Zollar eventually turned the emergency meeting over to Chaplain 
Eddie Barnett. He led the group in prayer. 

``Help us now, God, in this time of this very tragic 
circumstance,   Barnett said. ``We pray for your healing upon 
our wounded soldiers. 

Attack on U.S. Base in Mosul Kills 22 

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 

Published: December 21, 2004 

Filed at 11:17 a.m. ET 

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Rockets struck a mess tent at a military 
base in Mosul where hundreds of U.S. soldiers had just sat down 
to lunch Tuesday, and a Pentagon official said at least 22 
people were killed and 50 were wounded. 

A radical Muslim group, the Ansar al-Sunnah Army, claimed 
responsibility. 

The attack came the same day that British Prime Minister Tony 
Blair made a surprise visit to Baghdad and described the 
ongoing violence in Iraq as a ``battle between democracy and 
terror.

Jeremy Redmon, a reporter for the Richmond, Va., Times-Dispatch 
embedded with the troops in Mosul, said 13 soldiers were killed 
in the attack at Forward Operating Base Marez, including two 
from the Richmond-based 276th Engineer Battalion. More than 50 
people were wounded, and civilians may have been among them, he 
said. 

The base, also known as the al-Ghizlani military camp, is used 
by both U.S. troops and the interim Iraqi government's security 
forces The identities of the casualties were not known, the 
Pentagon official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. 

The U.S. Army Task Force Olympia is based in this predominantly 
Sunni Muslim city, about 220 miles north of Baghdad. 

With heads hung low, the soldiers trudged outside. They had 
work to do. 

by : AP 
Thursday 23rd December 2004 

From: Noam The Glad-I'm-Not-An-american-Soldier Bone
To: all you fat idiot fucking yanks who think they can police the world!!!
Subject: Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust And another cunt gone, and another cunt gone,Another cunt bites the dust Hey, I m gonna get you too Another NINETEEN (19) fat geographically challenged, sexually repressed, cunts bite the dust - WOO HOO "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED", "BRING IT ON" and other buSShy cliches!!!!Nineteen US soldiers killed in Mo (Nineteen US soldiers killed in Mosul)
Date: Wed Dec 22 02:54:23 2004

Message:
Nineteen US soldiers killed in Mosul
Nineteen US soldiers and three others have been killed after an 
explosion in a dining hall at a coalition military base in the 
Iraqi city of Mosul and investigators are examining whether it 
was the work of a suicide bomber.

An army official says the toll has made it the single deadliest 
incident involving American forces in the Iraq war, which 
started with a US-led invasion in March 2003.

The official, who asked not to be named, said the three others 
killed were not US citizens but did not give their 
nationalities. 

He added that 57 people were wounded. 

The official said US military investigators were trying to 
determine whether the midday explosion in the tented dining hall 
at Forward Operating Base Marez, a huge camp built around 
Mosul's airfield, was caused by a suicide bomber or by a rocket 
attack. 

"A suicide bomber has not been ruled out," the official said. 

"Several sources indicated it may have been a suicide bomber but 
it's more likely it was indirect fire" in the form of a rocket 
or mortar attack that made a direct hit on the dining hall, the 
official said. 

US Defence officials initially said the incident involved a 
number of rocket and mortar rounds fired at the base, but the 
top US commander in northern Iraq later said a single massive 
explosion had taken place, and that the cause was under 
investigation. 

-Reuters

In other developments:
At least 22 people were killed and 50 others wounded in a rocket 
and mortar attack against a US military base in the northern 
Iraqi city of Mosul, a Pentagon official said. (Full Story) 
United States President George W Bush has condemned the 
overnight attack on a coalition base in the northern Iraqi city 
of Mosul, which has killed more than 20 people. (Full Story) 
http://www.antiamerica.com
Nineteen Seppo Cunts eat lunch in tent, With the
brim pulled way down low Ain t no sound but the sound of his
gnashing fat jowls, Machine guns ready to go Are you ready, are 
you ready for
this Are you hanging on the edge of your seat Out of the
doorway the bullets rip To the sound of the beat
http://www.toad.com/ Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt
bites the dust And another cunt gone, and another cunt gone
Another cunt bites the dust Hey, I m gonna get you too Another
cunt bites the dust How do you think I m going to get along,
Without you, when you re gone You took me for everything that I
had, And kicked me out on my own Are you happy, are you
satisfied How long can you stand the heat Out of the doorway
the bullets rip To the sound of the beat Chorus Another cunt
bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites
the dust Another cunt bites the dust There are plenty of ways
you can hurt a cunt And bring him to the ground You can beat
him You can cheat him You can rape him bad and leave him When
he s down But I m ready, yes I m ready for you I m standing on
my own two feet Out of the doorway the bullets rip 
 

From: Noam the Alive Bone
To: all the fuckhead idiot moronic fat sexually starved CUNTS that are called SEPPOS and YANKS You know the DUMB FUCKS!!!!;)
Subject: 6 More Marines Die In Fallujah - Virtual News Blackout
Date: Mon Dec 20 22:13:51 2004

Message:
6 More Marines Die In Fallujah - Virtual News Blackout 
US Does Not Recommend Residents Return
  By Dorothy Anne Seese
12-19-4
 
NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq (AFP) - The US military cannot recommend to 
the Iraqi interim government the return of residents to 
Fallujah, where insurgents are still holed out in the battle-
scarred city. 
  
"At some point we'll make a recommendation, we haven't reached 
that point," Lieutenant Colonel Dan Wilson, a deputy commander 
of the First Marine Expeditionary Force, told reporters in a 
military base near Fallujah late on Friday. 
http://www.boycottusa.org  
Thousands fled Fallujah last month ahead of a massive US-led 
onslaught to wrest control of the city from Sunni Muslim 
insurgents and the fighting has left much of it in ruins. 
  http://www.boycottusa.org
The Iraqi interim government said on Thursday that residents 
could begin returning to the city, west of Baghdad, as early as 
next week, saying that basic services and aid had been 
restored. 
  
But US Marines, backed by a small Iraqi force, are still trying 
to crush the remaining insurgents holed up in the city. 
  http://www.boycottusa.org
"We foresaw that in this phase of the operation it could take 
weeks to clear out the remaining pockets (of insurgents). We 
did anticipate such difficulties ... but we never tied this to 
a timeline," the officer said. 
  
"There is a lot of potential for danger in this town," he 
added. 
  
"Unfortunately the insurgents are not cooperating like we would 
like them too, and we have to either capture them or kill 
them," he said. 
  
Iraq's interim minister of Industry and Mineral Resources Hajem 
al-Hassani told AFP on Friday that Fallujah's displaced 
residents "could return before the end of the month". 
  
He also played down the impact of fighting in the city, 
describing it as "small confrontations". 
  
Wilson said the marines "would really like to see it (the 
return) happen as quickly as possible. 
  
"But not at the risk of the lives of the citizens and 
inhabitants of Fallujah." 
  
But he added: "This transition is not going to happen 
overnight."   
Some US officers complained that the recruitment of Iraqi 
troops was moving at a slow pace and that the quality of the 
forces was not up to par.   
But according to Major Jim West of the First Marine 
Expeditionary Force "every day that goes by, the Iraqi national 
forces are getting better, stronger, and in parallel the Iraqi 
insurgents are getting weaker." 
  
West and Wilson insisted however that fighting that broke out 
Friday in Fallujah, which left six marines dead, was not an 
example failure. 
  
"We are not talking of a setback, but just about insurgents 
hiding in houses for a chance to kill a soldier," Wilson said.
 *** -AFPhttp://www.humiliateamerica.com
Six Seppo Cunts walk warily down the Baghdad street, With the 
brim pulled way down low Ain t no sound but the sound of his 
feet, Machine guns ready to go Are you ready, are you ready for 
this Are you hanging on the edge of your seat Out of the 
doorway the bullets rip To the sound of the beat 
http://www.toad.com/ Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt 
bites the dust And another cunt gone, and another cunt gone 
Another cunt bites the dust Hey, I m gonna get you too Another 
cunt bites the dust How do you think I m going to get along, 
Without you, when you re gone You took me for everything that I 
had, And kicked me out on my own Are you happy, are you 
satisfied How long can you stand the heat Out of the doorway 
the bullets rip To the sound of the beat Chorus Another cunt 
bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites 
the dust Another cunt bites the dust There are plenty of ways 
you can hurt a cunt And bring him to the ground You can beat 
him You can cheat him You can rape him bad and leave him When 
he s down But I m ready, yes I m ready for you I m standing on 
my own two feet Out of the doorway the bullets rip Repeating 
the sound of the beat la la la....http://www.toad.com/ 
 http://www.boycottusa.org

From: Noam The Cunt Bone
To: all you ass-licking buSSh loving cunts in seppoland
Subject: George w bush :CUNT OF THE CENTURY!!!-go here for proof!:www.supportthetruth.com/ Go on! Great video and pics! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri Oct 29 23:08:41 2004

Message:
George w bush :CUNT OF THE CENTURY!!!-go here for 
proof!:www.supportthetruth.com/        Go on! Great video and 
pics! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: Noam The Glad-I'm-Not-Living-In-JewSSofameriKKKa Bone
To: all you starving seppos living off FOOD STAMPS: SUFFER YOU CUNTS now you know how the other third of the world lives because of your HEGEMONY!!!:D
Subject: Growing up in Atlanta, Lisa Gray didn't know a thing about food stamps. From time to time, the family did visit a food pantry, but to make a contribution, certainly not to pick up food for themselves.
Date: Sun Dec 19 20:50:10 2004

Message:
Growing up in Atlanta, Lisa Gray didn't know a thing about food 
stamps. From time to time, the family did visit a food pantry, 
but to make a contribution, certainly not to pick up food for 
themselves. 

She, her mother, father and brother did just fine on her dad's 
salary as an aerospace engineer. 

These days, however, Gray, a working mother of three, has 
joined a rapidly growing number of Americans who over the past 
four years have come to depend on both food stamps and food 
pantries. 

Gray, 31, earns $6.25 an hour at a Ballwin discount store and 
receives sporadic child support payments from the children's 
father. After she pays the $545 in monthly rent for a cramped, 
exceptionally neat two-bedroom, one-bath apartment surrounded 
by upscale homes, another $200 or so in utilities and then day 
care for her 4-year-old son, Gray says there's simply no money 
left for food. 

So to feed her family, Gray counts on her monthly allotment of 
food stamps and the brown paper bags stuffed with groceries 
from the Circle of Concern food pantry in Valley Park. 

Since 2000, Gray and more than 6 million other Americans have 
joined the ranks of the families who find it increasingly 
difficult to perform a most basic function - to put food on 
their tables. 

The economic indicators are numerous. 

After a seven-year decline, the number of Americans on food 
stamps has shot up 39 percent since 2000, according to federal 
statistics. Every state, except Hawaii, has felt the impact. In 
Arizona, food stamp rolls have increased 104 percent, in 
Nevada, 97 percent; Oregon, 79 percent; South Carolina, 68 
percent; Missouri, 65 percent. 

Texas has added nearly a million people to its food stamp rolls 
in only four years. 

Part of that increase was fueled by states' increased efforts 
to enroll a greater portion of people eligible for food stamps 
and the placement of people back onto the rolls who were 
knocked off during welfare reform. Most of it, however, social 
workers say, is the growing number of Americans unable to feed 
themselves without help. 

"Clearly, most of this is because of increased need," said 
Carol Adams, head of the Illinois Department of Social 
Services. Illinois has seen a 31 percent increase in the number 
of people on food stamps since 2000. 

Food banks see increased demand 

Meanwhile, the nation's network of food banks and food pantries 
say they are under intense pressure to meet the demand of 
hungry families, nearly half of them working. 

"We don't have enough hours in the day to serve everybody who 
comes in," said John Holmer, executive director of Metro 
Caring, a Denver food pantry that last year served 34,000 
people, half of whom were children. 

At the Circle of Concern in Valley Park, executive director 
Glen Koenen said that last month, the pantry served more than 
1,200 families, far beyond the pantry's capacity of 750 it 
established two years ago. 

America's Second Harvest, the nation's largest private network 
of food providers, served 23 million Americans in 2001, 6 
million more than the federal food stamp program, according to 
an independent study. 

With demand increasing at food pantries around the country as 
much as 10 percent, 20 percent, even 40 percent annually, the 
network is still probably serving more than the federal 
government, said Doug O'Brien, vice president for public policy 
and research for the organization. 

The families come to the pantries for the same reasons as Gray. 
By the time they pay the bills - housing, utilities, gas, 
clothes, prescription drugs - there is little or no money left 
for food. 

"It's hard, but when you have kids, you swallow your pride," 
said Gray, as she waited to see a counselor at Circle of 
Concern. 

Meanwhile, the U.S. Department of Agriculture announced in 
November than 36.3 million Americans, more than one of every 
10, is at risk of hunger. That figure was the highest number 
the agency has recorded since it began keeping a tally in 1995. 

The changing face of hunger in the U.S. 

What is driving those numbers is a convergence of three 
economic realities, realities that have changed the nature of 
hunger in America, say economists, social workers and those who 
help the needy. 

"In the 1980s, soup kitchens were urban and largely served a 
recipient base that was male, homeless, chronically unemployed 
with alcohol or other substance abuse often as a contributing 
factor," O'Brien said. "By 2001, one out of four persons was a 
child, 40 percent of them were working adults. What you're 
seeing is this dramatic shift in the face of hunger in 
America." 

Economists and others explain that many Americans, such as 
Sheryl Schmidt of Manchester, are still reeling from the 
recession that began in 2000 and was further exacerbated by the 
terrorist attacks on Sept. 11 the following year. 

"I can quickly think of three people who were making $130,000 a 
year in health care, and post 9/11, those jobs were gone," said 
Catherine D'amato, president and chief executive of the Greater 
Boston Food Bank. 

Since 2001, the nation has lost 2 million jobs. Even with the 
recent economic recovery, the country remains 585,000 jobs 
short of where it was in 2001, economists say. 

Schmidt, 49, was laid off two years ago from her job as a 
business office director. Schmidt decided to go back to school 
to retool for a changing economy. 

"I've always had a job, and I've always made halfway decent 
money for having just a high school diploma," Schmidt said. "I 
went back to school thinking that I was going to do better." 

But even after receiving an associate's degree from St. Louis 
Community College at Meramec, Schmidt still has not been able 
to find work. She and her 10-year-old daughter were forced to 
move in with her mother. And eventually Schmidt, like Gray, 
found herself in the food stamp program and a client of Circle 
of Concern. 

The human impact of the recession 

Across the country, there are signs that millions of Americans 
are still feeling the result of the recession, which peaked 
last year. 

At the Smith Chapel food bank in Logan, Ohio, for example, cars 
recently started lining up at 7:30 a.m. for the 9 a.m. opening 
of the facility. By the time the doors opened, residents in 
late-model vans, SUVs, pickups and cars stretched two miles 
long outside the facility. 

"Many, many metropolitan areas have not recovered those jobs 
that they lost from 2000 to 2003," said Russ Signorino, a labor 
analyst and vice president of United Way of Greater St. 
Louis. "Even though their unemployment rate is coming down, 
they have fewer jobs in their area than they did four years 
ago." 

Additionally, economists said, the unemployment rate doesn't 
really reflect true economic well-being. Many Americans work 
two jobs in order to make ends meet. If they lost one job, that 
may place them in the ranks of the working poor, but they don't 
show up as unemployed. 

Finally, in many cases, those people who have returned to 
work "are worse off now than they were when we were in official 
economic slowdown because they've been unemployed for so long," 
Signorino said. "It's one thing to lose your job and maybe have 
three months of pay in the bank. But when you're unemployed for 
a year or two and you no longer have the money in the bank, 
once you get a new job your income may not have declined, but 
your assets have." 

The second trend driving up hunger in America, economists say, 
is structural changes in the nation's economy. As the nation 
moves from an economy based on manufacturing to one based on 
service and retail, America is going through a structural 
change akin to the industrial revolution of the early 1990s. 
Consequently, millions of workers have been left on the 
sidelines or in jobs that pay much lower than their previous 
positions. 

"In the early 1900s, the country went from agriculture to 
manufacturing," said Alison Fraser, director of economic policy 
studies for the Heritage Foundation, a think tank in 
Washington. "So you saw a lot of displaced jobs as the skill 
sets required changed. We've got that same thing going on now. 

"Those people who would have gone into manufacturing or were in 
those manufacturing jobs, those people's worlds have changed 
quite dramatically. The pain in this transition is how do those 
people retool themselves and reposition themselves." 

Dennis Hoffman, labor market economist for the Illinois 
Department of Employment Security, said residents of the five 
Illinois counties in the St. Louis metropolitan area have been 
wrestling with the shift. 

There has been a rapid expansion in jobs in services, retail 
trades, construction and warehousing, with Hershey Foods Corp. 
the most recent addition in Madison County. 

"But part of the dilemma is that while the distribution jobs 
are good-paying jobs, they're not as good as the older 
manufacturing jobs," Hoffman said. 

The third trend, economists say, is that with housing, medical 
and home fuel costs rising much faster than the nation's 
salaries, many families, particularly low-income and the 
working poor, find themselves pushed onto an even lower 
economic rung. Consequently, what were once considered 
emergency services, such as food pantries and food stamps, have 
become vital everyday needs. 

"We used to call them emergency food pantries," Koenen in St. 
Louis said. "More and more often, it's what families have to do 
every month or five or six months a year." 

Food pantries see more working families 

Across the country, food banks and food pantries report that 
while they continue to serve significant populations of elderly 
and disabled on fixed incomes, their greatest growth has been 
among working families. 

"Folks simply don't have enough to get by and they are living 
in poverty while working," said Stacy Dean, director of food 
stamp policy for the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities in 
Washington. "It's a story that a lot of Americans don't 
understand, that Americans may be working two jobs, doing 
everything you expect them to do, and still living in poverty." 

Consequently, as families go about the hard choices of how to 
spread their meager resources, they place food at the bottom of 
the list. 

"Food is something we have a surplus of in this country," said 
Bill Bolling, executive director of the Atlanta Food Bank, 
which last year distributed more than 15 million pounds of food 
to 750 food pantries, child-care centers, nursing homes and 
other agencies in 38 counties. "We don't have a surplus of 
housing, health care, jobs or automobiles for people to get to 
jobs. 

"So, what often happens for families who are short of money is 
that they pay their rent, the power bill, put gas in the car, 
put shoes on the kids and go to the local pantry to get food." 

In Boston, D'amato said the harsh new economic realities "have 
institutionalized hunger in this country," by making it a 
common occurrence for people who go to work everyday. 

Back in the St. Louis area, Gray isn't sure when she, her 6-
year-old twins and her youngest son will see the day they don't 
need food stamps or the food pantry. 

She said she probably will accept an offer from her mother and 
father to pay for her to go back to college. 

"But right now, I just don't know," she said. "I just don't 
know." 

Steve Bolhafner of News Research contributed to this story. 

Reporter Ron Harris 
E-mail: rharris@post-dispatch.com 
Phone: 314-340-8214 Lisa Gray comforts her son Cody, 4, in 
their Ballwin apartment, Tuesday. Gray, a single working 
mother, relies on food stamps and a food pantry to help feed 
her family. 
(Andrew Cutraro/P-D)

From: superior person
To: lame yanks
Subject: LAME YANKS
Date: Sat Dec 18 22:13:34 2004

Message:
yanks are all fucked in the head and lame...so crap are their 
sitcoms..NOT FUNNY at all..what the fuck?  British are funny.  
ANyone else is funny..they make jokes about picking your nose 
and shit like that is SOOOO wrong!  and hilarious!  No ti s' 
not it is LAME>  AN dyour foreign policy is lame and you think 
you're the greatest..u have inferiority complex and you speak 
through your nose and it is REALLY ANNOYING@@@@!!!!

From: Noam The Living Bone
To: stupid fucking fat ignorant seppo CUNTS all over the fucking globe like a disease
Subject: Another cunt bites the dust,Another cunt bites the dust,And another cunt gone, and another cunt gone,Another cunt bites the dust,Hey, I m gonna get you too,Another EIGHT SEPPO cunts bites the dust!! - Seven marines assigned to the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force were killed in action -Another Marine was killed on Saturday. HA:D
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
(http://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comh
ttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhtt
) 
Seven marines assigned to the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force 
were killed in action in two separate operations on Sunday 
(local time), the Marines said in a statement which gave no 
further details. 
Another Marine was killed on Saturday. 
The fighting erupted in Fallujah after days of relative calm 
following last month's blistering assault on the Sunni Muslim 
city by US and Iraqi troops. 
Coalition troops killed hundreds of fighters during the attack, 
which began on No vember 8, but have continued to face 
resistance, often in parts of the city they had previously 
cleared. 
"They hole themselves up in houses and they wait for the chance 
to kill an American," said Lieutenant Rex McIntosh of the 3rd 
Battalion, 5th Marines. 
"We had very, very heavy contact against a group - you could 
call it a cell - which was bypassed in previous sweeping 
operations," Lieutenant McIntosh said. 
Marines told AFP that rebels were creeping back into previously 
cleared city blocks, and the military was in a race to seize 
weapons caches before they could be used against them. 
-AFPhttp://www.humiliateamerica.com
Eight Seppo Cunts walk warily down the Baghdad street, With the 
brim pulled way down low Ain t no sound but the sound of his 
feet, Machine guns ready to go Are you ready, are you ready for 
this Are you hanging on the edge of your seat Out of the 
doorway the bullets rip To the sound of the beat 
http://www.toad.com/ Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt 
bites the dust And another cunt gone, and another cunt gone 
Another cunt bites the dust Hey, I m gonna get you too Another 
cunt bites the dust How do you think I m going to get along, 
Without you, when you re gone You took me for everything that I 
had, And kicked me out on my own Are you happy, are you 
satisfied How long can you stand the heat Out of the doorway 
the bullets rip To the sound of the beat Chorus Another cunt 
bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites 
the dust Another cunt bites the dust There are plenty of ways 
you can hurt a cunt And bring him to the ground You can beat 
him You can cheat him You can rape him bad and leave him When 
he s down But I m ready, yes I m ready for you I m standing on 
my own two feet Out of the doorway the bullets rip Repeating 
the sound of the beat la la la....http://www.toad.com/ 
 

From: Noam The Glad-I'm-Not-An-American Bone
To: all the soon to be oppressed seppo scum that voted (or didn't) for that fucking braindead hick buSSh
Subject: Your Papers Please - US adopts National ID: Homeland Security Now In charge of Regulations for all US States Drivers Licenses and Birth Certificates In a chilling act more reminiscent of the now defunct Soviet Union or the Nazi regime of Adolph Hitler, - Stalin+Hitler = buSSh!!! THE NEW AMERICA!!!! (In a chilling act more reminiscent of the now defunct Soviet Union or the Nazi regime of Adolph Hitler,)
Date: Sun Dec 12 21:39:41 2004

Message:
Your Papers Please  - US adopts National ID: Homeland Security 
Now In charge of Regulations for all US States Drivers Licenses 
and Birth Certificates In a chilling act more reminiscent of 
the now defunct Soviet Union or the Nazi regime of Adolph 
Hitler, - Stalin+Hitler = buSSh!!! THE NEW AMERICA!!!! (In a 
chilling act more reminiscent of the now defunct Soviet Union 
or the Nazi regime of Adolph Hitler,) 
December 9, 2004

 Your Papers Please 

US adopts National ID: Homeland Security Now In charge of 
Regulations for all US States Drivers Licenses and Birth 
Certificates

By: Jonathan Wheeler
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/
In a chilling act more reminiscent of the now defunct Soviet 
Union or the Nazi regime of Adolph Hitler, the United States 
Congress passed legislation yesterday that requires the States 
to surrender their regulatory rights over driver s licenses and 
birth certificates to The Department of Homeland Security.

The massive US Intelligence Reform Bill weighed in at over 
3,000 pages and though unread by individual Members of either 
the House or Senate nevertheless passed all of the legislative 
hurdles needed in order to become law.

President Bush lobbied hard for these provisions, only 
objecting when Senator Sensenbrenner attempted to require these 
same provisions for illegal aliens but which the President 
opposed. This provision was dropped from the final bill.

Beginning in 2005, the Department of Homeland Security will 
issue new uniformity regulations to the States requiring that 
all Drivers Licenses and Birth Certificates meet minimal 
Federal Standards with regard to US citizen information, 
including biometric security provisions.

Added to currently existing Federal Laws and Supreme Court 
rulings American citizens when born will be issued a Social 
Security Number that will be included on their Birth 
Certificates, along with DNA biometric markers. All birth 
certificates will also be registered in a Federal Government 
database maintained by the Department of Homeland Security. No 
child will be allowed enrollment to schools or be entitled to 
either State of Federal Government benefits programs without 
first presenting a certified Homeland Security registered Birth 
Certificate.

Drivers Licenses will also contain DNA biometric markers and 
include the holders Social Security Number and be required for 
receiving and applying for all State and Federal benefits 
programs. Previous Supreme Court rulings have also upheld State 
and Federal Law Enforcement authorities right to request 
Identification from any American citizen, for any reason and at 
any time as not being violations of their, the citizens, 
constitutionally protected rights.

Major Banks and credit card companies have applauded the 
adoption of a National ID system as being important to counter 
fraud and increasing instances of identity theft. National ID 
cards with biometric markers will eliminate them from having to 
issue Credit and Debit cards, which for the first time in US 
history have surpassed the usage of checks and cash. Utilizing 
The Department of Homeland Securities centralized federal 
database, Banks and credit card companies will only require the 
presentation of a citizens Driver s License to make purchases 
as all of the persons financial information, including credit 
and cash balances, will already be known in  real time . 
 

From: Noam The ALIVE Bone
To: all the idiot fat fucking seppo poofters out there!
Subject: http://www.humiliateamerica.com A US soldier was killed on Saturday during an operation in Iraq's western Al Anbar province, which hosts the rebel hot spots of Fallujah and Ramadi.
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
http://www.humiliateamerica.com A US soldier was killed on 
Saturday during an operation in Iraq's western Al Anbar 
province, which hosts the rebel hot spots of Fallujah and 
Ramadi. 
http://www.humiliateamerica.com
Fighting erupted in Fallujah earlier on Saturday after days of 
relative calm following last month's blistering assault on the 
former rebel stronghold. 

US Marines clashed with insurgents in both the north and south 
of the city, which was largely emptied of people before the 
November 8 offensive. 

Eight coalition soldiers were also wounded on Saturday when 
insurgents attacked their convoy with mortar rounds, rocket-
propelled grenades and small arms fire in the northern Iraqi 
city of Mosul. 

The patrol was first hit by a car bomb and then came under 
concentrated fire. 

The soldiers called in air support, which dropped a 500 pound 
bomb on the attackers, the US Army said in a statement. 

The statement said the number of casualties among the attackers 
was unknown, adding that there were no reports of civilian 
casualties. 

It said the soldiers were on their way to secure a cache of 
illegal weapons and munitions in western Mosul, adding that the 
wounds of the eight soldiers were not life-threatening. 

Eyewitnesses told AFP that the coalition forces opened fire in 
all directions after the bomb blast, shooting at minibuses on 
the road, causing some to burst into flames. 
http://www.humiliateamerica.com
-AFP
Seppo Cunt walks warily down the Baghdad street,
With the brim pulled way down low
Ain t no sound but the sound of his feet,
Machine guns ready to go
Are you ready, are you ready for this
Are you hanging on the edge of your seat
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat
http://www.toad.com/
Another cunt bites the dust
Another cunt bites the dust
And another cunt gone, and another cunt gone
Another cunt bites the dust
Hey, I m gonna get you too
Another cunt bites the dust

How do you think I m going to get along,
Without you, when you re gone
You took me for everything that I had,
And kicked me out on my own

Are you happy, are you satisfied
How long can you stand the heat
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat

Chorus

Another cunt bites the dust
Another cunt bites the dust
Another cunt bites the dust
Another cunt bites the dust
There are plenty of ways you can hurt a cunt
And bring him to the ground
You can beat him
You can cheat him
You can rape him bad and leave him
When he s down
But I m ready, yes I m ready for you
I m standing on my own two feet
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
Repeating the sound of the beat
la la la....http://www.toad.com/

From: cunt
To: CUNTS
Subject: CUNT
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
and lots and lots of CUNT

From: noam the bone
To: all the seppos serving in Iraq: SUFFER YOU CUNTS!!! ha ha ha :D
Subject: Fighters have killed a police captain at a checkpoint and gunned down an Iraqi guardsman in a billiard hall in separate attacks against US-backed forces in northern Iraq.
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
Fighters have killed a police captain at a checkpoint and 
gunned down an Iraqi guardsman in a billiard hall in separate 
attacks against US-backed forces in northern Iraq. 

http://www.boycottusa.org
Police Captain Basam Ali Ahmad died of wounds a day after being 
shot on Thursday as he manned a checkpoint in Samarra, police 
said. 
http://www.boycottusa.org
Despite US-led forces mounting a major offensive against 
fighters in the city two months ago, frequent attacks continue. 
http://www.boycottusa.org
Further to the north, in the oil-refining town of Baiji, Ziyad 
Tariq, an off-duty member of the Iraqi National Guard, was shot 
dead on Friday by men who burst into a billiard hall armed with 
automatic rifles, police and hospital staff said. 
In Tikrit, six Iraqi national guardsmen were wounded after a 
explosive device was detonated next to their patrol.
Convoys targeted
In other incidents on Friday a man and a woman, both civilians, 
were injured near Baquba when a roadside bomb detonated as a 
convoy of Iraqi National Guard vehicles passed by. No guardsmen 
were injured, eyewitnesses said. 
A similar bomb also struck a US military convoy north of the 
city but caused little damage. 
Two civilians were hurt in a bomb
explosion near Baquba on Friday             -                
An explosion also caused a large fire near Baquba on an oil 
pipeline that runs from Khanaqin, on the Iranian border, to 
Baghdad's Dora refinery.



At Baiji, an official of Iraq's North Oil Company said the 
Salahidin refinery had shut down because it had reached its 
storage capacity and pipeline sabotage was stopping it 
transporting its products further afield. 



Baghdad and other cities are in the grip of grave shortages of 
petrol and heating oil as well as gas for cooking. It is partly 
a result of attack on pipelines and due to attacks on convoys 
that import much of Iraq's energy. 



Election boycott



Amid the continuing violence there have been more calls to 
boycott elections scheduled for next month.



Speaking to Aljazeera, Fuad al-Rawi a member of the Iraqi 
Islamic Party (IIP) explained why his party was boycotting the 
polls.



"The security situation is still deteriorating, and that is a 
convincing reason to postpone elections," he said



"The IIP and more than 70 political parties, organisations and 
groups have called for postponing the polls for the sake of 
Iraqi national interest.



"The IIP and the parties have also called for a national 
reconciliation before carrying out election.



"Since it is the first time we are experiencing a democratic 
process, the IIP hopes election would be carried under fair, 
just and transparent circumstances," al-Rawi said.

From: Noam The Voyeuristic Bone
To: all the politcally correct fat seppo cunts out there WATCH THIS IF YOU DARE!!! ha ah it is HILARIOUS!
Subject: go here it is hilarious and all in the name of fun! : http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/catalog/video.html
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
go here it is hilarious and all in the name of fun! : 
http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/catalog/video.html

From: noam the ALIVE bone
To: all the idiot seppos!:)
Subject: Five idiot Seppos walk warily down the Baghdad street, With the brim pulled way down low Ain t no sound but the sound of his feet, Machine guns ready to go Are you ready, are you ready for this Are you hanging on the edge of your seat Out of the doorway t - the bullets rip To the sound of the beat http://www.toad.com/ Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust And anoth (the bullets rip To the sound of the beat http://www.toad.com/ Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust And anoth)
Date: Wed Dec 8 21:42:27 2004

Message:
Five idiot Seppos walk warily down the Baghdad street, With 
the brim pulled way down low Ain t no sound but the sound of his 
feet, Machine guns ready to go Are you ready, are you ready for 
this Are you hanging on the edge of your seat Out of the doorway 
t - the bullets rip To the sound of the beat 
http://www.toad.com/ Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt 
bites the dust And anoth (the bullets rip To the sound of the 
beat http://www.toad.com/ Another cunt bites the dust Another 
cunt bites the dust And anoth) 
Five idiot Seppos walk warily down the Baghdad street, With the 
brim pulled way down low Ain t no sound but the sound of his 
feet, Machine guns ready to go Are you ready, are you ready for 
this Are you hanging on the edge of your seat Out of the doorway 
the bullets rip To the sound of the beat http://www.toad.com/ 
Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust And 
another cunt gone, and another cunt gone Another cunt bites the 
dust Hey, I m gonna get you too Another cunt bites the dust How 
do you think I m going to get along, Without you, when you re 
gone You took me for everything that I had, And kicked me out on 
my own Are you happy, are you satisfied How long can you stand 
the heat Out of the doorway the bullets rip To the sound of the 
beat Chorus Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the 
dust Another cunt bites the dust Another cunt bites the dust 
There are plenty of ways you can hurt a cunt And bring him to 
the ground You can beat him You can cheat him You can rape him 
bad and leave him When he s down But I m ready, yes I m ready 
for you I m standing on my own two feet Out of the doorway the 
bullets rip Repeating the sound of the beat la la 
la....http://www.toad.com 
 

From: Noam The Glad-I-Am-Not-An-American-Soldier Bone
To: HAHA silly fucking yanks! DO YOU STILL BELIEVE IN THEM AND TRUST THEM?????
Subject: In other words, Rumsfeld made it clear that he did not believe it was a priority for US troops to be properly armoured, and if they had to do so, they could continue to search through the rubble for armour. - HA HA...WWW.COSTOFAWAR.COM (http://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhtt)
Date: Wed Dec 8 20:48:23 2004

Message:
In other words, Rumsfeld made it clear that he did not believe 
it was a priority for US troops to be properly armoured, and if 
they had to do so, they could continue to search through the 
rubble for armour. - HA HA...WWW.COSTOFAWAR.COM 
(http://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comht
tp://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhtt) 
US troops question Rumsfeld on having to dig through landfill 
site for armour
Rumsfeld got a surprise recently when he took part in a question 
and answer session with US troops.

Apparently, one soldier asked Rumsfeld "Why do we soldiers have 
to dig through local landfills for pieces of scrap metal and 
compromised ballistic glass to uparmor our vehicles?"

An interesting question don't you think, to which Rumsfeld 
replied "You go to war with the Army you have," not the one you 
might want, and that any rate the Army was pushing manufacturers 
of vehicle armor to produce it as fast as humanly possible."
http://www.humiliateamerica.com
In other words, Rumsfeld made it clear that he did not believe 
it was a priority for US troops to be properly armoured, and if 
they had to do so, they could continue to search through the 
rubble for armour. 
 

From: Noam The Roof-Over-His-Head Bone
To: all you lame-ass supporters of a bogus war...this is the NEW america!! ha ha SUFFER YOU CUNTS!
Subject: Homeless Iraq vets showing up at shelters
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
Homeless Iraq vets showing up at shelters


By Mark Benjamin
UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL


Washington, DC, Dec. 7 (UPI) -- U.S. veterans from the war in 
Iraq are beginning to show up at homeless shelters around the 
country, and advocates fear they are the leading edge of a new 
generation of homeless vets not seen since the Vietnam era. 

 
"When we already have people from Iraq on the streets, my God," 
said Linda Boone, executive director of the National Coalition 
for Homeless Veterans. "I have talked to enough (shelters) to 
know we are getting them. It is happening and this nation is not 
prepared for that."

"I drove off in my truck. I packed my stuff. I lived out of my 
truck for a while," Seabees Petty Officer Luis Arellano, 34, 
said in a telephone interview from a homeless shelter near March 
Air Force Base in California run by U.S.VETS, the largest 
organization in the country dedicated to helping homeless 
veterans. 

Arellano said he lived out of his truck on and off for three 
months after returning from Iraq in September 2003. "One day you 
have a home and the next day you are on the streets," he said.

In Iraq, shrapnel nearly severed his left thumb. He still has 
trouble moving it and shrapnel "still comes out once in a 
while," Arellano said. He is left handed.

Arellano said he felt pushed out of the military too quickly 
after getting back from Iraq without medical attention he needed 
for his hand -- and as he would later learn, his mind. 

"It was more of a rush. They put us in a warehouse for a while. 
They treated us like cattle," Arellano said about how the 
military treated him on his return to the United States.

"It is all about numbers. Instead of getting quality care, they 
were trying to get everybody demobilized during a certain time 
frame. If you had a problem, they said, 'Let the (Department of 
Veterans Affairs) take care of it.'"

The Pentagon has acknowledged some early problems and delays in 
treating soldiers returning from Iraq but says the situation has 
been fixed.

A gunner's mate for 16 years, Arellano said he adjusted after 
serving in the first Gulf War. But after returning from Iraq, 
depression drove him to leave his job at the U.S. Equal 
Employment Opportunity Commission. He got divorced. 

He said that after being quickly pushed out of the military, he 
could not get help from the VA because of long delays.

"I felt, as well as others (that the military said) 'We can't 
take care of you on active duty.' We had to sign an agreement 
that we would follow up with the VA," said Arellano.

"When we got there, the VA was totally full. They said, 'We'll 
call you.' But I developed depression."

He left his job and wandered for three months, sometimes living 
in his truck.

Nearly 300,000 veterans are homeless on any given night, and 
almost half served during the Vietnam era, according to the 
Homeless Veterans coalition, a consortium of community-based 
homeless-veteran service providers. While some experts have 
questioned the degree to which mental trauma from combat causes 
homelessness, a large number of veterans live with the long-term 
effects of post-traumatic stress disorder and substance abuse, 
according to the coalition. 

Some homeless-veteran advocates fear that similar combat 
experiences in Vietnam and Iraq mean that these first few 
homeless veterans from Iraq are the crest of a wave. 

"This is what happened with the Vietnam vets. I went to 
Vietnam," said John Keaveney, chief operating officer of New 
Directions, a shelter and drug-and-alcohol treatment program for 
veterans in Los Angeles. That city has an estimated 27,000 
homeless veterans, the largest such population in the 
nation. "It is like watching history being repeated," Keaveney 
said.

Data from the Department of Veterans Affairs shows that as of 
last July, nearly 28,000 veterans from Iraq sought health care 
from the VA. One out of every five was diagnosed with a mental 
disorder, according to the VA. An Army study in the New England 
Journal of Medicine in July showed that 17 percent of service 
members returning from Iraq met screening criteria for major 
depression, generalized anxiety disorder or PTSD.

Asked whether he might have PTSD, Arrellano, the Seabees petty 
officer who lived out of his truck, said: "I think I do, because 
I get nightmares. I still remember one of the guys who was 
killed." He said he gets $100 a month from the government for 
the wound to his hand. 

Lance Cpl. James Claybon Brown Jr., 23, is staying at a shelter 
run by U.S.VETS in Los Angeles. He fought in Iraq for 6 months 
with Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 2nd Marines and later in 
Afghanistan with another unit. He said the fighting in Iraq was 
sometimes intense. 

"We were pretty much all over the place," Brown said. "It was 
really heavy gunfire, supported by mortar and tanks, the whole 
nine (yards)."

Brown acknowledged the mental stress of war, particularly after 
Marines inadvertently killed civilians at road blocks. He thinks 
his belief in God helped him come home with a sound mind.

"We had a few situations where, I guess, people were trying to 
get out of the country. They would come right at us and they 
would not stop," Brown said. "We had to open fire on them. It 
was really tough. A lot of soldiers, like me, had trouble with 
that." 

"That was the hardest part," Brown said. "Not only were there 
men, but there were women and children -- really little 
children. There would be babies with arms blown off. It was 
something hard to live with."

Brown said he got an honorable discharge with a good conduct 
medal from the Marines in July and went home to Dayton, Ohio. 
But he soon drifted west to California "pretty much to start 
over," he said. 

Brown said his experience with the VA was positive, but he has 
struggled to find work and is staying with U.S.VETS to save 
money. He said he might go back to school. 

Advocates said seeing homeless veterans from Iraq should cause 
alarm. Around one-fourth of all homeless Americans are veterans, 
and more than 75 percent of them have some sort of mental or 
substance abuse problem, often PTSD, according to the Homeless 
Veterans coalition.

More troubling, experts said, is that mental problems are 
emerging as a major casualty cluster, particularly from the war 
in Iraq where the enemy is basically everywhere and blends in 
with the civilian population, and death can come from any 
direction at any time.

Interviews and visits to homeless shelters around the Unites 
States show the number of homeless veterans from Iraq or 
Afghanistan so far is limited. Of the last 7,500 homeless 
veterans served by the VA, 50 had served in Iraq. Keaveney, from 
New Directions in West Los Angeles, said he is treating two 
homeless veterans from the Army's elite Ranger battalion at his 
location. U.S.VETS, the largest organization in the country 
dedicated to helping homeless veterans, found nine veterans from 
Iraq or Afghanistan in a quick survey of nine shelters. Others, 
like the Maryland Center for Veterans Education and Training in 
Baltimore, said they do not currently have any veterans from 
Iraq or Afghanistan in their 170 beds set aside for emergency or 
transitional housing.

Peter Dougherty, director of Homeless Veterans Programs at the 
VA, said services for veterans at risk of becoming homeless have 
improved exponentially since the Vietnam era. Over the past 30 
years, the VA has expanded from 170 hospitals, adding 850 
clinics and 206 veteran centers with an increasing emphasis on 
mental health. The VA also supports around 300 homeless veteran 
centers like the ones run by U.S.VETS, a partially non-profit 
organization.

"You probably have close to 10 times the access points for 
service than you did 30 years ago," Dougherty said. "We may be 
catching a lot of these folks who are coming back with mental 
illness or substance abuse" before they become homeless in the 
first place. Dougherty said the VA serves around 100,000 
homeless veterans each year. 

But Boone's group says that nearly 500,000 veterans are homeless 
at some point in any given year, so the VA is only serving 20 
percent of them. 

Roslyn Hannibal-Booker, director of development at the Maryland 
veterans center in Baltimore, said her organization has begun to 
get inquiries from veterans from Iraq and their worried 
families. "We are preparing for Iraq," Hannibal-Booker said. 

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From: cunt
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Subject: CUNTS
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
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From: Noam The Secure Bone
To: all you scaredy cunts SEPPO FUCKS
Subject: HOMELAND INSECURITY
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
HOMELAND INSECURITY 
Expert: Massive WMD attack 'inevitable' 
Yossef Bodansky says U.S. losing war on terrorism 
The United States is losing the war on terrorism and faces 
an "inevitable" al-Qaida attack with weapons of mass destruction 
that will be worse than 9-11, according to a counter-terror 
expert. 

"All of the warnings we have today indicate that a major strike  
 something more horrible than anything we've seen before   is 
all but inevitable," said Yossef Bodansky, former director of 
the U.S. Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and 
Unconventional Warfare, in an interview yesterday with the 
Jerusalem Post. 


Bodansky said "the primary option" for the next al-Qaida attack 
on American soil would be to employ weapons of mass destruction. 

"I do not have a crystal ball, but this is what all the 
available evidence tells us; e will have a bang," Bodansky told 
the Post, adding al-Qaida is "tying up the knots" for an attack. 

Bodansky, author of "Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on 
America," and "The Secret History of the Iraq War," said the 
jihadist movement is gaining strength as Osama bin Laden's call 
to arms draws an increasing number of recruits throughout the 
Muslim world. 

Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Bodansky said, the number of 
people trained and willing to die has more than doubled to an 
estimated 500,000 to 750,000. Intelligences estimates say 
another 10 million are willing toactively support them while 
another 50 million would provide financial support. 

Bodansky was in Israel for the second annual Jerusalem Summit, 
an international gathering of conservative thinkers, the Post 
said. 

Al-Qaida has not carried out a second major attack, Bodansky 
explained, because the first one sufficiently sent the message 
to the Islamic world that the U.S. could be penetrated, and a 
second attack necessarily would have to be more grandiose. 

Now, however, the re-election of President Bush has set the 
stage for a massive attack with non-conventional weapons, 
Bodansky believes. 

There has been a debate between bin Laden allies and some 
Islamic leaders over the propriety of such a large-scale attack 
on U.S. citizens, he told the Jerusalem paper. But, according to 
bin Laden's mindset, that has been resolved by the American 
electorate backing Bush and thus "choosing" to be enemies of 
Islam. 

Though some debate and doubt may linger, the planning for an 
attack is finished, Bodansky believes. 

"They got the kosher stamp from the Islamic world to use nuclear 
weapons," he said. 

Bin Laden's theme has shifted since 9-11, Bodanksy said. 
Previously, perpetual confrontation and jihad against the U.S. 
was seen as the only way to protect Islam. Now, the emphasis is 
on punishing American society. 

"Just as the West was challenging the quintessence of Islam by 
means of the globalization era, there was a parallel need by 
Islamic extremists to strike at   and hurt   the core of 
American society, this time with weapons of 

From: Noam The Bone
To: all yanky fat fucks
Subject: Two US marines killed in Falluja fighting
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
Two US marines killed in Falluja fighting


Friday 26 November 2004, 19:16 Makka Time, 16:16 GMT    

 http://www.osamabinladeniswinning.com
Pockets of resistance still remain in the battle-scarred town
  
Falluja fighters have killed two US marines who were conducting 
a house search in the war-ravaged town, US military sources said.

http://www.osamabinladeniswinning.com
The fighters threw grenades at the marines, Lieutenant General 
John Sattler said on Friday. Three fighters were also killed in 
the incident which took place on Thursday.

Marines have been searching houses in Falluja for weapons and 
fighters after a major offensive in the town earlier this month. 

While the US military said they had killed over 1000 fighters in 
the offensive, the marines still face resistance in Falluja, 
where many buildings were reduced to piles of rubble. 

"We will keep searching for weapons until we put a 'green X' on 
the last house in Falluja," Sattler said. 
James walks warily down the Baghdad street,
With the brim pulled way down low
Ain t no sound but the sound of his feet,
Machine guns ready to go
Are you ready, are you ready for this
Are you hanging on the edge of your seat
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat
http://www.toad.com/
Another cunt bites the dust
Another cunt bites the dust
And another cunt gone, and another cunt gone
Another cunt bites the dust
Hey, I m gonna get you too
Another cunt bites the dust

How do you think I m going to get along,
Without you, when you re gone
You took me for everything that I had,
And kicked me out on my own

Are you happy, are you satisfied
How long can you stand the heat
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat

Chorus

Another cunt bites the dust
Another cunt bites the dust
Another cunt bites the dust
Another cunt bites the dust
There are plenty of ways you can hurt a cunt
And bring him to the ground
You can beat him
You can cheat him
You can rape him bad and leave him
When he s down
But I m ready, yes I m ready for you
I m standing on my own two feet
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
Repeating the sound of the beat
la la la....http://www.toad.com/
'Attacks resumed'

Marine officers have said they would inspect an estimated 50,000 
houses in the city west of Baghdad, a tedious task that involves 
searching everything from ventilation systems to couches as 
snipers await opportunities to fire. 

Meanwhile, fighters in Falluja have claimed in a statement that 
they had reorganised and resumed their attacks. 

 
Falluja's fighters say they have
now reorganised themselves
 
"After reorganising, the Mujahidin resumed their attacks on 
Wednesday with the aim of shattering the myth of the 
invincibility of the coalition forces, and the traitors and 
collaborators who are under the orders of Allawi and Naqib," 
they said. 

The statement issued on Friday by the Mujahidin Council was 
referring to interim Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi and 
Interior Minister Falah Naqib, both staunch supporters of the 
vast operation launched on 8 November.  
 
Clash in Kirkuk

In a separate development, armed fighters attacked a police 
station near the northern city of Kirkuk, killing one policeman 
and injuring three, police said on Friday. 

Fighters used machine-guns and rocket-propelled grenades in 
their assault on a police station in Rashad, 50km southwest of 
Kirkuk on Thursday night, according to police Brigadier Sarhat 
Qadir. 

Qadir said policemen returned fire, forcing the attackers to 
flee the scene. Kirkuk is 290km north of Baghdad.  

Death in Samarra

Meanwhile, in Samarra, which was recently occupied by US forces 
after remaining a no-go zone for months, a political activist 
has been gunned down by unknown attackers. 

 
Reoccupation of Samarra has
failed to put an end to violence
 

 

"Nabil Said Darwish, a member of the National Salvation 
Movement, was assassinated this morning by armed men in 
Samarra," police Lieutenant-Colonel Mahmud Muhammad said on 
Friday.

 

The party is led by Wafiq al-Samarrai, a former general under 
Saddam Hussein who broke away from the regime shortly before the 
US-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003.

 

"Darwish had survived several assassination attempts over the 
past two months, which had left two of his bodyguards dead," the 
police officer said.

 

Fighters in Samarra, some 128km north of Baghdad, accuse the 
party of having links to the US military.



Agencies 

From: Noam The Honest Bone
To: all the sheep out there i.e. BUSSH VOTERS FUCKWITS< FAT CUNTS< BRAINWASHED FUCKS SEXUALLY REPRESSED MORONS and GEOGRAPHICALLY CHALLENGED CUNTS!!
Subject: Today's Bush Lie-"[Castro] welcomes sex tourism,"
Date: Thu Nov 25 00:19:20 2004

Message:
Today's Bush Lie
"[Castro] welcomes sex tourism," Bush told a room of law 
enforcement officials in Florida, according to the Los Angeles 
Times. "Here's how he bragged about the industry," Bush 
said. "This is his quote: 'Cuba has the cleanest and most 
educated prostitutes in the world.'"
http://bushwatch.org/bushlies.htm
"As it turns out, Bush had lifted that quotation not from an 
actual Castro speech but rather from a 2001 essay written by 
then Dartmouth University undergraduate Charles Trumbull. In the 
essay, Trumbull did appear to quote a Castro speech about 
prostitution. Sadly, the student made the quotation up.

"According to officials, the actual quotation from Castro's 1992 
speech reads as follows: 'There are hookers, but prostitution is 
not allowed in our country. There are no women forced to sell 
themselves to a man, to a foreigner, to a tourist. Those who do 
so do it on their own, voluntarily . We can say that they are 
highly educated hookers and quite healthy, because we are the 
country with the lowest number of AIDS cases.'"

"...And this isn't the first time the Internet has baffled Bush. 
Back in 2003, the President cited another student's thesis when 
making a case to go to war. The student's [plagiarized 
and "sexed up"] work ended up in a government document 
describing Iraq's weapons capability. Not exactly the kind of 
hard intelligence needed to justify an attack on another 
country." The Register, 07.28.04

http://bushwatch.org/bushlies.htm
http://bushwatch.org/bushlies.htm

From: Noam The Well-Read Bone
To: ALL YOU BRAINDEAD BRAINWASHED FILTHY FAT DUMB FUCKING YANKS OUT THERE!!!!
Subject: How your government gets away with murder
Date: Thu Nov 25 00:18:24 2004

Message:
How your government gets away with murder 

John Kaminski - November 21, 2004 

I receive 200-500 e-mails per day. Needless to say I can't read 
them all, never mind answer them all. But many of them are like 
this one, and these I always try to answer these even though I 
really don't have THE ANSWER when people ask me, "What can I do 
to stop this madness?" 

 Hello, John. Thanks for the education. I am wondering, what is 
that makes most people "uneducable?" Fear? Denial? Upbringing? 

"I have a friend who had opened up a bit to the idea that 9/11 
was pure theatre, but now is sliding back to "I don't want to 
talk about it ... after saying to me, 'What are you trying to 
prove that the government is wrong? Why should people care?' 

"I guess I must examine my own fears: the feeling I had when I 
first started e-mailing people   after learning just enough on 
9/11 to be convinced it was an inside job. Maybe it's just the 
crowd mentality .... 

"So I am asking you, what do you think is the main reason why 
people are uneducable? 

"I'd appreciate your opinion. 

"Craig R." 


Craig, I think there is one overriding reason that prevents 
people from confronting the lies their government tells them, 
and it's the hardest one to realize. And by your phrasing, I can 
see you're already onto it. 

Sure, you can blame a lot of the American public's indifferent 
and uninvolved behavior on a deliberately retarded school system 
that prioritizes regimentation as far more important than 
enlightenment, or our bozo media industry that reduces 
everything to lowest common denominator pandering to our baser 
instincts. 

Or, you can suspect the mentally debilitating effects of 
fluoride, chemtrails, and food additives   not to mention the 
omnipresent radioactivity increasing in our atmosphere by the 
day, or the conscience-numbing aphasia of antidepressant drugs   
as possible reasons for this detached malaise that causes many 
people to be completely disinterested in the vital processes 
that control and diminish their own lives. 

But really, you hit it on the head when you speculated that you 
must examine your own fears. 

I've said this before, and I'll never stop saying it. 

The real opportunity for growth and learning when studying the 
events of 9/11 is this. 

Once you realize that 9/11 was an inside job, conceived and 
carried out by members of the highest levels of the American 
government, a window opens in your mind that reveals the 
hypocritical and destructive nature of American behavior over 
time, and you begin to see that all these heroicized wars that 
have been conducted in the name of democracy and freedom were 
really something quite different. 

At this point, it becomes a matter of do you have genuine 
integrity or don't you? As we all know, the first requirement of 
true integrity is admitting your own faults. I think there is no 
question in anyone's mind at this moment that America has no 
integrity (hell, you just need to look at the Indian treaties to 
realize that). Certainly the mainstream American media has 
absolutely no integrity, in that it's obvious to everyone the 
real stories about the Iraq war, depleted uranium, public 
corruption, fixed elections, and on and on ad infinitum are 
never mentioned by the hateful robots you see reading the "news" 
on TV). 

But the larger question is: Do WE have integrity? I'm talking 
about you and me. 

Are we willing to look at the truth as we perceive it and try to 
identify and admit our own complicity in all these atrocities, 
as the American government runs around the world shooting 
innocent women and children in the head over reasons we KNOW are 
lies. I mean, we're supposed to be fighting terrorists, right, 
but we KNOW these terrorists are not Muslim malcontents, and 
that most likely they are CIA/Mossad-contracted mercenaries 
assigned to kill Iraqi aid workers, behead innocents and blow up 
churches and mosques in order to inflame the situation to kindle 
support from the braindead public, who then mindlessly cheer the 
genocidal tactics of George W. Bush and pretend not to notice 
that not only did America CREATE the terrorists and start the 
war with phony evidence, we now continue the war as viciously as 
we can, continually murdering innocents and turning our own 
troops into raging psychopaths. Why? Increased profits for the 
military contractors, of course, which means increased under-the-
table payments for our elected officials. 

In a way, the easiest way to deal with that guilt is to pretend 
it's not really happening, which is what most Americans are 
doing right now. 

But in the conversation between you and me, Craig, we both know 
that WE are partly responsible   not matter how small or 
unwilling a part   for the American mass murder in Iraq, because 
we know we are American citizens and as such have a 
responsibility for controlling what our government does, at 
least if we are to believe and endorse the fact that America is 
a participatory democracy in which the people are ultimately 
responsible for what their government does. 

Of course on another level, we have absolutely no control over 
what our government does. The Congress and most elected 
officials throughout America are bought off by the financial 
powers-that-be, and they do what they want, ordinary people like 
you and me be damned. But again, if we have integrity, we can 
trace a small shard of responsibility back to ourselves, to some 
small event in our histories in which we did not stand for 
principle, but instead held back and let some innocuous 
hypocrisy pass us by unchallenged with the rationalization 
that "there's nothing we could have done about it" or "it didn't 
affect me that much." 

Although these events seemed unimportant at the time, these 
small defeats, multiplied by the American population total   
some 300 million   have combined to produce the situation we 
face today   an endless war aimed at stimulating hatred and 
conflicts for the ubiquitous and ever-present purpose of 
increasing profits for the goons who make and sell the weapons. 

Why people try to hide in their own indifference is a very old 
question. So is why they are uneducable. 

But beyond the political ramifications of this widespread 
indifference are the spiritual dimensions, the conversations 
each of us has with ourselves, either lying on a pillow in the 
dark late at night or taking that first hard glance in the 
mirror before shaving in the morning. 

To a degree, you are right about the crowd mentality. Everybody 
wants to fit in. Our minds create and accept authority figures, 
and we try to live our lives according to these dictates we have 
accepted as legitimate to our own self-worth. 

But a deeper reason exists with regard to what we choose to 
believe. And let me preface this by admitting I ve been saying 
this for a long time, and haven t found all that many who agree 
with my opinion. But that doesn t stop me from repeating it. 

I believe that religions are ultimately debilitating to the 
spirit, because they try to make us believe things that we know 
are not true, and in accepting the tenets of any religion, we 
leave ourselves open to a pattern of behavior that accepts 
things on faith, without examining them rationally. And this 
process habituates us to accepting lies as truth, as long as 
they emanate from an authority figure we have conditioned 
ourselves to respect. 

Once you are willing to accept something that deep in your 
psyche you know goes against what you perceive to be rational 
truth   e.g., Jesus died for our sins and rose again from the 
dead   THEN YOU CAN BE MADE TO BELIEVE ANYTHING, whether it is 
true or not, as long as it comes from an authority figure to 
whom you have given credibility in your mind. 

I believe this is a central component in the phenomenon of a 
majority of the American people believing the government s bogus 
story about 9/11, and in their willingness to accept the 
psychotic carnage in Iraq as being somehow relevant to their own 
well-being. 

Thus, according to the tenets of the psychological process known 
as transference (in which we take the feelings of trust and 
dependence that we feel as children toward our parents and 
transfer them as adults to a relationship with an imaginary sky 
god to maintain our inner feelings of security), we want to 
accept what George W. Bush tells us because we have embedded 
ourselves in American society, and our whole meaning becomes 
challenged and distorted when we lose that focus by realizing 
that probably everything that has come out of Dubya s mouth in 
his whole life has been a cynical and sarcastic rich boy s lie. 

Therefore, challenging his public statements can be disorienting 
to those who are not committed to their own integrity or trapped 
in the psychological prison of a fictitious belief system that 
can be proven false, should such believers suddenly develop the 
courage to confront the lies they are telling themselves. 

In some cases, confronting these lies can totally shatter a 
person s sense of self, which is why the majority choose not to 
do that. Unfortunately, not confronting these lies is very 
likely to shatter our world into little radioactive bits, a 
profoundly ugly process we see happening   and accelerating   as 
we speak. 

Thanks for writing, Craig. 

From: Noam The DollarDrums Bone
To: all the filthy us-owning cunts: SELL THEM, BUY EUROS!!!!;)
Subject: Dollar plumbs new lows on talk of central bank selling
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
Dollar plumbs new lows on talk of central bank selling

Wed Nov 24, 1:30 PM ET   Business - AFP 
LONDON (AFP) - The dollar trawled record depths against the 
euro, hit by signs that central banks in Russia and elsewhere 
could step up sales of the ailing US currency to buy euros. 
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The single European currency soared to a new record against the 
dollar, reaching 1.3178 dollars in late European trading. 


It was the third record high of the day, and the second straight 
day of record highs for the euro, which has been boosted by 
concerns about the US budget and current account deficits. 
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The euro then eased back, changing hands at 1.3174 dollars, 
against 1.3084 late on Tuesday in New York. 


The dollar fell to 102.89 yen from 103.30 on Tuesday. 


The dollar sell-off has gathered pace over the week as concerns 
over the US's twin deficits combined with talk the Russian 
Central Bank is reviewing the structure of its currency reserves 
away from the US currency. 


Whether or not Russia reduces the weight of the dollar in its 
foreign exchange reserves, analysts said the US currency will 
stay on the backfoot so long as the US continues to record 
massive deficits on both the current account and the fiscal 
front. 


"The dollar is friendless and in danger of freefall," said Neil 
Mackinnon, chief economist at ECU Group. 


As long as the market believes the US administration is 
following a policy of benign neglect, then the dollar will 
continue to fall whatever the European Central Bank and the Bank 
of Japan does to counter-act it, he added. 


In that scenario, not even strong US data can provide the dollar 
respite, with analysts now widely predicting the euro hitting 
1.45 dollars and a two dollar pound is just around the corner. 
Meanwhile, there is even talk that the dollar could drop to 85 
yen. 


Though US durable goods orders data published Wednesday declined 
marginally in October, there was continuing evidence of a jobs 
rebound and further strength in the housing market. 


Despite this brighter US economic picture, the dollar continues 
to slide in the currency markets against all its major rivals in 
the wake of last weekend's G20 meeting of finance ministers and 
central bankers. 


That meeting eliminated any expectation that there would be 
concerted action to help stabilise the dollar. 


That does not mean the European Central Bank or the Bank of 
Japan will not intervene in the markets to stem their respective 
currencies' appreciation against the dollar, but analysts said 
the chances of success are minimal given the market's over-
arching dollar sentiment. 


"The market believes intervention will be ineffective, and there 
is now a strong view the ECB will not intervene, while the 
market waits for the BoJ to follow words with actions," said ECU 
Group's Mackinnon. 


The ECB's last foray onto foreign exchange markets was in late 
2000, when it acted in coordination with other G7 countries to 
buy euros and sell dollars after the European currency plunged 
to a record low of 0.8230 dollars. 


The BoJ is no stranger in the currency markets, having 
intervened on a regular basis over the last year to stem the 
yen's appreciation 

   



The renewed bout of selling this week was sparked by comments 
from the Russian authorities hinting at plans to continue to 
switch their currency reserves into euros, to the detriment of 
the dollar. 

The euro was changing hands at 1.3174 dollars against 1.3084 
late on Tuesday in New York, 135.52 yen (135.16), 0.7001 pounds 
(0.7000) and 1.5105 Swiss francs (1.5152). 

The dollar stood at 102.89 yen (103.30) and 1.1463 Swiss francs 
(1.1582). 

The pound was at 1.8824 dollars (1.8685), 193.65 yen (192.99) 
and 2.1578 Swiss francs (2.1645). 

On the London Bullion Market, the price of an ounce of gold 
stood at 448.60 dollars against 448.15 late on Tuesday. 
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From: BreakingNewzzzz
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Date: Tue Nov 23 22:59:40 2004

Message:
Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Curt Nelson:

At the beginning of May of 2003 I took a trip into Manitoba to 
stay with a man with whom I d been in telephone contact on and 
off for about a year. He was interested in sasquatch. Sasquatch 
in Manitoba, Canada, that province above western Minnesota and 
eastern North Dakota, which stretches north along Hudson Bay 
where polar bears make their living. It s hundreds of miles of 
bush laced through with lakes   including the giants: Lakes 
Winnipeg, Manitoba, and Winnipegosis. In the winter it s no 
place to be without a good plan, for keeping warm and fed and 
out of trouble, and the means to carry it out. Manitoba s 
position in the upper middle of the North American land mass is 
too far from any reasonably warm winter grounds to imagine it as 
anything but the year-round home for animals found there, 
including sasquatch.

The man,  Peter,  had become interested in sasquatch because he 
told me he knew for certain they are real, and that they live 
there in Manitoba. He knew this for sure, he said, because he 
had a chance to look at one up close, after he d shot and killed 
it: he flipped its hand over with the toe of his boot to have a 
look at its palm. It was very large and there were five fingers  
 one a thumb, like a man s hand, he said. 

The following account of the event came mainly from two visits I 
had with Peter: first in early May of 2003 when I stayed with 
him for three days, and in September of that year when he put me 
up again for two days. We also talked about the shooting 
incident several times by phone, before and since my visits. The 
word-for-word questions and Peter s answers presented here were 
mostly from the May visit; we sat together in his home where he 
lives alone now. I taped our conversation. The reader will note 
a leading tendency in my questions. The prior discussions, I 
believe, are the cause of this. 

It happened the first week of November, 1941, 62 years ago, when 
Peter was 17 years old. He d gone hunting for moose with two 
friends around Basket Lake, a small lake about 15 miles west of 
Gypsumville, the town near where Peter grew up and has always 
lived. The two friends hunted the east side of Basket Lake; 
Peter wanted to go to the west side, which he knew was good for 
moose and elk. There was patchy snow on the ground and Peter 
found ambling moose tracks criss-crossing the area, indicating 
feeding animals. 

The spotty snow made tracking difficult but he moved ahead:   
Sure enough, I did see one in the willows feeding with its head 
down, and it was a cow moose   no calf, I didn t see a calf, and 
no horns, so I knew it was a cow. At that time the bulls still 
have their horns. But, in 1941 yet before the major fires, there 
were bush and willows so thick that you couldn t believe it. So 
you had to shoot through willows, there s not  you didn t always 
have an open shot, so  take a chance. So I did shoot, because I 
knew  take one or two steps and  [It would be gone]. 

Q: Where did you shoot, where did you try to hit her?
P: In the chest.
Q: Was she broadside to you?
P: Pretty well, but not fully broadside  and I did shoot, fired 
a shot  and I walked slowly and, yes, there was a little bit of 
blood on the right side, you know, as it s running, you could 
see where it sprinkled a little. It didn t look good; I could 
see I didn t hit it properly. The bullet deviated from the 
brush. But I had no choice, then, and the blood made it a little 
easier to track it. There was blood here and there; you could 
tell you were on the right track. So I tracked her slowly, I d 
say for a half hour, but very slowly.

And  I looked in the willows  again, and I could see all this 
hair, so I thought to myself  Well, I ll slow you up,  and I 
took a good aim and I fired. It disappeared  looked like I got 
it, so I walked up to it slowly  It wasn t far, 45 yards, only  
  cause that s about as far as you could see in that stuff   if 
it was that far. But I took my time, because when you approach a 
big game animal you have to approach carefully. You carry your 
gun across your chest with your hand on the breach, ready to 
fire. If it wants to jump you, you have one good shot, point 
blank. Don t raise the gun to your shoulder, just turn it and 
pull the trigger. That s the last chance you got. Because a big 
game animal, he gets you, you ve had it.

So I looked, I could see him  what the hell is this? Holy 
buckets! He s lying there and one foot was up, you know  So I 
nudged him in the foot and slowly walked on this side, still 
hanging onto my rifle like I was supposed to, and I picked the 
hand up with my right foot, to see the bottom. And I walked 
around and I could see where I hit him, in the back, high in the 
back, between the shoulder blades, right in the back. It must 
have been bent over  because   to look at the moose track and 
the blood or something like that   I didn t see a head.

I interrupted here, and to find out just how the thing was 
lying, I lay down on Peter s kitchen floor and, according to his 
instructions, adjusted myself to match the creature s position: 
I was on my right side with my right arm and hand pinned under 
my body. My left arm lay along my side and bent at the elbow so 
the hand was palm down on the ground in front of my belly. My 
face was pointed mostly at the ground but the left side showed 
fairly well. And my legs lay with the left foot s sole showing 
(the foot was caught and held that way by brush, he said).

Peter explained that when he shot the animal he thought he was 
looking at the rear end of his moose (Peter's view of the 
animal: http://www.patbarker-art.com/1lores.html) and that, 
given that shot, he tried to put the bullet just above where the 
anus should be. He said it s the only shot in that situation; 
the bullet travels above the gut just under the spine on up into 
the chest cavity where you want it. The creature had stood with 
its back to him; apparently it had been looking down (at the 
wounded moose s trail?) because he didn t see its head. And the 
big shoulders and back  he thought he was looking at the moose s 
rump. His bullet, meant to enter and travel just below a moose s 
back bone, had hit the animal between the shoulder blades, 
killing it on the spot. And this 1941-vintage 17-year-old who 
never heard of anything like a sasquatch looked upon the 
creature he had slain and wondered, and worried, and then became 
frightened. And he got out of there.

Q: What did you do then, did you literally run out of the woods?
P: No, I walked very fast  with three foot strides, I can tell 
you.

Q: What kind of gun were you using?
P: 38-55 Winchester.
Q: Oh, do you still have that gun?
P: No  in fact the RCMP man bought it for repairs because the 
barrel was wore out.

Q: An elk is real hard to turn over once it s dead   to turn it 
over to skin it. It s a lot of work. What about this creature, 
how big was it? Could you have turned it over?
P: Well, there s a knack, like you say, about turning an animal 
over  It depends on how the brush is, but  I always carried a 
piece of stiff cord, good cord, where you could tie the leg up 
to a willow or a tree, one leg  and you could roll him over like 
nothing. In a half an hour I ll dress a moose for you - not skin 
him, but ahh, gut him.

Q: So how big was this creature?
P: He was very  between  I would say  like, I m a straight six 
feet, and he d have been a foot and a half to two feet taller 
than I was   you know, just estimating.

Q: How about heaviness, I mean, could you have turned him over?
P: I didn t try it   oh yeah, I could have turned him over but 
I d have had to cut some willows to do that  See it s very hard 
to estimate the weight when he s covered with hair. I walked 
around him and thought,  Holy God, what the heck am I gonna do 
now? If there s anymore of these things around I don t want to 
be here.  And I just got the heck out of there so fast you 
wouldn t believe it. I don t think I spent more than, maybe, 
eight minutes with him.

Q: You ve seen a picture of the Patterson creature; do you think 
it looked about like that?
P: Very much so  well, I can describe his body. He has a big 
round chest. Huge! He s got a big chest   really big.

Q: And there s no skin showing?
P: No, I didn t see any bare skin except a little on his face, 
on the side.
Q: What about the palms of his hands?
P: They were bare.
Q: And the bottoms of his feet?
P: Yeah [they were bare]  but they weren t white  well, let s 
see  he s not a very hygienic creature, you know, he doesn t 
wash or anything, so his skin is dirty and a little brown, but 
white like my dirty hands. Not only a little dirty  and heavy 
fingers, and big palms, and  opposed thumb. And a big palm, 
like  when I close my hand like this and cover my face 

Q: Really, so his palm was proportionately bigger than a human s 
palm? That s what you re saying?
P: Yeah, it s longer and deeper like it s a big palm.

Q: What about the foot, does it match the footprints people have 
been casting?
P: Absolutely. The foot had five toes  on it, and the foot looks 
very flat foot, like, I have a high arch, you know, and his is 
completely very flat. And the foot  well I m pretty good at 
estimating the lengths of different things   or at least I was   
because when you re a carpenter you get used to that. And I d 
say his foot was around fifteen inches, fifteen and a half.

Q: So, did his coat look warm, his fur coat, was there a thick, 
dense, good undercoat?
P: Most animals have a underfur  and I didn t notice that on 
that animal  that he had short fur underneath   of course I 
wasn t  didn t touch him and didn t look at that.

Q: Witnesses always say, whenever they talk about it they 
say,  it was covered in hair,  and I think, well you d never 
describe a bear as being covered in hair, you d never say that. 
You d say it had fur. So why do people always describe bigfoot 
as being covered with hair?
P: Because it looks like hair.

Q: Well, that s what I m trying to get at  is why people say 
that, because it s an animal, it s covered in  fur, and yet for 
some reason, I don t know, because it s shaped like a man or 
something, they describe it as hair. And, you know, one of the 
characteristics of fur that makes it fur is that undercoat, that 
makes it dense. And if it didn t have that undercoat you maybe 
would refer to it as just hair.
P: Well  it looks like hair, not like fur.

Q: I think that s curious, that a northern animal like that, 
that has to survive here wouldn t have a coat that was 
essentially like a bear s, you know, with a good undercoat  
that s good and thick.
P: Well  you know what? You re talking about a humanoid animal  
But, all I can say, it looks like hair  not fur. You know, like 
a man lets his hair grow straggly and  you know, long  well 
that s what it looks like, a hair. That s why I say it s hair, 
because it looks like hair.

Q: I think you told me before that the hair was about eight 
inches. Is that right? Maybe you can just tell me something 
about the general appearance of the fur   or hair, as you 
describe it.
P: I would say it wasn t that long all over. But the hair 
hangin  from his head, you know, and down his shoulders  and 
down his arms were quite long. You know when he was laying, 
like, sideways, well the hair from his head kind of covered the 
side of his face right down to his shoulders, you know.

Q: So how long would you say that that longer hair was?
P: Well, I would say it has to be six to eight inches long. I 
didn t measure nothing  but it looked fairly long. You couldn t 
see an ear of any kind, you know, but I still could see part of 
his face on one side.

Q: And then describe the hair on the rest of the body, was it 
uniform in length?
P: Well, no, not really. It seemed to be kinda long on the arms, 
you know? It was hair down the top of his hands, you know, and 
partly down his fingers, but shorter, you know, half inch to one 
inch, I would say roughly, but not right to the very tips, you 
know  But the top of the hand was covered  But  it was fairly 
long hair down the arm, too, you know, four, five, six inches, 
you know.

Q: Do you think it was also four, five, six inches along the 
legs and the torso of the animal?
P: Yeah, down the legs, too, you know, it was fairly long, about 
five to six inches, and it was  I noticed on the, the one leg 
that was up a little, you know, well, it was right down low, you 
know, to the bottom of his foot, the hair.

Q: And the color, the color of the hair  I think you told me 
was, ah, was reddish, didn t you?
P: No, it was a dark brown.
Q: Dark brown. Okay.
P: Yeah, a dirty dark brown, I can t say, but a dark brown, and 
it seemed to be a little  had some  the tops  well, I can t 
remember exactly where  ah, had a, like a reddish overtone, you 
know?
Q: Oh yeah, okay. I understand.
P: Top of the hair in places, not all over, but in areas, you 
know, it was... looked to me it was kinda reddish.

Q: I need you to comment, again, about your thinking in not 
telling anybody about it. I mean that s a very important point, 
and it s an obvious question that everybody has.
P: Well, for one, I was very shocked  to see this thing. And, it 
was during the war years   World War II   and the thing was, 
people can be very funny, if you talk about something that s out 
of line  right away you re crazy, you re not all there, you 
know. And I did a lot of thinking   myself, I could not place an 
animal in my brain, like that. Was it half human, half ape, or 
something like that?... The thing is, just a year or two ago 
people were calling me stupid in believing in such a 
thing   you re crazy to believe in those things   Today! Never 
mind sixty years ago.

Here Peter told me how for a while he d worked aboard an 
aircraft outfitted with skis, and traveled all over northern 
Manitoba where he talked with a lot of aboriginal people. From 
them he heard stories about something they saw, something that 
sounded like what he d shot (  and from their stories  they were 
seeing this thing, too, what I shot, I could make out  ).

Q: Okay, go back, though, to immediately after the killing 
occurred. Were you, ah, somewhat afraid of being prosecuted for 
killing something like that, or was it mostly a matter of, um, 
being thought crazy for? 
P: Not only that 
Q: But of course, Peter, also you have to  anyone would say that 
anybody that would have called you crazy  you could have brought 
them to the animal and proved that you really did it, that you 
weren t crazy. So I need you to discuss why you didn t do that.
P: Well, in the first place, I was with two older people. They 
were hunting going in a different   in the opposite direction. 
And it was not easy to do at that time, (Peter means it would 
not have been easy to show his hunting partners   or anyone   
the animal since it was far from where the other two had gone, 
in a very remote spot). But, for one, I was hunting illegally. 
Do you know what I m talkin  about?

Q: No. In what way were you hunting illegally?
P: Well I had no license to hunt for moose.
Q: Oh, uh-huh.
P: I had no license  I may have had, I don t remember, a deer 
license. But I didn t  wasn t fussy about shooting deer because 
they re a small animal and you don t get very much meat for a 
day s work. You know what I mean?
Q: Sure, yes.
P: So I go  as long as I could get in the bush   well there was 
days I d get two-three. Well, for a large family (Peter had 10 
brothers and sisters) it was enough to supply meat for the 
winter... But I was strictly hunting illegally.

Q: So you didn t want to reveal that fact by 
P: No, that fact alone. But, another thing, you hear these weird 
stories, especially in old days, about these guys living in 
hermits in the bush and  all that stuff. So you don t really 
know what to think. 
Q: So you thought, in some corner of your mind, you considered 
the possibility that it was one of these  one of these hermit-
type people and you might have killed a 
P: It was a, a cross or something, one of these hermit people, 
people used to talk about. I didn t want to be charged with 
shooting a hermit, or something human.

Q: So you thought that it was a possibility that it was 
something like that and that you could be in legal trouble for 
revealing it, is that right?
P: That s right. See, because, at those days nobody talked about 
a Sasquatch or  or a, a Bigfoot.

Q: So when you walked up on that animal and you were looking it 
over and stuff, did you determine where its tracks came from, 
whether it had been tracking your moose?
P: No. It would be hard to see tracks, because there were small 
amounts of snow   hay and everything  and I didn t look. I was 
too scared.

Q: And so  it was done breathing, it was not alive? 

P: Oh no, it took me 
Q: Do you think you shot it through the heart?
P: Well, the bullet didn t enter the body at a ninety degree 
angle  He had to be bent over because when you hit a animal on a 
angle it will shear part of the fur before it will enter. And 
that s what it looked like to me, of course it was so much hair 
it was so much harder to tell. 

During a recent phone call Peter said:  The bullet had to go 
through the spine, because it was dead center in the back. And 
when a bullet hits bone like that it expands and it would have 
gone into the chest and done tremendous damage.  The creature 
was  stone dead,  lying crumpled where it had been standing when 
he fired.
(How the creature looked: http://www.patbarker-
art.com/2lores.html)

Q: Can you still go back in your mind and remember that scene in 
your mind s eye; is that memory still vivid for you?
P: Oh  certain things in your memory   it coulda happened 
yesterday. You don t forget things like that. The most shocking 
part about it is the sheer size of the animal.
Q: Really?
P: Yes. It s just unbelievable because anything that big should 
have been seen and reported and in books and everything. You 
think you re on a different planet or something.

Q: Was it a male, do you know?
P: Yes, it would be a male, because I d have seen the breasts.
Q: Did you see genitals?
P: No, because the way he was laying on the side, kind of folded 
up. 
(Front view of creature: http://www.patbarker-
art.com/3lores.html)

Q: So tell me a little bit more about the appearance of it, you 
said it had a real big chest, barrel chest 
P: Big barrel chest. A human body, like yours, the chest, you 
know, well it s flat in front to back. But theirs is big, round, 
barrel chest 

Peter was just shy of his 79th birthday (he s just 80 at this 
writing) when I visited him. The next two days he took me around 
to show me places where others have had bigfoot (or windigo, as 
some of the natives call it) sightings. Two of the witnesses 
were women, residents of the Fairford Reserve, who had had 
recent sightings   one just two days prior to my arrival and the 
other about three weeks before that.

In the late sixties/early seventies, after the Patterson-Gimlin 
film brought bigfoot into the public consciousness   and into 
Peter s consciousness   he realized what the animal was that he 
had shot. When he saw the hair covered creature in that film he 
immediately knew that what he killed in 1941 was the same kind 
of animal. It was not some strange hybrid person, a thought that 
had occurred to him as he looked, puzzled, worried, and then 
frightened over the huge man-like creature his bullet had cut 
down. No, it was the same kind of animal as the one in the film 
taken by Roger Patterson in northern California. That s what it 
was! A bigfoot.

After Peter s life loosened up some, when the children had gone 
and he d cut back on his work and had a little time, his 
interest in sasquatch developed. He talked freely about the 1941 
incident around his community. Others offered their own stories 
of sightings of such a creature or its tracks. 

I d asked Peter if that early life incident, the killing of such 
a thing, as frightening and upsetting as that must have been, 
had troubled him during his subsequent life before he d come to 
realize what it was. No, he said. He got married, they had eight 
children, he worked hard as a farmer, carpenter, and commercial 
fisherman on Lake Winnipeg; he just didn t have time to worry, 
he explained. So for about 30 years Peter lived his life and 
told no one about the 1941 killing. But he didn t forget. And 
when he saw the Patterson-Gimlin film and knew what a bigfoot, a 
sasquatch   a windigo   was, he knew they were not just in the 
Pacific Northwest; they were there in the Manitoba bush, too.

We ve gone over it many times and I m convinced Peter did what 
he said he did: he shot a good-sized male sasquatch to death in 
1941 when he was just 17. There has been no hint of 
untruthfulness or indication that he was or is not thinking 
clearly about that event. If anything, Peter has been 
understated and overcautious in his statements to me about that 
day. At first I had a hard time getting him to tell me about it. 
Instead he has wanted to talk about recent sightings. He just 
wasn t interested in it anymore; it s old news to him. And he 
has told a lot of people about it (local people, mostly), and 
the response he s gotten from them has been pretty negative; 
he s been called stupid, crazy, and a liar. That is how it goes 
for people like Peter who have had a close encounter with a 
sasquatch   and talked about it. It s punishing. 

Beyond that Peter has the attitude that since he can t prove it 
happened, his story isn t really worth telling, that it s just 
another unsupportable claim. (Undoubtedly he has come to that 
conclusion over the years   because he has talked about it, told 
the story, and instead of being believed he has gotten grief for 
it.) So Peter doesn t care whether or not his story is told 
because he doesn t think it matters. What matters to him now are 
the current sightings, the ones that could yield evidence to 
prove sasquatches are there, have always been there, in the 
Manitoba bush.

And recently, when I commented to him on what a remarkable 
experience it was, how fortunate, (obviously apart from the fact 
that it involved the killing of such a creature), he was to have 
seen a sasquatch close up  he said, not really, that it wasn t a 
situation where he could appreciate it, and that he was scared. 
He wishes he d seen it alive and moving, like the William Roe 
sighting, he said. But in the more than sixty years since, with 
all the hunting and time in the bush he s spent, he hasn t seen 
another one. He has seen a track, one good track, however. 

That was in association with a 1979 sighting in which several 
other people saw the creature when it moved through the area. It 
was near where Peter lived and he got onto it and was able to 
track the animal s movements through a strip of bush and out 
into a hay field where it stepped on an ant mound and left a 
good impression of the front part of its foot, toes and all (he 
didn t cast or photograph it). He tracked the creature to a 
stack of big, circular hay bales   the rolled type, which weigh 
about 1000 pounds. Peter surmised that the creature had rested 
there inside the stack of bales: two bales had been pushed apart 
and one showed a clear compressed area, as if an enormous back 
had leaned into it. 

The only explanation I have for what Peter says happened is that 
it did happen. At one point during a conversation about  the 
sasquatch problem,  when we were particularly struggling with 
its difficulty, I blurted in exasperation,  Did that really 
happen?  
Peter replied emphatically,  Yes, it really did.  
I pushed further;  Was there any possibility at all that it was 
a bear  a man?  
 No.  He was certain it was some other kind of animal, the same 
kind as what s on the Patterson-Gimlin film,  a bigfoot,  he 
said.

In Canada during the period from WWI through WWII there was, and 
still lingers today, an open prejudice against immigrants from 
the Ukraine, Germany, and Austria. Under the 1914 War Measures 
Act Ukrainian Canadians were held in internment camps (1914   
1920) as "enemy aliens,  as the United States government held 
people of Japanese descent during WWII. The First World War 
prompted racist attitudes against Germans and Austrians by some 
Canadians who saw the war as a defense of Anglo-
Saxon  civilization  against German and Austrian aggression and 
militarism. And Peter s father was an Austrian immigrant. 
Therefore Peter s family fell under this prevailing negative 
gaze. 

He described to me what it was like: You didn t draw attention 
to yourself.  As long as you plowed and picked stones and kept 
your mouth shut, you were okay,  he said. And with regard to his 
shooting the creature:  You couldn t talk about it. It was so 
out of place that  you couldn t talk about it.  Implicit in 
Peter s explanations on staying quiet: You did not announce that 
you had just shot to death a  man-like thing   not at that time 
when no one had heard of bigfoot (save the aboriginal population 
with their windigos, among other things). No, not when you d 
been hunting moose without a license, and you were 17 years old. 
And certainly not when your father was Austrian.

And the other obvious question   Did I go to the spot where 
Peter shot the creature?   can be answered with a qualified yes. 
The first time I visited him, Peter told me that the country had 
changed a lot since that day. There had been big fires, and 
beavers had been re-introduced after a massive die off 
(contained in wooden boxes, they were dropped into lakes from 
helicopters, which they just chewed their way through, Peter 
explained). Years without their tree cutting and damming left 
the landscape and vegetation quite different from how it is now, 
with beavers. And the Interlake area is very flat; one acre 
looks much like the others. There were simply no landmarks for 
Peter to mark the spot by. 

Of course I wanted to go  there  anyway, and asked Peter about 
it.  I don t want to go into the bush anymore,  was his reply. 
He meant he d had enough of the bush, that he was feeling too 
old for it. He said he thought it would be easier to find a new 
bigfoot than to locate his from 1941. That might have been so; 
it was really a matter of symbolism for me to go there, at least 
approximately (maybe exactly), where the thing had fallen   for 
the feeling of being in such a significant place.

When I visited him again that fall (when he was a few months 
older), I persuaded him to take me. And we did go  as far down 
the trail as his four-wheel-drive pick-up could make it, and on 
foot from there... deep into crazy-thick willows, aspen, black 
spruce, and cane near the lake: bush the type of which Peter had 
had his fill. We worked our way to the south-west  shore  of 
Basket Lake, (a low-water, tall-cane morass, frightening for its 
clear potential to hopelessly swallow any person who might go a 
little too far into it   and to imagine it on fire), then 
southwest a good half mile   about a half mile, give or take in 
most directions, Peter thought, from the spot. It was the best 
he could place us. 

This is about the area, he said. And of course I looked at the 
ground, walked ahead and looked some more  for the skull, the 
foot bones, the jaw   all of it   any of it. No. I didn t really 
expect to find anything, for the bones to even still be there. 
And I saw that if any of it did still exist that it would be 
impossible to find  under the forest duff, where ever it was 
within that square mile or so (or maybe not, maybe further this 
or that way) of monstrously thick bush. And, yes, I did feel a 
little bit bad pushing Peter into that, into making him take me 
there. I fixed him a fabulous roast beef dinner that evening, 
and he loved it.

Actually we had a terrific time together. One night we stayed up 
until 1:00 AM talking about bigfoot. Peter is a wonderful old 
guy: generous, intelligent, and well informed   the kind of 
person who in different circumstances might have gone far. But 
Peter has had a successful life by any measure. To feed his 
family he always grew a big garden (and still does), and for 
meat they had moose, deer, elk, and woodland caribou, which he 
provided with his gun. Now Peter is working on getting another 
100,000 miles out of his 200,000 mile Chevy truck. I m betting 
they ll both make it.

Thanks to Michelle Baril, who lives not too far from Peter and 
introduced me to him. Michelle is a dedicated collector of 
Manitoba bigfoot sighting stories and continues to help me by 
generously sharing all that she has learned.

And thanks to Pat Barker, the Canadian artist who made the 
paintings of the creature Peter shot, which are included in this 
report. Pat traveled a long way with her husband to visit Peter 
at his home, where they spent the day while Pat made sketches 
with Peter s feedback to try and produce an accurate picture of 
the slain creature. Pat and I compared notes and discussed our 
impressions of the scene, and both Pat and I had follow-up phone 
conversations with Peter about things we wanted to understand 
correctly. I must say that Pat extracted many details about the 
creature s appearance that I did not. Those are conveyed by the 
exquisite paintings she made in which she endeavored to 
accurately depict all she gathered. 

From: a mexican
To: to who ever
Subject: who cares
Date: Fri Oct 29 23:08:41 2004

Message:
i want to see the beheaded video

From: Noam The Alive Bone
To: all you sickening fat filthy fucks out there i.e. SEPPO YANK CUNTS
Subject: Iraq: The Uncounted
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
Iraq: The Uncounted
  60 Minutes
  CBS News

  Sunday 21 November 2004
http://www.bushisacunt.com
  Approximately 300,000 American men and women have served at 
one time or another in Iraq.

  Most will return to the United States more or less intact. But 
some come home the hard way - on a stretcher, bloody and broken.

  And, as Correspondent Bob Simon says, there are few bloodier 
or more broken than Chris Schneider.

  Schneider says he believed in the war in Iraq, and liked 
wearing the uniform. "[I was] proud to wear it. I loved wearing 
it," says Schneider, a Kansas boy straight off the recruitment 
poster.

  He went to college on a wrestling scholarship, started a 
family, and joined the Army Reserves. This past January, his 
unit was providing security for a supply convoy traveling 
through 100 miles of dangerous Iraqi desert. He was riding in a 
two-and-a-half ton cargo truck, armed to the teeth.

  "In my vehicle there was my driver, there was my 50-cal gunner 
who was in a turret on top," says Schneider. "And then there was 
myself and another individual in back. We both had M249 machine 
guns."

  Schneider saw another convoy coming in his direction - a line 
of HETS (heavy equipment transports), big rigs on steroids, 
hogging the road. The first HET just missed hitting his truck. 
The second one did not.

  "It threw me up over my vehicle, over the HET and about 50 
feet into the field on the left," says Schneider. "When I 
landed, the next HET in line had locked up their brakes to keep 
from rear ending the one that we hit. And when he came to rest, 
the first set of tires on his trailer were parked on my pelvis. 
And the second set had my lower leg wedged in it to the axle. 
I've been told a rough estimate of approximately 120,000 to 
140,000 pounds."

  Today, Schneider walks with a limp, on his artificial leg. But 
even though he was injured while on a mission in a war zone - 
and even though he'll receive the same benefits as a soldier 
who'd been shot - he is not included in the Pentagon's casualty 
count. Their official tally shows only deaths and wounded in 
action. It doesn't include "non-combat" injured, those whose 
injuries were not the result of enemy fire.

  "It's a slap in the face. Although it was through no direct 
hostile action, I was on a mission that they'd given me in 
hostile territory. Hostile enough that we had to have a 
perimeter set up at the time of my accident to prevent from an 
ambush or an attack," says Schneider. "For those of us that were 
unfortunate enough to get injured. Whether it was hostile action 
or not, we're all paying the same price." How many injured and 
ill soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines - like Chris 
Schneider - are left off the Pentagon's casualty count?

  Would you believe 15,000? 60 Minutes asked the Department of 
Defense to grant us an interview. They declined. Instead, they 
sent a letter, which contains a figure not included in published 
casualty reports: "More than 15,000 troops with so-called 'non-
battle' injuries and diseases have been evacuated from Iraq."

  Many of those evacuated are brought to Landstuhl in Germany. 
Most cases are not life-threatening. In fact, some are not 
serious at all. But only 20 percent return to their units in 
Iraq. Among the 80 percent who don't return are GIs who suffered 
crushing bone fractures; scores of spinal injuries; heart 
problems by the hundreds; and a slew of psychiatric cases. None 
of these are included in the casualty count, leaving the true 
human cost of the war something of a mystery.

  "It's difficult to estimate what the total number is," says 
John Pike, director of a research group called 
GlobalSecurity.org.

  As a military analyst, Pike has spoken out against both 
Republican and Democratic administrations. He's weighed all the 
available casualty data and has made an informed estimate that 
goes well beyond what the Pentagon has released.

  "You have to say that the total number of casualties due to 
wounds, injury, disease would have to be somewhere in the 
ballpark of over 20, maybe 30,000," says Pike.

  His calculation, striking as it is, is based on the military's 
own definition of casualty - anyone "lost to the organization," 
in this case, for medical reasons. And Pike believes it's no 
accident that the military reports a number far lower than his 
estimate.

  "The Pentagon, I think, is afraid that they're going to lose 
public support for this war, the way they lost public support 
for Vietnam back in the 1960s," says Pike. "And minimizing the 
apparent cost of the war, I think, is one way that they're 
hoping to sustain public support here at home."

  60 Minutes asked the assistant secretary of Defense for Health 
Affairs about that claim - that casualties are being 
underreported, for political reasons. And we got a flat denial. 
In a letter, he told us, "We in the Department of Defense 
categorically reject the notion that we are underreporting 
casualties from Operation Iraqi Freedom."

  He pointed out that he'd already provided us with some 
figures - the 15,000 evacuations of non-combat injured and ill. 
Still, Pike says the military is trying to minimize the casualty 
count. It's an effort Pike believes is misguided, because he 
says that even if Americans understood the full human cost of 
the war, public support would not weaken.

  "I think that all of the public opinion polling that we're 
seeing suggests that the public is prepared to sustain far 
higher casualties than politicians give them credit for," says 
Pike. "I think that it's basically that the politicians and the 
Pentagon, don't have confidence in the American people." The 
Department of Defense did not include non-battle injuries in its 
casualty reports in other recent wars, either. But that's of 
little comfort to Joel Gomez, who was riding in the back of a 
Bradley fighting vehicle, looking for insurgents, when disaster 
struck.

  "Unfortunately, the Bradley was too heavy for the road, a dirt 
road, and the ground gave way. And we wound up flipping down the 
mountain. And it landed upside-down in the Tigris River," says 
Gomez.

  His two buddies were killed. Gomez made it out, but he's now 
paralyzed. "[It's] a horrific change. I can't move my legs. I 
can't move my arms," says Gomez. "It just totally changes your 
life in a manner that you could never imagine."

  Even though Gomez tumbled into the Tigris while looking for 
insurgents, he is, by the Pentagon's definition, "non-combat 
injured."

  "They blow it off and say it's just an accident," say 
Gomez. "I'm sure that somebody getting shot in the back would 
just be an accident. But that's how they see it."

  The Department of Defense says the injuries and illnesses 
suffered by Gomez and thousands of other troops should not be 
taken out of context. In their letter to 60 Minutes, they 
said: "In order to understand rates of injuries and diseases, it 
is necessary to understand what the normal or usual rates of 
injuries and diseases might be in other situations."

  What does this mean? That there are always going to be a 
certain number of accidents and injuries, war or no war - though 
they offer no numbers for comparison.

  "Soldiers and Marines are gonna get sick. They're gonna get 
into accidents. But there's gonna be more disease, more 
accidents, more psychiatric stress in Iraq than if they were 
back here," says Pike, who adds that hundreds of troops in Iraq 
have been so paralyzed by stress that they've had to be 
medically evacuated - though you won't see them reported in the 
casualty count. Traditionally, that count has not included 
combat stress. It was long thought, in the military's macho 
culture, that psychological trauma is best suffered in silence.

  Graham Alstrom has been back from Iraq for over a year, but 
he's still haunted by what he saw - and what he did to other 
people. "Some of them I shot. Some of them I blew up with 
grenades. Some of them were stabbed," says Alstrom.

  The memories of killing invaded his mind. Soon after he 
returned home, Alstrom's life began to unravel.

  "The drinking started immediately. I stopped sleeping. And I 
started getting very angry. I didn't want to talk to my family 
anymore. I didn't want them to see me. I didn't want to see 
them. I felt like they were ashamed of me," says Alstrom. "I was 
partly ashamed of some of the things I had done.  I couldn't 
separate the killing people and killing them in combat."

  He says he's frustrated that the military says his illness is 
not combat-related. "I know what I was like before I went to 
combat. I had a life beyond the Army," says Alstrom. "I talked 
to my family. I'd share feelings and emotions with people I 
cared about. I lived a very regular life."

  Alstrom won't get a Purple Heart for his service in Iraq. It 
was only his mind that was wounded in battle. "It doesn't matter 
what the paperwork says. We know what happened over there. We 
know what we did over there," says Alstrom. "And no piece of 
paperwork saying that I'm not a casualty could ever take that 
away. For any of us."

  They've had so much taken away already, but both Alstrom and 
Schneider insist that what remains inside them is the heart of a 
good soldier.

  "I'm very supportive of why we're there. I'm very supportive 
of what we did while I was there," says Schneider. "I believe 
wholeheartedly that not only should we have gone, but that we've 
done the right thing."

  Now, he'd like the military to do the right thing, too.

  "Every one of us went over there with the knowledge that we 
could die," says Schneider. "And then they tell you - you're 
wounded - or your sacrifice doesn't deserve to be recognized, or 
we don't deserve to be on their list - it's not right. It's 
almost disgraceful."

  

From: LiquidSkin
To: every1
Date: Mon Nov 22 11:39:15 2004

Message:
A gay Prime minister by 2080!!!! CUM on lets make sure it happens
its wud b so funny besides i die in 2081 so it wont b tht long for me

From: ghost
To: liquid
Subject: yeah
Date: Mon Nov 22 11:36:48 2004

Message:
good point i was wonderin were the man u match went thanks for
remindin me wot i did

From: LiquidSkin
To: Noam the very concerned bone
Date: Mon Nov 22 11:33:58 2004

Message:
U wanna kno y they avnt released them? its simple they accidently
taped sum porn over the top. i do it all the time n im much more
intelligent than the FBI

From: ghost
To: liquid
Subject: shhhh
Date: Mon Nov 22 11:03:29 2004

Message:
shush liquid that guy makes a good point, if ur from legoland,
naa onlt kiddin he really does make a good point and thats why
the arabs boasted about 9/11

From: LiquidSkin
To:
Date: Sun Nov 21 16:21:51 2004

Message:
wutchu tlkin bout fool?!?!

From: Noam The Very Concerned Bone
To: all gullible seppos out there
Subject: Why won't the FBI show the 9/11 airport videos ?
Date: Sun Nov 21 03:31:20 2004

Message:
Why won't the FBI show the 9/11 airport videos ? 
Posted Nov 19, 2004 05:38 PM PST
Category: 911 
Even before 9-11, airports were gestooned with TV cameras. But 
aside from a video of someone who looks like Atta at A TOTALLY 
DIFFERENT AIRPORT,not one video has been released showing the 
named hijackers getting onto the 9-11 aircraft. 
Where are the airport videos ? 





There are cameras at the ticket counter 

 







Cameras at checkpoints 

 







Cameras at boarding gates 

 







Today s airports have cameras everywhere 

So where are the hijacker s videos ? 

To date there has only been two video clips released   One of 
Mohammed Atta in Portland airport and another private showing to 
the survivors family of flight 77. At a time when most 
convenience stores across the country had security cameras we 
are told that Logan, Dulles and Newark didn't have cameras. 

Michael Taylor, president of American International Security 
Corp, says Newark and Dulles had cameras and the FBI confiscated 
them. FBI spokesman know nothing about this. 




Video systems have been around 40 yrs and are cheap 

This system costs $ 800 


 





Cameras don t look like cameras 

 






The truth 

All the airports involved had cameras and the FBI confiscated 
them. The simple truth is the hijackers weren t Arabs. The first 
flight had a Capt in Israel s Sayeret Matkal ( world s premier 
anti hijacking unit) and second jet had a Mossad agent name 
Alovra Ahraham on that. 9/11 was an Israeli orchestrated 
operation all the way. 




Why 

The US invaded Iraq so oil would flow via the Mosul-Haifi 
pipeline to Israel. Iraq didn't have WMD but it does have $ 3 
trillion in oil reserves 





American gullibility is the key 

The Pentagon fable is in a class with Little Red Riding Hood. 
You are told that a 757 out-ran four hundred supersonic fighter 
jets for 62 minutes and hit the Pentagon. And to top it off 
there wasn t a single picture of the event. 

From: Noam The Well-Read Bone
To: all the geographically challeneged, sexually repressed and morbidly OBESE seppo CUNTS out their in their trailer parks!!
Subject: Not What You Think by Charley Reese
Date: Sun Nov 21 03:29:49 2004

Message:
Not What You Think 
 
by Charley Reese 
With all of the political hoopla and heifer dust that is spread 
about the Middle East, you might think we are totally dependent 
on Middle Eastern oil. Actually, we are not.

The United States imports about 62 percent of its oil and other 
petroleum products. Only about 11 percent of domestic usage 
comes from the Persian Gulf countries. Saudi Arabia, for 
example, supplies about 7.2 percent of domestic usage.

Our main imports by far come from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, and 
Nigeria. From January to July 2004, Saudi Arabia was fourth, 
just ahead of Nigeria and behind Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela. 
Iraq was sixth. These figures [.pdf] are from the American 
Petroleum Institute.

We are bogged down in the Middle East because of Israel, not 
oil. Iraq was perceived as a threat to Israel, not to Saudi 
Arabia and certainly not to us. A man who at one time prepared 
the president's daily intelligence briefing told me years ago 
that there was never any indication whatsoever that Iraq was 
going to invade Saudi Arabia. We just used that as an excuse for 
the first Gulf War.

The majority of American diplomatic efforts in the Middle East 
are directed at trying to persuade Arab countries to accept 
Israel. Their relationship to Israel is really none of our 
business.

I realize that members of a Christian cult that originated in 
the 19th century believe they have a biblical obligation to love 
Israel. Well, people are entitled to their religious beliefs, 
but none of them has any business being used as a basis for 
American foreign policy. We have one, and only one, interest in 
the Middle East. That is access, at a fair market price, to oil. 
Whether the countries from which we buy oil like or don't like 
Israel, are democracies or monarchies or dictatorships, is 
immaterial and irrelevant.

I harbor no ill feelings toward Israel. In many ways, it is an 
admirable country, but it is a foreign country, and the United 
States should treat Israel the same as it treats every other 
foreign nation. We should make it clear, for example, that 
Israel's enemies are not our enemies. If the Israelis and the 
Syrians don't get along, that's their business. Our relations 
with Syria should be based strictly on how Syria treats 
Americans and America's interests.

Unfortunately, Israel has a very powerful lobby in the United 
States. Even though our intelligence people said Syria was 
cooperating with the United States in the war on terrorism, we 
nevertheless applied sanctions, not because of anything Syria 
said about us or did, but because Syria allows some Palestinian 
organizations opposed to Israeli occupation to operate inside 
Syria.

When Jimmy Carter was president, we ended up in effect paying 
bribes both to Israel and to Egypt so they would sign a peace 
treaty. That was a dumb thing to do. It was in their interest, 
not ours, to sign a peace treaty. Why should the American 
taxpayers be dunned to pay for it?
 

From: Noam The Bony Bone
To: all the filthy morbidly obese white pasaty yank FUCKS who have sex with their rifles while sexually molesting each other!
Subject: The whole underlying basis of the neoconservative cockamamie idea of democratizing the Middle East at the point of a gun is the theory that if the Arab countries are democracies, they will accept and get along with Israel. I seriously doubt that, as their dispute with Israel is not over forms of government but over Arab land Israel has seized and refuses to relinquish.
Date: Sun Nov 21 02:26:39 2004

Message:
The whole underlying basis of the neoconservative cockamamie 
idea of democratizing the Middle East at the point of a gun is 
the theory that if the Arab countries are democracies, they will 
accept and get along with Israel. I seriously doubt that, as 
their dispute with Israel is not over forms of government but 
over Arab land Israel has seized and refuses to relinquish.

George Washington advised us to harbor neither habitual enmity 
nor habitual friendship for any foreign country. He also advised 
us to beware of foreign influence in our domestic affairs. Both 
pieces of good advice, and both ignored because too many 
politicians in Washington are wet-pants scared of the Israeli 
lobby.

We should not be involved in the Middle East at all except as 
purchasers of oil, but we will go on spending treasure and blood 
in that area until the American people elect some politicians 
brave enough to face down the Israeli lobby.

Establishing a modern state of Israel in the middle of the Arab 
world was a British colonial idea. Americans should not pay with 
their lives and tax dollars for a British blunder.

From: Noam the Insurgent Abstergent Bone
To: all the filthy fat fucks out there: i.e. ameriKKKans!! They ARE ABSOLUTE CUNTS!!!
Subject: Counterinsurgency run amok
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
Counterinsurgency run amok 
By Pepe Escobar 

"The people who are doing the beheadings are extremists ... the 
people slaughtering Iraqis - torturing in prisons and shooting 
wounded prisoners - are 'American heroes'. Congratulations, you 
must be so proud of yourselves today." 
- Iraqi girl blogger Riverbend 
http://www.boycottusa.org
Whom are you going to trust: Fallujah civilians who risked their 
lives to escape, witnesses such as Associated Press photographer 
Bilal Hussein, hospital doctors, Amnesty International, top 
United Nations human-rights official Louise Arbour, the 
International Committee of the Red Cross; or the Pentagon and US-
installed Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi? 

On the humanitarian front, Fallujah is a tragedy. The city has 
virtually been reduced to rubble. Remaining residents, the Red 
Cross confirms, are eating roots and burying the dead in their 
gardens. There's no medicine in the hospitals to help anybody. 
The wounded are left to die in the streets - their remains to be 
consumed by packs of stray dogs. As Iraqresistance.net, a Europe-
wide collective, puts it, "World governments, international 
organizations, nobody raises a finger to stop the killing." The 
global reaction is apathy. 

Civilians? What civilians? 
Asia Times Online sources in Baghdad confirm the anger across 
the Sunni heartland - even among moderates - against the 
occupation and Allawi has reached incendiary proportions. His 
credibility - already low before the Fallujah massacre - is now 
completely gone. 

Allawi insists on the record that not a single civilian has died 
in Fallujah. Obviously nobody in his cabinet told him what 
Baghdad is talking about - the hundreds of rotting corpses in 
the streets, the thousands of civilians still trapped inside 
their homes, starving, many of them wounded, with no water and 
no medical aid. And nobody has told him of dozens of children 
now in Baghdad's Naaman hospital who lost their limbs, victims 
of US air strikes and artillery shells. 

A top Red Cross official in Baghdad now estimates that at least 
800 civilians have been killed so far - and this is a "low" 
figure, based on accounts by Red Crescent aid workers barred by 
the Americans from entering the city, residents still inside 
Fallujah, and refugees now huddling in camps in the desert near 
Fallujah. The refugees tell horror stories - including 
confirmation, already reported by Asia Times Online, of the 
Americans using cluster bombs and spraying white phosphorus, a 
banned chemical weapon. 

The talk in the streets of Baghdad, always referring to accounts 
by families and friends in and around Fallujah, confirms that 
there have been hundreds of civilian deaths. Moreover, according 
to the Red Cross official, since September Allawi's Ministry of 
Health has not provided any medical supplies to hospitals and 
clinics in Fallujah: "The hospitals do not even have aspirin," 
he said, confirming many accounts in these past few days from 
despairing Fallujah doctors. The official spoke on condition of 
anonymity for fear of US military reprisal. 

Even submitted to media blackout - an al-Arabiya reporter, for 
instance, was arrested by the Americans because he was trying to 
enter Fallujah - the Arab press is slowly waking up to the full 
extent of the tragedy, not only on networks such as al-Jazeera 
and al-Arabiya, but also in newspapers like the pro-American 
Saudi daily Asharq a-Awsat. Our sources say that most of Baghdad 
and the whole Sunni triangle is already convinced that the 
Americans "captured" Fallujah general hospital, bombed at least 
two clinics and are preventing the Red Crescent from delivering 
urgent help because as many bodies as possible must be removed 
before any independent observers have a chance to evaluate the 
real extent of the carnage. 

Al-Jazeera continues to apologize for not offering more in-depth 
coverage, always reminding its viewers that its Baghdad bureau 
was shut down indefinitely by Allawi in August. But many in the 
Arab world saw its interview with Dr Asma Khamis al-Muhannadi of 
Fallujah's general hospital, invaded and "captured" by the 
marines. She confirmed that "we were tied up and beaten despite 
being unarmed and having only our medical instruments"; and that 
the hospital was targeted by bombs and rockets during the 
initial siege of Fallujah. When the marines came she "was with a 
woman in labor. The umbilical cord had not yet been cut. At that 
time, a US soldier shouted at one of the [Iraqi] National Guards 
to arrest me and tie my hands while I was helping the mother to 
deliver. I will never forget this incident in my life." 

Crucially, Dr al-Muhannadi also confirmed that American snipers 
killed more than 17 Iraqi doctors who had mobilized to answer an 
appeal from Fallujah's doctors broadcast on al-Jazeera: 
information on the massacre has been circulating in Baghdad for 
days. Amnesty International, based on the account of a doctor at 
the scene, says that 20 Fallujah medical staff and dozens of 
civilians were killed when an American missile destroyed a 
clinic on November 9. 
http://www.boycottusa.org
The failure of 'Iraqification' 
On the military front, roughly 3,000 urban guerrillas with 
mortars, Kalashnikovs and rocket-propelled grenades have 
resisted more than 12,000 marines supported by F-16s, AC-130 
gunships, Cobra and Apache helicopters, an array of missiles, 
500-pound and 2,000-pound bombs, tanks and Bradleys. Sources in 
Baghdad close to the resistance tell Asia Times Online that at 
least 200 marines are dead, and more than 800 wounded. The 
Pentagon - exercising total media blackout - will only admit to 
about 50 dead and 350 wounded. Allawi and his cabinet are 
spinning more than 1,600 "insurgents" dead; the resistance so 
far only admits to a little more than 100. 

The resistance says that dozens of marine snipers have taken six 
or seven positions along Tharthar Street, the main street 
leading to Ramadi, and a few buildings overlooking the Euphrates 
in western Fallujah. But residents seem to be free to move in 
the narrow alleyways: the Americans only control the main roads. 
According to resistance reports, the mujahideen are constantly 
changing their positions, moving apparently undetected inside 
the areas they still control and reinforcing different 
neighborhoods with more cells of five to 20 fighters each. 

"Iraqification" - the Mesopotamian counterpart of 
Vietnamization - is floundering. After 19 months of occupation, 
the Pentagon still has not been able to put an Iraqi army in 
place. Baghdad sources confirm the backup plan has been to give 
US troops a counterinsurgency field manual. (The exhaustive 182-
page document will be discussed in a separate article.) 

During the Vietnam War, counterinsurgency was conducted by 
Special Forces. In Vietnam, the US simply did not understand 
that the force of the resistance was its complex clandestine 
infrastructure. By killing indiscriminately in covert operations 
like Operation Phoenix, the Americans totally alienated the 
average Vietnamese. 

In Multitude: War and Democracy in the Age of Empire (Penguin 
Press, New York, 2004), Tony Negri and Michael Hardt, discussing 
counterinsurgencies, point out how "guerrilla forces cannot 
survive without the support of the population and a superior 
knowledge of the social and physical terrain". They could be 
describing the guerrillas in the Sunni triangle. "Guerrillas 
force the dominant military power to live in a state of 
perpetual paranoia." In asymmetrical wars like Vietnam and Iraq, 
US counterinsurgency tactics must not only lead to a military 
victory but to control of the enemy with "social, political, 
ideological and psychological weapons". There's ample evidence 
these tactics are failing in Iraq. 

Like a fish out of water 
Negri and Hardt argue that in counterinsurgency "success does 
not require attacking the enemy directly but destroying the 
environment, physical and social, that supports it. Take away 
the water and the fish will die. This strategy of destroying the 
support environment led, for example, to indiscriminate bombings 
in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, to widespread killing, torture 
and harassment of peasants in Central and South America." This -
 "take away the water and the fish will die" - is exactly what's 
happening in Fallujah. And it won't work, because "the many 
noncombatants who suffer cannot be called collateral damage 
because they are in fact the direct targets, even if their 
destruction is really a means to attack the primary enemy". 
Fallujah's population has been the direct target this time - 
the "water" that was essential to the resistance "fish". 

But the "fish" are always able to turn the tables "as the 
rebellious groups develop more complex, distributed network 
structures. As the enemy becomes increasingly dispersed, 
unlocalizable, and unknowable, the support environment becomes 
increasingly large and indiscriminate." This is exactly the post-
Fallujah scenario - see The real fury of Fallujah, November 10. 

The political infrastructure in Iraq controlled by the Ba'ath 
Party for many decades has integrated most of the Islamic 
resistance groups under its command with great efficiency. It 
has also managed to infiltrate and smash the Iraqi 
counterinsurgency force that the Americans were trying to 
assemble. The new counterinsurgency field manual means that 
unlike Vietnam, counterinsurgency is now being conducted by 
marines and GIs. Intuitively, the totally alienated population 
of the Sunni triangle (the "water") has already identified the 
threat. 

Iraqification mimics Vietnamization in at least one aspect: the 
logic of collective punishment (once again "take away the water 
and the fish will die"). The Fallujah assault proved that for 
the Pentagon every Sunni Iraqi is the enemy. 

The Pentagon maintains there are no civilians in Fallujah. The 
horror faced by these "invisible" civilians has not even begun 
to emerge, even though precision-strike democracy is being 
denounced by those who risked their lives to escape. The "water" 
is represented by the "invisible" civilian population in 
Fallujah. 

In yet another echo of Vietnam, for the Pentagon any dead Iraqi 
in Fallujah is a dead guerrilla fighter - and just like in 
Vietnam this figure includes "noncombatants", women and 
children. In Fallujah, the Pentagon declared, after fully 
encircling the city, that women, children and the elderly might 
leave, but not men and boys from ages 15 to 55. This implies 
that most of the 50,000 to 100,000 civilians trapped in the city 
may be these men and boys - many with no taste for war - along 
with the unlucky elderly, women and children who were too poor 
to leave. But under Pentagon logic the problem is solved: 
everyone inside the city is a fighter. Thus no need for relief 
from the Iraqi Red Crescent or anyone else. 

Counterinsurgency meets 'invisible' civilians
In a press conference in Baghdad, Allawi's Interior Minister 
Faleh Hassan al-Naqib finally was forced to admit what Asia 
Times Online and an array of independent media have been 
reporting since the spring of 2003: that the resistance spans 
the whole Sunni heartland, not only Fallujah and the Sunni 
triangle (a lot of "water" for a few thousand "fish"); that the 
resistance is unified under some form of central command and 
control, and is not a bunch of uncoordinated groups; that the 
majority, at least 95%, are Iraqis, and not "foreign fighters" 
(thus ridiculing the Pentagon's designation of the resistance 
as "anti-Iraqi forces"); that former Ba'ath Party officials and 
former Iraqi army officers are essential protagonists; and that 
they have prepared for urban guerrilla warfare long before the 
US invasion. 

With Fallujah, the guerrilla strategy has changed. No more 
occupying a territory that could be organized as a safe haven 
(the city of Fallujah, for instance). The guerrillas are now 
network-centered. Negri and Hardt: "The network tends to 
transform every boundary into a threshold. Networks are in this 
sense essentially elusive, ephemeral, perpetually in flight ... 
And, even more frighteningly, the network can appear anywhere at 
any time." Think of the new Iraqi resistance as small, mobile 
armies striking in Baqubah, Samarra and Mosul, running away and 
melting into the local population, which fully supports them. 
This is pure Vietminh tactics - Saddam Hussein's officers were 
all keen students of the Vietnam War. 

The Americans in Iraq are now confronting a network enemy. Negri 
and Hardt say that "confronting a network enemy can certainly 
throw an old form of power into a state of universal paranoia". 
Thus the fiction of "invisible" civilians in Fallujah. Thus 
the "capture" of Fallujah general hospital. Thus destroying 
Fallujah in order to "save it". Thus the marine executing a 
wounded man, on camera, inside a mosque. Thus the Vietnam 
nightmare all over again. 
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From: Noam The Bone
To: all the sick fucking vote riggin seppo cunts
Subject: Unofficial Audit of NC Election: Comprehensive Case for Fraud
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
Unofficial Audit of NC Election: Comprehensive Case for Fraud 
 

 Sorry for the numbers. This is a long and comprehensive report, 
so please stay with me -- it offers what I believe to be a 
strong case that election tampering took place, and I want to 
carefully establish the facts. I think it may be the first deep 
examination inside the numbers of a given state -- not just 
speculation -- but real data collection and questionable results 
put to the test.

BeFree asked me a few days ago to look over the North Carolina 
election returns. Things looked funny. They were way out of sync 
with the exit polls and no one could believe that Erskine Bowles 
had lost in the Senate race. The deeper I looked at the figures, 
the more things began to look disturbing. I downloaded the 
precinct data and began to pour through it for clues. Then I saw 
that the absentee vote (which apparently also includes the early 
voting data) was huge, comprising more than *a million votes* 
and nearly a full third of the total vote (30%). It offered the 
chance to compare an unadulterated voting pattern against the 
strange results of election day. I reasoned with an early vote 
that large, it is no longer a sample but a benchmark. The nearer 
one approaches 100%, the more accurate the picture of the whole. 
At one third, any inconsistencies should even out -- even if 
more white suburban Republicans voted by absentee (as has been 
charged in the past with smaller samples) or if the Democratic 
GOTV pushed our early numbers (as has been assumed for this 
election). In that respect, I was lucky to have looked at North 
Carolina -- it's not as crazed as the battleground states and 
the electorate is nicely split between parties. Any 
inconsistencies of one side dominating the early vote would have 
showed up in the data -- they didn't.

With that in mind, I began an informal review of the NC absentee 
vote. What I found was stunning, and I believe it should have 
national implications. I have little doubt that we will find the 
same thing elsewhere by using benchmark absentee data against 
election day returns. It not only reflects the pattern of exit 
poll discrepancy we saw throughout the country, but it also 
makes a compelling case for purposeful tampering with the 
electronic data. I also think it reveals the three objectives of 
the Bush re-election campaign: 1) re-election 2) mandate 3) 
strong Senate majority.

All of the absentee information was buried in the precinct data, 
hundreds of thousands of lines worth, and had to be pulled out 
before a comparison could be made. Before we look inside the 
numbers, note that of the 102 North Carolina counties, 2 have 
not yet posted absentee data, Catawba and Lee. It may well be in 
the precinct data but mislabeled or combined in some way. The NC 
Board of Elections said that both counties have reported, but 
weren't sure where it was recorded -- I'm awaiting a call back 
with the information. My estimate based on Catawba's demographic 
similarity to Davidson would shift the absentee percentages by 
0.6% in the Republican's favor, so bear in mind that I've not 
incorporated it into the data and the consistency is going to be 
even better than represented. Catawba has a strong Republican 
base (47,923 to 33,024 registered Republicans to Democrats) and 
is heavily White (91,141 white to 7619 black registrants). As it 
is now, the absentee/early vote is almost precisely balanced 
statistically with the final results. Lee county is much smaller 
and has 16,391 Democrats to 9149 Republicans (again mostly 
white) -- it likely would have little impact on the percentages.

Now, here is the absentee data for all the statewide offices, 
followed by the overall vote, and then the poll-only results 
(obtained by subtracting the absentee data from the overall 
figures). The poll-only data is important as it gives us an 
isolated snapshot of the results that were returned on election 
day.

GOVERNOR (Absentee)
Mike Easley (DEM): 573,120 (55.6%)
Patrick J. Ballantine (REP): 445,505 (43.2%) -12.4
Other: 12,490 (1.2%)

GOVERNOR (Overall)
Mike Easley (DEM): 1,939,137 (55.6%)
Patrick J. Ballantine (REP): 1,495,032 (42.9%) -12.7
Other: 52,512 (1.5%)

GOVERNOR (Poll only)
Mike Easley (DEM): 1,366,017 (55.6%)
Patrick J. Ballantine (REP): 1,049,527 (42.7%) -12.9
Other: 40,022 (1.6%)

Already we notice that the Democrat, Easley, ran consistently at 
55.6% at the polls, in the absentee, and in the poll-only vote. 
The Republican, Ballantine, actually did very slightly better in 
the absentee. But this is the overall pattern of consistency in 
all the statewide races (except for Senate and President which 
I'll hold till last). There is one other important hidden 
benchmark we can measure here, percentage of turnout. Perhaps 
the Democrats had more early/absentee voters and the Republicans 
had a bigger election day turnout? Well, we can figure that by 
dividing Easley's absentees by his overall votes (573,120 
divided by 1,939,137) to find a ratio of 30% for the Democrat. 
And then do the same for the Republican Ballantine to also get a 
ratio of 30%. Both Democrats and Republicans turned out in equal 
numbers in early voting and at the polls. Thank you, North 
Carolina.

To establish the point of consistency, here are the comparisons 
of all the other statewide races. It's a lot of numbers, most 
all of them in the same percentile range, but it was important 
to establish that there was a clear, obvious, and unaccounted 
diversion from the norm in both the Senate and Presidential 
races, so I spent a couple of twelve hour days and went through 
all the statewide numbers including the amendment votes.

MAJOR RACES

*******************
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR (Absentee)
Beverly Eaves Perdue (DEM): 561,584 (55.7%)
Jim Snyder (REP): 433,112 (43.0%) 
Other: 13,217 (1.3%)

LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR (Overall)
Beverly Eaves Perdue (DEM): 1,888,382 (55.6%)
Jim Snyder (REP): 1,453,711 (42.8%) 
Other: 56,367 (1.6%)

LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR (Poll Only)
Beverly Eaves Perdue (DEM): 1,326,798 (55.5%) 
Jim Snyder (REP): 1,020,599 (42.7%) 
Other: 43,150 (1.8%)

*******************
SECRETARY OF STATE (Absentee)
Elaine F. Marshall (DEM): 575,045 (58.0%)
Jay Rao (REP): 416,145 (42.0%) 

SECRETARY OF STATE (Overall)
Elaine F. Marshall (DEM): 1,911,570 (57.3%)
Jay Rao (REP) 1,423,115 (42.7%) 

SECRETARY OF STATE (Poll Only)
Elaine F. Marshall (DEM): 1,336,525 (57.0%)
Jay Rao (REP): 1,006,970 (43.0%) 

******************
ATTORNEY GENERAL (absentee)
Roy Cooper (DEM): 546,477 (56.7%)
Joe Knott (REP): 417,824 (43.3%) 

ATTORNEY GENERAL (overall)
Roy Cooper (DEM): 1,869,699 (55.6%)
Joe Knott (REP): 1,493,061 (44.4%)


ATTORNEY GENERAL (poll-only)
Roy Cooper (DEM): 1,323,222 (55.2%)
Joe Knott (REP): 1,075,237 (44.8%) 

******************

OTHER STATEWIDE RACES:


******************
AUDITOR (absentee)
Leslie Merritt (REP): 476,257 (48.6%)
Ralph Campbell (DEM): 503,250 (51.4%) 

AUDITOR (overall)
Leslie Merritt (REP): 1,662,361 (50.4%)
Ralph Campbell (DEM): 1,633,622 (49.6%) 

AUDITOR (poll-only)
Leslie Merritt (REP): 1,186,104 (51.2%)
Ralph Campbell (DEM): 1,130,372 (48.8%) 

*********************
COMMISSIONER OF AGRICULTURE (absentee)
Steve Troxler (REP): 478,794 (48.6%)
Britt Cobb (DEM): 506,613 (51.4%)

COMMISSIONER OF AGRICULTURE (overall)
Steve Troxler (REP): 1,665,678 (50.04%)
Britt Cobb (DEM): 1,663,022 (49.96%) 

COMMISSIONER OF AGRICULTURE (poll-only)
Steve Troxler (REP): 1,186,884 (50.7%)
Britt Cobb (DEM): 1,156,409 (49.3%) 

**********************
COMMISSIONER OF INSURANCE (absentee)
Jim Long (DEM): 582,238 (58.4%)
C. Robert Brawley (REP): 414,204 (41.6%)

COMMISSIONER OF INSURANCE (overall)
Jim Long (DEM): 1,934,061 (57.6%)
C. Robert Brawley (REP): 1,421,404 (42.4%)

COMMISSIONER OF INSURANCE (poll only)
Jim Long (DEM): 1,351,823 (57.3%)
C. Robert Brawley (REP): 1,007,200 (42.7%)

**************************
COMMISSIONER OF LABOR (absentee)
Cherie Berry (REP): 475,570 (50.2%)
Wayne Goodwin (DEM): 472,632 (49.8%)

COMMISSIONER OF LABOR (overall)
Cherie Berry (REP): 1,721,841 (52.1%)
Wayne Goodwin (DEM): 1,582,253 (47.9%)

COMMISSIONER OF LABOR (poll only)
Cherie Berry (REP): 1,246,271 (52.9%)
Wayne Goodwin (DEM): 1,109,621 (47.1%)

***********************
SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION (absentee)
June S. Atkinson (DEM): 507,523 (51.7%)
Bill Fletcher (REP): 473,991 (48.3%)

SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION (overall)
June S. Atkinson (DEM): 1,656,092 (50.1%)
Bill Fletcher (REP): 1,646,838 (49.9%)

SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION (poll only)
June S. Atkinson (DEM): 1,148,569 (49.5%)
Bill Fletcher (REP): 1,172,847 (50.5%)

**************************
TREASURER (absentee)
Richard H. Moore (DEM): 546,160 (55.3%)
Edward A. Meyer (REP): 440,871 (44.7%)

TREASURER (overall)
Richard H. Moore (DEM): 1,812,182 (54.5%) 
Edward A. Meyer (REP): 1,512,628 (45.5%)

TREASURER (poll only)
Richard H. Moore (DEM): 1,266,022 (54.2%)
Edward A. Meyer (REP): 1,071,757 (45.8%)

*******************************
NC Constitutional Amendment 1 (absentee)
FOR: 432,697 (51.7%)
AGAINST: 403,475 (48.3%)

NC Constitutional Amendment 1 (overall)
FOR: 1,494,789 (51.2%)
AGAINST: 1,423,195 (48.8%)

NC Constitutional Amendment 1 (poll only)
FOR: 1,062,092 (51.0%)
AGAINST: 1,019,720 (49.0%)

****************************
NC Constitutional Amendment 2 (absentee)
FOR: 679,434 (78.6%)
AGAINST: 185,101 (21.4%)

NC Constitutional Amendment 2 (overall)
FOR: 2,334,683 (78.0%)
AGAINST: 659,532 (22.0%)

NC Constitutional Amendment 2 (poll only)
FOR: 1,655,249 (77.7%)
AGAINST: 474,431 (22.3%)

****************************
NC Constitutional Amendment 3 (absentee)
FOR: 591,122 (68.7%)
AGAINST: 269,641 (31.3%)

NC Constitutional Amendment 3 (overall)
FOR: 1,984,151 (68.0%)
AGAINST: 933,021 (32.0%)

NC Constitutional Amendment 3 (poll only)
FOR: 1,393,029 (67.7%)
AGAINST: 663,380 (32.3%)

****************************

Of all the statewide races, the only other votes that may raise 
red flags are the Labor and Agriculture Commissioners, though 
likely the Catawba data will pull them into line. But none of 
the races showed anywhere near the unexplained swing of the 
Senate race.

*************************
SENATOR (absentee)
Richard Burr (REP): 492,166 49.48%
Erskine Bowles (DEM): 492,536 49.52% .04
Other: 9,917 1%

SENATOR (overall)
Richard Burr (REP): 1,791,460 51.6%
Erskine Bowles (DEM): 1,632,509 47.0% -4.6
Other: 48,103 1.4%

SENATOR (poll only)
Richard Burr (REP): 1,299,294 52.4%
Erskine Bowles (DEM): 1,139,973 46.0% -6.4
Others: 38,186 1.5%


*************************

WOW. With essentially the same vote demographics in the absentee 
and the poll, there was a sudden shift of 6.4% of the vote 
toward the Republican. That's more than a little alarming and is 
in itself enough to call into question the legitimacy of the 
election day vote. North Carolinians in this forum can speak to 
this, but Bowles is generally well liked. There is absolutely 
nothing to account for the bizarre drop of support in the 
electorate by 6.4% between the early voting (mostly the week 
prior) and election day. But when we compare it to the 
Presidential race, it is dwarfed by absurdity.

*************************
PRESIDENT (absentee)
George W. Bush: 529,755 52.9%
John F. Kerry: 469,522 46.9% -6.0
Others: 2749 0.2%

PRESIDENT (overall)
George W. Bush: 1,961,188 56.0%
John F. Kerry: 1,525,821 43.6% -12.4
Others: 13,989 0.4%

PRESIDENT (poll only)
George W. Bush: 1,431,433 57.3%
John F. Kerry: 1,056,299 42.3% -15.0
Others: 11,240 0.4%

**************************

So what the heck is going on here??? Kerry was behind by 6 
points in the absentee/early voting. The result is consistent 
with the pre-election polls and most importantly with the exit 
polls of November 2nd. THE EXIT POLLS TELL US THAT PEOPLE VOTED 
IDENTICALLY TO THE OTHER THIRD OF THE ELECTORATE. By all 
standards of reason, the other two-thirds of the vote should be 
very close to the same result. But look at what happens -- a 
sudden and unexplained plummet in the very same electorate of 
NINE POINTS at the election day polls, more than doubling 
Kerry's overall margin of defeat. A 15 point edge for Bush in 
North Carolina on election day??? Come on -- I'm not that 
gullible. I honestly don't know how to account for that outside 
of computer programming -- and if it's there, there's a damn 
good case with the nationwide inconsistencies between exit polls 
and results on election day to say that it follows everywhere 
electronic tabulation goes. My gut tells me that this is why 
there is a reluctance in Florida and Ohio to push the absentee 
counting and that the ballots and counts had best be watched 
very damn closely. They present a paper trail challenge that if 
understood will provide a key benchmark for election day fraud. 
I also want to point out that the differential was not there 
prior to election day -- meaning there either had to be a *date 
specific* alteration in the software, a hack, or a specific 
activation just prior to the election. And lastly, it is not 
only the Presidential election day vote that is spurious -- the 
close Senate races also bear close scrutiny.

(Also posted to the NC Forum.)
 
 

From: Noam The 911 Bone
To: all you lame-ass yanks out there
Subject: Teddy Roosevelt, Twenty-sixth President of these united States of America said this: "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does NOT mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country."
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
Teddy Roosevelt, Twenty-sixth President of these united States 
of America said this: "Patriotism means to stand by the country. 
It does NOT mean to stand by the President or any other public 
official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands 
by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he 
efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose 
him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he 
fails in his duty to stand by the country."
HOW DARE FAMILIES & SURVIVORS OF 9/11 QUESTION GOVERNMENT 
VERSION! 

By: Devvy

November15, 2004 

NewsWithViews.com

For three plus years, families of those murdered on September 
11, 2001, and survivors of that horrible day have been raising 
legitimate, valid questions about what really happened. They 
have done so, along with more and more Americans, because there 
are unanswered questions that have been met with silence and 
stonewalling. Because upon closer scrutiny, there are more holes 
in the official version than a mountain range of Swiss cheese. 
Yet, other Americans, primarily those who describe themselves as 
Christian conservatives, call anyone who raises questions about 
9-11 traitors, wackos, off the wall and so forth. 

These are people who haven't looked into the matter any deeper 
than what they saw on the news that day. These are people who 
listen to popular "conservative" pundits on TV and radio who 
tell their listeners and viewers not to pay any attention to all 
these wackos. People who have family serving in the military who 
are deployed in the Middle East and are terrified that this 
whole "war on terrorism" just might have been built on a 
mountain of lies, an unbearable thing to contemplate. 

My last column on Christmas for our troops brought a half dozen 
pieces of hate mail because I stated my opposition to the 
unconstitutional invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. One man 
said, "You are DISGUSTING.......REAL AMERICANS will support our 
troops AND their Pres." I guess he was implying that I'm a fake 
American. Spoken like a true slave. Another lady wrote, "My son 
is being deployed to Baghdad December 21st. He and 41 other 
brave men from his base VOLUNTEERED knowing they would miss 
Christmas with their families. My son will also be missing our 
granddaughters 4th birthday. This Thanksgiving we will be most 
thankful to the 59 million people in this great country who re-
elected George Bush to a second term. While I will worry about 
our son and every other service person in harms way, I am 
relieved that the traitor J. Kerry will NOT be being sworn in in 
January." 

Teddy Roosevelt, Twenty-sixth President of these united States 
of America said this: "Patriotism means to stand by the country. 
It does NOT mean to stand by the President or any other public 
official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands 
by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he 
efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose 
him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he 
fails in his duty to stand by the country." 

Blind loyalty is a very dangerous path to follow. Who knows who 
actually won the election earlier this month? The vote fraud is 
massive. There are some incredibly dedicated people out there 
compiling the evidence and perhaps a year down the road, we'll 
get a good accounting. I have never supported John Kerry nor did 
I vote for Bush; I voted for Michael Peroutka. I have never once 
said I don't support our troops. What I have said is that what 
Bush is doing is an unconstitutional use of our military. His 
phony 'nation building' will never bring "democracy to Iraq," 
even if that were a desirable form of government, which it is 
not. 

Nation building is and always has been a loser. Over the past 
decade, Clinton and Bush have unconstitutionally deployed our 
military and unconstitutionally spent hundreds of billions of 
borrowed dollars for "nation building." Every single one of 
these forays, driven by lust for power and to cement a one world 
order, has met with dismal failure. There has been no stable 
self-sustaining nations come out of Bosnia, Somalia, Kosovo, 
Haiti, Afghanistan or Iraq and there never will be. Right now 
over in Iraq, the cry is the same old one, "Yankee go home." 

 

My heart bleeds for all these families who have sons, husbands, 
brothers and sisters serving in the Middle East. More than a 
thousand of our own have died, close to 10,000 seriously 
wounded. It is now estimated that we have killed 100,000 people 
in Iraq, mostly civilians including women and children. We are 
dropping bombs with depleted uranium and if people don't know 
the consequences of this, I respectfully recommend they get the 
truth. The bottom line is that this "war on terrorism" is a 
direct result of September 11, 2001 and justification for Bush's 
unconstitutional invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. That's what 
scares the hell out of the Bush faithful: the possibility 
they've been had and "My, God, what have we done?" 

The New Pearl Harbor 

I have finished reading The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing 
Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11 (200 pgs) by 
Professor David Ray Griffin. This book is quite different than 
Crossing the Rubicon (657 pgs). On page 15 of Crossing, author 
Michael Ruppert comes right now with this statement: "...the 
evidence will inexorably prove our case: that the United States 
government not only had complete foreknowledge of the attacks on 
September 11th, it also needed them and deliberately facilitated 
them, and even helped plan and execute them using techniques 
long understood in the world of covert operations." This is a 
very strong statement and before one writes it off as looney 
conspiracy stuff, they should read this book backed up with 900 
foot note sources. 

As for The New Pearl Harbor, the author himself says in the 
introduction that until spring of 2003, he "...had not looked at 
any of the evidence. I was vaguely aware that there were people, 
at least on the Internet, who were offering evidence against the 
official account of 9/11 and were suggesting a revisionist 
account...I did not take the time to find their web sites...I 
had been studying the history of AMerican expansionism and 
imperialism quite intensely since 9/11, so I knew that the U.S. 
government has fabricated "incidents" as an excuse to go to war 
several times before. Nevertheless, although the thought did 
cross my mind that 9/11 might likewise have been arranged, I did 
not take this possibility seriously. It seemed to me simply 
beyond belief that the Bush administration - even the Bush - 
administration - would not do such a heinous thing." 

By the end of the book, you will see that Professor Griffin's 
own research led him to have a completely different take on 9/11 
with many unanswered questions because the official story and 
evidence that has been gathered doesn't wash. This man is highly 
educated and the facts as we know them, along with the physical 
evidence available, have convinced Griffin that things did not 
happen the way they have been sold to the American people. He 
doesn't accuse anyone of anything, but does come to some 
conclusions that most Americans don't want to hear. He brings 
the reader the facts and at the end, they will have just as many 
questions as he does about what really happened. 

Griffin has been Professor of Philosophy of Religion at the 
Claremont School of Theology in California for over 30 years and 
has authored more than 20 books. Sounds like a real wacko to me. 
While Crossing the Rubicon painstakingly brings the reader from 
the genesis of "peak oil" through 9/11 with precision, Professor 
Griffin approaches that day in a slightly different manner. In 
razor sharp style, Griffin brings into focus why a real 
independent investigation must be undertaken. He brings out even 
more questions about the official account in a very balanced, 
intelligent, comprehensive manner - including why Rudy Guiliani 
should questioned under oath about the events leading up to and 
including that day. 

For those about to launch more hate mail excoriating me for 
bringing up this subject, I would ask these angry GOP Bush 
faithful to ask themselves how come five of the 19 so-called 
hijackers have been proven to be alive and wondering why their 
names and faces are on the FBI list of dead terrorists? How 
could the FAA, NORAD, the CIA and FBI all be so incredibly 
incompetent - all at the same time? There is no proof a 
commercial airliner hit the Pentagon. More than likely it was a 
military plane, a "friendly," which is why the Pentagon's 
sophisticated missile defense system didn't fire at the incoming 
plane. If Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon, where are the 
passengers? Based on the military exercises going on that day, 
many of us believe we know what happened, but only a truly 
independent investigation with a lot of high level government 
officials put under oath, including Bush, is going to give us 
the answers. 

There is one thing we all can do. Thankfully, John Ashcroft is 
leaving. Bush intends to replace him with a new thug, Alberto 
Gonzales. Ashcroft has refused to release all the videos from 
the Pentagon "attack." I would like everyone to file a Freedom 
of Information Act with the Department of Justice asking for a 
copy of all their videos (click here). It's time we the people 
put some real pressure on the Justice Department. Instructions 
on how to file a FOIA is found here. 

Tell the families of 9/11 to shut up and go away! 

That was actually a demand shouted at me in an e-mail by some 
chowder head who crowed that Bush is the best president since 
Ronald Reagan! Where does Dunderhead get off demanding that 
these good, decent, Americans who have lost their loved ones 
shut up and go away? With all due respect to that e-mailer, he 
should read the research on my CD regarding KAL Flight 007 and 
then come back and tell me Ronald Reagan is a saint. He was a 
pretty good president, but the events following KAL 007 clearly 
show a cover up - a cover up that Reagan knowingly and willfully 
participated in. Here are a few of the family members this e-
mailer wants to just shut up and go away who only want the 
truth: 

Carol Ashley, mother of Janice Ashley, 25, Fred Alger 
Management, 93rd floor, WTC Tower One; Kristen Breitweiser, wife 
of Ronald Breitweiser, 39, Fiduciary Trust International, WTC 
Tower Two; Patty Casazza, wife of John F. Casazza, 38, Cantor 
Fitzgerald, 104th floor, WTC Tower One; Beverly Eckert, wife of 
Sean Rooney Aon, WTC Tower Two; Mary Fetchet, mother of Bradley 
James Fetchet, 24, Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, 89th floor, WTC 
Tower Two; Monica Gabrielle , wife of Richard Gabrielle Aon, 33; 
WTC Tower Two; 

Bill Harvey, husband of Sara Manley Harvey, 31, Fred Alger 
Management, 93rd floor, WTC Tower One; Mindy Kleinberg, wife of 
Alan Kleinberg, 39, Cantor Fitzgerald, 104th floor, WTC Tower 
One; Carie Lemack, daughter of Judy Larocque, Market 
Perspectives; passenger, American Airlines Flight 11; Sally 
Regenhard, mother of Christian Michael Otto Regenhard, 28, 
Probationary Firefighter, L131, Red Hook, missing at WTC; Lorie 
Van Auken, wife of Kenneth Van Auken, 47, Cantor Fitzgerald, 
105th floor, WTC Tower One; Robin Wiener, sister of Jeffrey 
Wiener, 33, Marsh Risk Technologies, 96th floor, WTC Tower One 

For Shawn Hannity and other high paid media pundits who call the 
people above kooks, nuts, conspiracy theorists and unpatriotic 
for questioning the events of 9/11: who gives you the right to 
call those who have suffered and had their lives changed forever 
such things for asking serious questions because they haven't 
been given answers? Instead of flinging the old, worn out 
labels, why don't talk show hosts invite Professor Griffin, 
family members and other professionals with the experience and 
credentials who are questioning the collapse of the towers - why 
not have them on their shows and have a grown up dialogue? 

Why don't all these high-paid GOP promoters have some of the eye 
witnesses on their programs who can give an accounting of why 
they believe Flight 93 was shot down? Professor Griffin gives a 
superior accounting of this aspect of 9/11 that can't be denied -
 except by those who can't handle the truth. I suppose my 
question is rhetorical: O'Reilly, Hannity and others wouldn't 
dare - not if they want to keep their multi-million dollar 
incomes from their books and radio/tv gigs. 

For those who send me cranky, rude and often profanity laced e-
mail calling me a traitor for writing about 9/11 - who are you 
to tell me I can't ask questions? What? The First Amendment only 
applies to those who are afraid of the truth? I darn straight 
guarantee you that if it had been Clinton in the White House on 
9/11, the "conservatives" in this country would have gone 
bonkers looking under every column at Ground Zero and 
questioning the entire sequence of events. However, because it's 
Bush, who has sold conservatives a bill of goods with his God 
routine, how dare anyone question what our great leader does or 
says! What hypocrites. 

What kind of Americans don't want the truth, no matter how 
painful? Have we become a nation of cowards? How can we be the 
home of the brave and the land of the free if our people are too 
afraid to question their government? 

Is that what it's come down to in this country: question 9/11 
and just because it's a Republican in the White House, you're 
suddenly a traitor? I would like some jackass to say that to my 
face. 

I am becoming increasing ashamed of my fellow countrymen who 
practice cosmetic patriotism, spout all kinds of warm, fuzzy 
rhetoric, but when it comes down to finding out the truth and 
nothing but the truth, even if it is critical of their favorite 
president, the messenger is now evil. I challenge all these 
media pundits and those Americans who haven't looked past Dan 
Blather to read Crossing the Rubicon and The New Pearl Harbor. 
Then come back and tell me you don't have serious questions 
about the official fairy tale sold the American people about 
September 11, 2001. 

  2004 Devvy Kidd - All Rights Reserved

From: Ohm
To: Noam the American Bone Licker
Date: Mon Nov 15 22:51:33 2004

Message:
Bwhahahaaa. George Bush won and we'll be kickin' Muslim 
cuntbones for four-more!

Paste all the fucking limp-wristed op-eds you like --- the 
muzzies are still fucked! LOOOOOL!!!!

A body burning party in Fallujah anyone? ROFLMAO!!!

Oh, and tanks for the Brit support!!! LOL!!

From: AWM
To: SAY SO
Subject: IGNORANCE
Date: Mon Jan 21 20:06:42 2002

Message:
SAY SO,YOU ARE A VERY SMART PERSON THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU,YOU 
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT,ITS ABOUT TIME WE HAD PEOPLE 
LIKE YOU ON THIS BOARD,KEEP THE GOOD WORK UP

From: AWM
To: SAY SO
Subject: IGNORANCE
Date: Mon Jan 21 20:06:42 2002

Message:
SAY SO,YOU ARE A VERY SMART PERSON THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU,YOU 
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT,ITS ABOUT TIME WE HAD PEOPLE 
LIKE YOU ON THIS BOARD,KEEP THE GOOD WORK UP

From: Noam The Non-Voting Bone
To: all the in bred obese YANKS who voted for this CUNT www.BISISACUNT.com
Subject: Recount in Ohio a Sure Thing - Green Party Campaign Raises $150,000 in 4 Days, Shifts Gears to Phase II (http://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhtt)
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
Recount in Ohio a Sure Thing - Green Party Campaign Raises 
$150,000 in 4 Days, Shifts Gears to Phase II 
(http://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comht
tp://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhtt) 
Recount in Ohio a Sure Thing 
Monday 15 November 2004 

Green Party Campaign Raises $150,000 in 4 Days, Shifts Gears to 
Phase II
WASHINGTON -- November 15 -- There will be a recount of the 
presidential vote in Ohio. 
http://www.humiliateamerica.com
On Thursday, David Cobb, the Green Party s 2004 presidential 
candidate, announced his intention to seek a recount of the vote 
in Ohio. Since the required fee for a statewide recount is 
$113,600, the only question was whether that money could be 
raised in time to meet the filing deadline. That question has 
been answered. 

 Thanks to the thousands of people who have contributed to this 
effort, we can say with certainty that there will be a recount 
in Ohio,  said Blair Bobier, Media Director for the Cobb-
LaMarche campaign. 

 The grassroots support for the recount has been astounding. The 
donations have come in fast and furiously, with the vast 
majority in the $10-$50 range, allowing us to meet our goal for 
the first phase of the recount effort in only four days,  said 
Bobier. 
http://www.humiliateamerica.com
Bobier said the campaign is still raising money for the next 
phase of the recount effort which will be recruiting, training 
and mobilizing volunteers to monitor the actual recount. 

The Ohio presidential election was marred by numerous press and 
independent reports of mis-marked and discarded ballots, 
problems with electronic voting machines and the targeted 
disenfranchisement of African American voters. A number of 
citizens  groups and voting rights organizations are holding the 
second of two hearings today in Columbus, Ohio, to take 
testimony from voters, poll watchers and election experts about 
problems with the Ohio vote. The hearing, from 6-9 p.m., will be 
held at the Courthouse, meeting room A, 373 S. High St., in 
Columbus. The Cobb-LaMarche campaign will be represented at the 
hearing by campaign manager Lynne Serpe. 

A demand for a recount in Ohio can only be filed by a 
presidential candidate who was either a certified write-in 
candidate or on the ballot in that state. Both Green Party 
candidate David Cobb and Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik 
will be demanding a recount. No other candidate has stated an 
intention to seek a recount and no other citizen or organization 
would have legal standing to do so in Ohio. The Cobb-LaMarche 
campaign is still exploring the possibility of seeking recounts 
in other states but no decision has been made yet.
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From: Noam The Secure Bone
To: all the filthy FAT yanky CUNTS who are as thick as SHIT in the neck of a BOTTLE
Subject: Dollar's Decline Is Reverberating
Date: Mon Nov 15 00:17:40 2004

Message:
Dollar's Decline Is Reverberating 
    By David Streitfeld 
    The Los Angeles Times 

    Sunday 14 November 2004 
http://www.costofwar.com
If foreign investors look elsewhere, interest rates could climb 
and living standards could fall.
    During a routine sale of U.S. Treasury bonds in early 
September, one of the essential pillars holding up the economy 
suddenly disappeared. 

    Foreigners have been regularly buying nearly half of all 
debt issued by the U.S. government. On Sept. 9, for the first 
time that anyone could remember, they stayed home. 

    "Thoughts of panic flickered out there," said Sadakichi 
Robbins, head of global fixed-income trading at Bank Julius 
Baer. 

    The foreigners returned in force at the next Treasury 
auction, and Sept. 9 was quickly dismissed as an aberration. 

    But the episode demonstrated how much the U.S. economy is 
dependent on other countries to bankroll its free-spending ways. 
That fragility is becoming even more precarious because of 
recent declines in the U.S. dollar to multiyear lows, some 
economists say. 

    Amid worries about bulging U.S. budget and trade deficits, 
the greenback dropped last week to a record low against the 5-
year-old euro, a 12-year low against the Canadian dollar and a 
nine-year low against an index of major currencies. Many 
analysts don't see anything that will stop the decline. 

    A cheaper dollar reduces the value of American securities, 
making them less attractive to foreign investors. That could 
eventually precipitate what Robbins called "the doomsday 
scenario" - Japan and China not only refusing to buy U.S. bonds, 
but selling some of their $1.3 trillion in reserves. 

    The only way Uncle Sam could then find new customers for its 
IOUs would be by raising interest rates. And although higher 
rates are good for savers, they would be disastrous for a 
country weaned on cheap credit. 

    "Sometime soon, the falling dollar is going to show up in 
rising inflation, rising interest rates and a falling standard 
of living," said Harry Chernoff, an economist with Pathfinder 
Capital Advisors. "The housing and mortgage markets, which 
benefited the most from declining interest rates over the past 
few years, are likely to feel the most pain." 

    Not everyone agrees that suffering is imminent. The National 
Assn. of Manufacturers calls the dollar doomsayers "all but 
hysterical." Manufacturers and produce growers like a cheap 
dollar because it makes their products more affordable in 
foreign markets. 

    Even some foreigners like the low dollar. China has pegged 
its currency to the dollar. A weak greenback means a weak yuan, 
making Chinese goods cheaper in foreign markets and fueling the 
nation's economic boom. 

    To most American consumers, a falling dollar is more an 
annoyance than cause for alarm. It raises the price of a cup of 
coffee to outlandish levels during a Paris vacation, and may 
cause second thoughts about buying a more expensive Volkswagen. 

    But a number of economists and academics say there are real 
reasons for concern. If the dollar falls too far too quickly, 
they say, those all-important foreign investors will abandon the 
U.S. in favor of stabler places. 

    Indeed, there are signs that such an exodus might have 
already started. 

    In August, the most recent period for which there's data, 
foreign private investors sold $2 billion more in U.S. stocks 
than they bought, the Treasury said. Meanwhile, they dumped $4 
billion more in government bonds than they purchased. 

    "A run for the exits could happen any day, that's for sure," 
said C. Fred Bergsten, author of "Dollar Overvaluation and the 
World Economy" and director of the Institute for International 
Economics, a Washington think tank. 

    Such a prospect creates a tricky balancing act for policy 
makers. As long as the dollar devalues in a slow and orderly 
way, and doesn't trigger panic selling of American securities, 
Bush administration officials appear to be comfortable with the 
fall. As they see it, the benefits of boosting the economy 
through higher exports outweigh the drawbacks. 

    The administration approach could work out fine in the short 
run, economists say. But eventually the slide must stop. Few 
countries can maintain strong economies with a debased currency. 

    Indeed, if a weak currency was the prescription for long-run 
economic health, countries like Argentina and Mexico - which 
have suffered massive currency devaluations in the last decade - 
would be financial titans. 

    Ultimately, these economists say, the solution is for the 
U.S. government to reduce its massive budget deficit. That would 
curb the need for Uncle Sam to issue so many Treasury notes. And 
the dollar would rise on its own, because the deficit is the 
main reason it continues to fall. 

    Having China decouple the yuan from the dollar also could 
help, economists say. It's a step the Bush administration has 
sought from Beijing, with little progress. 

    Under the best scenario, economist Bergsten sees China 
acceding to American pressure and easing or dropping the yuan-
dollar peg by the end of the year. 

    Allowing the yuan to float upward would raise the price of 
Chinese goods in this country and reduce the U.S. trade deficit 
with the new Asian powerhouse, estimated to be $150 billion this 
year. 

    But if the Chinese resist, the euro will rise even further. 
It could move up from last week's $1.30 to $2, Bergsten said. 
Three years ago, it was worth 84 cents. 

    That ascent would upset the Europeans, whose exports would 
suffer and whose economies are already struggling. Central 
bankers usually speak in measured tones, but European Central 
Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet was moved last week to call 
the euro's rise "brutal" and "not welcome." 

    Neither the dollar nor the deficits became a hot-button 
issue during the presidential campaign, for obvious reasons. No 
politician has ever won an election by telling people their 
standard of living is going to go down, particularly at a moment 
when it's so easy to get a loan. 

    "The insidious thing about deficits is that they go on as 
long as the markets allow them to go on," said Maurice Obstfeld, 
an economics professor at UC Berkeley and author of many works 
on global capital markets. 

    "So people get lulled into the certainty they'll always be 
able to borrow at low rates, and that this is right and normal 
and an endorsement of their behavior," he said. "But it has to 
stop at some point." 

    A slump in the dollar also has been providing immediate 
benefits for some businesses, particularly multinationals but 
also smaller firms. 

    "There's all this scare stuff about the falling dollar, but 
it's allowing us to compete in the marketplace more 
effectively," said Stephanie Harkness, chief executive of 
Pacific Plastics & Engineering in Soquel, Calif. 

    Eighteen months ago, Pacific Plastics built a plant in 
Bangalore, India. It now employs 48 people there and 86 in 
Soquel. 

    "Our customers can save 50% when we produce molds for them 
in India rather than here," Harkness said. "My ideal scenario is 
not to have a plant in California at all." 

    If Pacific Plastics' bottom line is improving, the 
government's is steadily getting worse. The gap between what it 
spent and what it took in during the fiscal year that ended 
Sept. 30 was $413 billion, a record. 

    This week, Congress will have to raise the government's $7.4-
trillion debt ceiling so it can borrow more money. According to 
the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, by 2008 nearly 10% 
of the budget will be devoted to interest payments. 

    President Bush has pledged to halve the deficit by 2008. 
Many economists say that will be difficult, if not impossible, 
without raising taxes, something Bush has pledged not to do. 

    In his post election news conference, the president said the 
economy could grow its way out of trouble. 
http://www.costofwar.com

    "As the revenue streams increase, coupled with fiscal 
discipline, you'll see the deficit shrinking," he said. 

    The stock market soared on Bush's remarks, but the currency 
markets rendered a different verdict. The dollar continued to 
fall. 

    It's not only the government that is profligate. The U.S. 
current account deficit - the broadest measure of international 
trade, including exports, imports, services and investments - 
rose in the second quarter to $166 billion, up 13% from the 
first quarter. 

    Much of the second-quarter shortfall was in goods: for every 
$20 in products American manufacturers sent overseas, U.S. 
consumers bought $36 in foreign electronics, cars and other 
items. 

    The current account deficit has risen from 1% of gross 
domestic product in 1990 to 5.4%. 

    That doesn't seem like much, and in the short term it isn't, 
said James Gipson, chairman of the $7-billion equity mutual fund 
Clipper Fund, in a letter to shareholders. But just like credit 
card debt, it compounds over the long term. 

    "A slowly and likely growing share of our output of goods 
and services will go to provide comfortable retirements for the 
residents of Tokyo, not Topeka," Gipson wrote. 

    One trouble with owners in Tokyo is that they may decide 
they want to own something in India or China instead. 

    That's why the Sept. 9 auction prompted concern. 

    Usually indirect bidders, which include foreign governments, 
are heavy buyers at Treasury auctions. This time, their 
purchases were less than 3%. Traders speculated that Japan was 
finally calling it quits. 

    What happened was never explained, but neither was it 
repeated. 
http://www.costofwar.com
    "It turned out to be a fluke," said Kim Rupert, managing 
director for global fixed-income analysis at Action Economics, a 
consulting firm. "But at first blush, it was 'Oh my gosh.' " 

  http://www.costofwar.com
  

From: Noam The Ever-Hopeful Bone
To: fucking inbred, morbidly obese, geographically challeneged, sexually repressed YANKY CUNTS!
Subject: Iraq war threatens the U.S. economy
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
Iraq war threatens the U.S. economy 
11/14/2004 9:48:00 PM GMT  
 
 http://www.costofwar.com

Seymour Hersh, the Pulitzer Prize, who first uncovered Abu 
Ghraib scandal, said that the U.S. President George W. Bush's 
persistence to carry on with Iraq war will surely result in 
plunging his country s economy into downturn as the European 
allies have started to distance themselves gradually from the 
war with boycotts of American markets. 
http://www.costofwar.com
"I just see very hard times ahead," Seymour Hersh, who first 
revealed the abuse scandal in Abu Ghraib prison scandal in The 
New Yorker magazine, said in a keynote address to not less than 
100 people attending the Military Reporters and Editors 
conference. 

Hersh won the Pulitzer in 1969 for international reporting. He 
got the world s attention for the second time last summer, when 
he uncovered Abu Ghraib scandal where Iraqi detainees were 
subjected to various forms of abuse and torture; physically and 
psychologically by U.S. soldiers. 
http://www.costofwar.com
According to Hersh, Bush's rejection of any views opposing to 
his regarding the war in Iraq, together with his persistence 
that the United States push ahead to curb resistance everywhere 
in Iraq, Hersh called "the war we started" will have its 
negative and major impact on the country s economy, which will 
be proven in forth coming periods. 

"This president believes in what he's doing. He is prepared to 
take a lot more body bags," he said. "He is going to fight this 
all the way. The bombing has gone up exponentially ... How are 
we going to end this if the president's convinced that he has to 
see this through?" 

Hersh suggests that European nations will find new ways to "gang 
up on us." Key NATO nations have long resisted involvement in 
Iraq war after the United Nations refused to pass a resolution 
imposing sanctions to stop the U.S. illegal invasion of Iraq on 
20 March 2003. Moreover, some of the U.S. war allies have 
already started to pull out their army from Iraq. 

"You're going to see American profits disappear. American 
corporations are going to be in big trouble. It's going to be a 
mantra not to buy American," Hersh said. "All our major 
manufacturers are reporting major slowdowns in Europe. You're 
going to see the dollar disappear. Economically, this country is 
going to be in trouble and he's going to continue to fight this 
war." 

Hersh suggests that Bush s administration should open talks with 
the Iraqi resistance, which he described as the only form of 
government existing in Iraq today, to end the war once and for 
all. However, he sees this not likely to happen, given Bush's 
stance. 
http://www.costofwar.com
Hence, Hersh says that journalists' jobs are much more difficult 
as the government officials won't speak openly about options, 
fearing retribution due to Bush's perspective that opposition is 
equivalent to treason. 

"There are people here in this town (Washington, D.C.) at high 
levels and lower levels in the different agencies that know how 
bad it is," he said. "Getting them to talk is going to be the 
problem. I don't think we can." 

He, moreover,  predicted that White House Chief Counsel Alberto 
Gonzales, nominated to replace John Ashcroft after he announced 
his resignation as attorney general, will face a tough 
confirmation hearing. 

He said military lawyers, who he said "went crazy" in opposition 
to Gonzales' legal opinions involving interrogation policies, 
will testify against him. Hersh says that it was those policies, 
like some believe, which led to the Abu Ghraib tragedy.

 http://www.costofwar.com
 

From: Noam The German Hero Bone
To: alive yanks who want to die
Subject: Two planeloads of U.S. soldiers brought to hospital in Germany
Date: Sat Nov 13 23:45:32 2004

Message:
Two planeloads of U.S. soldiers brought to hospital in Germany  
 http://www.robert-fisk.com By Panos Kakaviatos
ASSOCIATED PRESS
8:57 a.m. November 13, 2004
RAMSTEIN, Germany   More than 70 U.S. soldiers from Iraq were 
flown Saturday to a military hospital in Germany, most of them 
wounded in the battle for Fallujah, officials said. 
 
The 73 new patients at the U.S. military's Landstuhl Regional 
Medical Center pushed the number of arrivals this week to 412, 
nearly all injured in Fallujah, hospital spokeswoman Marie Shaw 
said. The number of beds at the hospital in rural western 
Germany has been increased to handle the wounded. 
http://www.robert-fisk.com
"This is more than we usually get," said Erin Zagursky, a 
spokeswoman at the U.S. Air Force's Ramstein base. 

U.S. and Iraqi forces launched a ground assault for Fallujah 
late Monday after the city's clerical leadership refused to hand 
over insurgents, including Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-
Zarqawi. 

Military officials could not provide an exact number of wounded 
from Fallujah or the nature of their injuries. But Zagursky said 
90 percent of Saturday's arrivals were Army soldiers and 
Marines. 

Landstuhl is the biggest U.S. military hospital overseas, and 
its doctors also treat soldiers with non-combat injuries and 
illnesses. It usually treats between 30 and 50 injured military 
personnel per day. 

A C-141 transport brought the 60 latest patients from Balad, 50 
miles north of Baghdad, to Ramstein on Saturday morning. Twenty-
five of the patients had to be carried off on stretchers. 

 http://www.robert-fisk.com

From: Noam The http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOS303A.html Bone
To: to all idiot yanks who probably can't even read these posts i.e. GHOST et al. fucking READ THIS!:
Subject: The NSS is the political articulation of what the main actors of the Bush administration published in September 2000, before the elections, before they took power, and before the fateful day of September 11, 2001. That project was called "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century ", A Report of The Project For the New American Century. These documents are essentially the blueprints for hegemony and for a word that has come back into vogue- Empire. These documents are publicly available, but not often read. All Americans and all members of the armed forces should read them. Many of the people quoted in this article have no doubt read them and understand the policies basic illegalities, and thus the conclusion that the war itself is domestically, internationally and morally indefensible.
Date: Sat Nov 13 23:43:44 2004

Message:
The NSS is the political articulation of what the main actors of 
the Bush administration published in September 2000, before the 
elections, before they took power, and before the fateful day of 
September 11, 2001. That project was called "Rebuilding 
America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New 
Century ", A Report of The Project For the New American Century. 
These documents are essentially the blueprints for hegemony and 
for a word that has come back into vogue- Empire. These 
documents are publicly available, but not often read. All 
Americans and all members of the armed forces should read them. 
Many of the people quoted in this article have no doubt read 
them and understand the policies basic illegalities, and thus 
the conclusion that the war itself is domestically, 
internationally and morally indefensible.

There are many critiques of the impact of these policies-which 
articulate the reasons not to go to war. Some of the better ones 
can be found at Global Policy ; Foreign Policy in Focus or the 
Education for Peace in Iraq Center . There are also several 
other valuable research sites.

There are also many U.S. veteran groups that have seen the 
horrors of war up close and do not want to have another 
generation of young Americans suffer not only the war, but also 
the post traumatic stresses that emerge after war, when they 
discover they have been lied to, have participated in 
aggression, and then are abandoned by their government after the 
wars. This war is particularly amenable to such, since there is 
so much dissention, based on solid information that this war is 
not only unnecessary but also illegal, and may be without a 
foreseeable end.

Charles Sheehan Miles, is a Gulf War veteran and former 
President of the National Gulf War Resource Center 
(http://www.ngwrc.org ). He also help to found the 
extraordinarily useful "Veterans for Common Sense" 
(http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/ ) which has a great deal 
of information about the current situation. On January 16, 2003, 
he wrote:

"This war does nothing to protect American lives, but it will do 
everything to destroy the lives of many thousands of Iraqis and 
Americans. This war will not protect us from weapons of mass 
destruction, but it will make it more likely Iraq will try to 
use them. This war will not liberate the Iraqi people, but it 
will do everything to ensure they receive a new master, one 
ruled by corporate profits and oil to fuel more American 
consumption. This war isn't worth the life of one American 
soldier." (http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14952 )

The idea that those who oppose the Bush plans for war are 
against the troops is a fundamental lie. Support for the troops 
is not done by sending them off to a war which is fundamentally 
unnecessary-support is keeping them home. Support for the troops 
is not done by lying to them about the purpose and goals of the 
war and allowing those who will benefit and profit a free ride 
on the backs of the troops. Support for the troops is not done 
by making them complicit in an illegal and immoral war-it is 
done by exposing the lies and giving the troops an opportunity 
not to be complicit in war crimes.

A group of veterans of many different wars and eras has issued a 
statement that has been distributed to active duty soldiers 
making some of the points made in this article. Signers includes 
many well-known veterans such as Vietnam veteran and author Ron 
Kovic (Born on the 4th of July), author and film producer 
Michael Moore (Bowling for Columbine), and American historian 
Howard Zinn (A People's History of the United States) and 
several hundred other veterans.

The statement "Call to Conscience from Veterans to Active Duty 
Troops and Reservist" reads in part:

"Many of us believed serving in the military was our duty, and 
our job was to defend this country. Our experiences in the 
military caused us to question much of what we were taught. Now 
we see our REAL duty is to encourage you as members of the U.S. 
armed forces to find out what you are being sent to fight and 
die for and what the consequences of your actions will be for 
humanity. We call upon you, the active duty and reservists, to 
follow your conscience and do the right thing.

In the last Gulf War, as troops, we were ordered to murder from 
a safe distance. We destroyed much of Iraq from the air, killing 
hundreds of thousands, including civilians. We remember the road 
to Basra -- the Highway of Death -- where we were ordered to 
kill fleeing Iraqis. We bulldozed trenches, burying people 
alive. The use of depleted uranium weapons left the battlefields 
radioactive. Massive use of pesticides, experimental drugs, 
burning chemical weapons depots and oil fires combined to create 
a toxic cocktail affecting both the Iraqi people and Gulf War 
veterans today. One in four Gulf War veterans is disabled.

If you choose to participate in the invasion of Iraq you will be 
part of an occupying army. Do you know what it is like to look 
into the eyes of a people that hate you to your core? You should 
think about what your "mission" really is. You are being sent to 
invade and occupy a people who, like you and me, are only trying 
to live their lives and raise their kids. They pose no threat to 
the United States even though they have a brutal dictator as 
their leader. Who is the U.S. to tell the Iraqi people how to 
run their country when many in the U.S. don't even believe their 
own President was legally elected?

There is no honor in murder. This war is murder by another name. 
When, in an unjust war, an errant bomb dropped kills a mother 
and her child it is not "collateral damage," it is murder. When, 
in an unjust war, a child dies of dysentery because a bomb 
damaged a sewage treatment plant, it is not "destroying enemy 
infrastructure," it is murder. When, in an unjust war, a father 
dies of a heart attack because a bomb disrupted the phone lines 
so he could not call an ambulance, it is not "neutralizing 
command and control facilities," it is murder. When, in an 
unjust war, a thousand poor farmer conscripts die in a trench 
defending a town they have lived in their whole lives, it is not 
victory, it is murder.

If the people of the world are ever to be free, there must come 
a time when being a citizen of the world takes precedence over 
being the soldier of a nation. Now is that time. When orders 
come to ship out, your response will profoundly impact the lives 
of millions of people in the Middle East and here at home. Your 
response will help set the course of our future. You will have 
choices all along the way. Your commanders want you to obey. We 
urge you to think. We urge you to make your choices based on 
your conscience. If you choose to resist, we will support you 
and stand with you because we have come to understand that our 
REAL duty is to the people of the world and to our common 
future." (To see the full statement and view all the signatures 
see www.calltoconscience.net .)

The choices that those in the military and their supporters face 
are hard ones. Let us begin with some undisputed options. 
Members of the armed forces are sworn to protect the 
Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. They are 
also sworn to obey all LAWFUL orders and have an affirmative 
duty to DISOBEY all UNLAWFUL orders.

The unelected president will not tell his troops or his 
commanders that he is issuing unlawful orders. Few, if any, of 
the top commanders will tell their troops that they are issuing 
unlawful orders. Those on the front lines, those who fly the 
planes, those who target Cruise missiles and other weapons of 
mass destruction need to make decisions. According to 
International Law, Domestic Law, the Constitution, and various 
Moral Codes it is not enough to say or believe that one is 
just "doing their job" or just "following orders." Decisions 
have to be made.

One should check out the sources of information presented in 
this article, to see if International Law still applies to 
America, to see if the Constitution still applies, to see if the 
Pope and other national and international members of the clergy 
are right in their moral objections to this war, to see if the 
legal arguments are valid against the war or for the war. One 
should investigate if they are being lied to by their unelected 
commander in chief. Members of the armed forces have a sworn and 
sacred duty to uphold the law and the Constitution. According to 
the laws, international, domestic, and moral, the interpretation 
of whether orders are legal are not only the responsibility 
of "superior officers," but is needed each level of command, and 
by those who execute those commands.

Please note that the information presented here is not meant to 
encourage one to break the law, but rather to follow 
international, domestic, and moral laws. The information here is 
not intended to encourage one to break one's oath but rather to 
be true to one's duty and conscience and make an informed 
decision.

If the decision is made that the orders to begin or continue the 
war are illegal, then each bomb dropped will be a war crime, 
each bomb loaded will be a war crime, each support effort will 
be aiding and abetting a crime. Each death, especially that of a 
civilian, will be a war crime (not collateral damage). If the 
war itself is a crime than all efforts that aid in that effort 
are criminal. Given that over 50% of the people of Iraq are 
children under the age of 16, this will be a war against 
children and a crime against humanity. The decision to obey 
one's oath and not follow illegal orders is no doubt a difficult 
one, and one that will probably result in punishment from those 
who issue the illegal orders. One should not take this issue 
lightly, just as one should not take the decision to follow an 
illegal order lightly. There will no doubt be consequences for 
those who follow their conscience. It is the duty of all who 
recognize the illegality of the war to support all resisters. 
For examples on how hundreds of thousands of GIs resisted the 
illegal war in Vietnam (by the U.S. Governments own admission in 
the Pentagon Papers) read Howard Zinn's "A People's History of 
the United States," Chapter 18. For a personal account of a 
brave officer's resistance in Vietnam and later, see "Witness to 
War" by Charles Clement.

I am aware that many active duty personnel and reservist already 
have grave doubts and reservations about the conduct of this 
war, just as do significant numbers of veterans and the general 
public and citizenry. Those who have severe doubts about the 
legality of what they are "ordered" to do should talk to their 
comrades in arms, their spiritual advisor (if they have one), 
and should contact one of the groups listed below and weigh 
their options.

There may well be some safety in numbers. Albert Einstein, the 
genius physicist, once stated that if 2% of the military refused 
to fight or participate, the wars could not continue. Time is 
short. Or if you are reading this after the hostilities have 
commenced, it is time to stop the madness and war crimes.

At the end of this article there is contact information for 
organizations that have historically assisted active duty 
personnel, reservist, or veterans of conscience who desire 
specific legal, political, or moral guidance in time of war. If 
possible, these would be good organizations to contact. As the 
veterans "Call to Conscience" statement notes "if you have 
questions or doubts about your role in the military (for any 
reason) or in this war, help is available. Contact one of the 
organizations listed below. They can discuss your situation and 
concerns, give you information on your legal rights, and help 
you sort out your possible choices." These organizations are 
listed for your information and are not responsible for the 
contents of this article.

Also listed below are sources of information that may be useful 
about the current situation, in addition to the sources listed 
in the article.


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Lawrence Mosqueda, Ph.D. teaches at The Evergreen State College 
in Olympia, Washington. He can be reached at 
mosqueda@evergreen.edu 

Copyright Lawrence Mosqueda 2003. For fair use only/ pour usage 
 quitable seulement 

From: Noam The Dissident Bone
To: all the babykilling and raping us troops in a sovereign country IRAQ
Subject: An Advisory to US Troops A Duty to Disobey All Unlawful Orders
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
An Advisory to US Troops
A Duty to Disobey All Unlawful Orders
by Lawrence Mosqueda
www.globalresearch.ca 2 March 2003 
The URL of this article is: 
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOS303A.html ------------------
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As the United States government under George Bush gets closer to 
attacking the people of Iraq, there are several things that the 
men and women of the U.S. armed forces need to know and bear in 
mind as they are given orders from the Bush administration. This 
information is provided for the use of the members of the armed 
forces, their families, friends and supporters, and all who are 
concerned about the current direction of U.S. policy toward Iraq.

The military oath taken at the time of induction reads:

"I,____________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will 
support and defend the Constitution of the United States against 
all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith 
and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of 
the President of the United States and the orders of the 
officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the 
Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God"

The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) 809.ART.90 (20), 
makes it clear that military personnel need to obey the "lawful 
command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful 
order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general 
order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military 
personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful 
orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, 
including orders by the president that do not comply with the 
UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution 
and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if 
those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the 
UCMJ.

During the Iran-Contra hearings of 1987, Senator Daniel Inouye 
of Hawaii, a decorated World War II veteran and hero, told Lt. 
Col. Oliver North that North was breaking his oath when he 
blindly followed the commands of Ronald Reagan. As Inouye 
stated, "The uniform code makes it abundantly clear that it must 
be the Lawful orders of a superior officer. In fact it 
says, 'Members of the military have an obligation to disobey 
unlawful orders.' This principle was considered so important 
that we-we, the government of the United States, proposed that 
it be internationally applied in the Nuremberg trials." (Bill 
Moyers, "The Secret Government", Seven Locks Press; also in the 
PBS 1987 documentary, "The Secret Government: The Constitution 
in Crisis")

Senator Inouye was referring to the Nuremberg trials in the post 
WW II era, when the U.S. tried Nazi war criminals and did not 
allow them to use the reason or excuse that they were 
only "following orders" as a defense for their war crimes which 
resulted in the deaths of millions of innocent men, women, and 
children. "In 1953, the Department of Defense adopted the 
principles of the Nuremberg Code as official policy" of the 
United States. (Hasting Center Report, March-April 1991)

Over the past year there have been literally thousands of 
articles written about the impact of the coming war with Iraq. 
Many are based on politics and the wisdom of engaging in an 
international war against a country that has not attacked the 
U.S. and the legality of engaging in what Bush and Rumsfield 
call "preemptive war." World opinion at the highest levels, and 
among the general population, is that a U.S. first strike on 
Iraq would be wrong, both politically and morally. There is also 
considerable evidence that Bush's plans are fundamentally 
illegal, from both an international and domestic perspective. If 
the war is indeed illegal, members of the armed forces have a 
legal and moral obligation to resist illegal orders, according 
to their oath of induction.

The evidence from an international perspective is overwhelming. 
The United States Constitution makes treaties that are signed by 
the government equivalent to the "law of the land" itself, 
Article VI, para. 2. Among the international laws and treaties 
that a U.S. pre-emptive attack on Iraq may violate are:   The 
Hague Convention on Land Warfare of 1899, which was reaffirmed 
by the U.S. at the 1946 Nuremberg International Military 
Tribunals;   Resolution on the Non-Use of Nuclear Weapons and 
Prevention of Nuclear War, adopted UN General Assembly, Dec 12, 
1980;   Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime 
of Genocide; December 9, 1948, Adopted by Resolution 260 (III) A 
of the UN General Assembly;   Geneva Convention relative to the 
Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, Adopted on August 
12, 1949 by the Diplomatic Conference for the Establishment of 
International Conventions for the Protection of Victims of War; 
  Convention on the Prohibition of Military or any Other Hostile 
Use of Environmental Modification Techniques, 1108 U.N.T.S. 151, 
Oct. 5, 1978;   The Charter of the United Nations;   The 
Nuremberg Principles, which define as a crime against 
peace, "planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of 
aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, 
agreements, or assurances, or participation in a common plan or 
conspiracy for accomplishment of any of the forgoing." (For many 
of these treaties and others, see the Yale Avalon project at 
www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/imt.htm . Also see a letter to 
Canadian soldiers sent by Hamilton Action for Social Change at 
http://www.hwcn.org/link/hasc/letter_cf.html )

As Hamilton Action for Social Change has noted "Under the 
Nuremberg Principles, you have an obligation NOT to follow the 
orders of leaders who are preparing crimes against peace and 
crimes against humanity. We are all bound by what U.S. Chief 
Prosecutor Robert K. Jackson declared in 1948: [T]he very 
essence of the [Nuremberg] Charter is that individuals have 
intentional duties which transcend the national obligations of 
obedience imposed by the individual state." At the Tokyo War 
Crimes trial, it was further declared "[A]nyone with knowledge 
of illegal activity and an opportunity to do something about it 
is a potential criminal under international law unless the 
person takes affirmative measures to prevent commission of the 
crimes."

The outcry about the coming war with Iraq is also overwhelming 
from legal experts who have studied this in great detail.

By November of 2002, 315 law professors had signed a statement 
entitled "A US War Against Iraq Will Violate US and 
International Law and Set a Dangerous Precedent for Violence 
That Will Endanger the American People ."

Other legal organizations such as the Lawyers' Committee on 
Nuclear Policy and the Western States Legal Foundation have 
written more extensive reports, such as that by Andrew 
Lichterman and John Burroughs on "War is Not the Path to Peace; 
The United States, Iraq, and the Need for Stronger International 
Legal Standards to Prevent War." As the report 
indicates "Aggressive war is one of the most serious 
transgressions of international law." In fact, at the Nuremberg 
trials, the issue was not just individual or collective acts of 
atrocities or brutal actions but the starting of an aggressive 
war itself. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert L. Jackson stated,

"We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which 
their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, 
but that they started it. And we must not allow ourselves to be 
drawn into a trial of the causes of the war, for our position is 
that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive 
war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of 
policy." (August 12, 1945, Department of State Bulletin . )

In another report written by the same authors and also by 
Michael Ratner, President of the Center for Constitutional 
Rights, New York, and Jules Lobel, Professor of Law at the 
University of Pittsburgh entitled "The United Nations Charter 
and the Use of Force Against Iraq," the authors note that:

"Under the UN Charter, there are only two circumstances in which 
the use of force is permissible: in collective or individual 
self-defense against an actual or imminent armed attack: and 
when the Security Council has directed or authorized use of 
force to maintain or restore international peace and security. 
Neither of those circumstances now exists. Absent one of them, 
U.S. use of force against Iraq is unlawful."

The authors were specifically referring to Article 51 of the UN 
Charter on the right to self-defense. Nothing that Iraq has done 
would call that provision into effect. The report also states 
that:

"There is no basis in international law for dramatically 
expanding the concept of self-defense, as advocated in the Bush 
Administration's September, 2002 "National Security Strategy" to 
authorize "preemptive"--really preventive--strikes against 
states based on potential threats arising from possession or 
development of chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons and 
links to terrorism. Such an expansion would destabilize the 
present system of UN Charter restraints on the use of force. 
Further, there is no claim or publicly disclosed evidence that 
Iraq is supplying weapons of mass destruction to terrorist.

The Bush administration's reliance on the need for "regime 
change" in Iraq as a basis for use of force is barred by Article 
2(4) of the UN Charter, which prohibits "the threat or use of 
force against the territorial integrity or political 
independence of any state." Thus the rationales being given to 
the world, the American public, and the armed forces are illegal 
on their face. (For a copy of this report see 
www.lcnp.org/global/iraqstatement3.htm )

It is important to note that none of the authors cited thus far 
or to be cited have any support for Saddam Hussein or the 
Government of Iraq whatsoever. They and others who do not 
support an illegal war in Iraq believe that government of Saddam 
Hussein is corrupt, vile, and contemptible. So is the leadership 
and governments of many of our "allies," such as Saudi Arabia 
and Pakistan-governments that the United States may very well 
attack within the next decade. It is important to remember that 
Saddam Hussein was an important "ally" during the 1980s and that 
many of the weapons that may be faced by our armed forces will 
bear a "Made in the USA" label. The issue here is not the "evil' 
of Saddam Hussein, nor the international community doing 
nothing, but an illegal march to war by the Bush administration.

Even former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, a very 
conservative Republican from Texas, has warned that 
an "unprovoked attack against Iraq would violate international 
law and undermine world support for President Bush's goal of 
ousting Saddam Hussein." Armey explicitly states "If we try to 
act against Saddam Hussein, as obnoxious as he is, without 
proper provocation, we will not have the support of other nation 
states who might do so. I don't believe that America will 
justifiably make an unprovoked attack on another nation. It 
would not be consistent with what we have been as a nation or 
what we should be as a nation." (Chicago Tribune, August 9, 
2002 , 

In addition to the violations of international laws, which have 
been incorporated into U.S. law, the impending attack on Iraq is 
a direct violation of national law as Bush claims that he has 
the authority to decide whether the U.S. will go to war or not. 
The U.S. Constitution is very explicit on this point. Only the 
Congress has the authority to declare war, Article 1, section 8, 
Par. 11. Congress does not have the right to give that power 
away, or to delegate that power to the president or anyone else. 
The President as the "Commander in Chief" (Article 2, section 2, 
Par. 1) can command the armed forces in times of peace and war, 
but he does not have the authority to declare the war or 
determine if that war is to occur, especially if he is engaged 
in illegal conduct in violation of the Constitution itself or 
his oath of office. The Constitution spells out very clearly the 
responsibility of the President and his oath, "I do solemnly 
swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of 
President of the United States, and will to the best of my 
ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the 
United States." (Article 2, section 2, Par. 8). The President 
also has the primary duty to make sure "that the laws be 
faithfully executed," (Article 2, section 3).

The vaguely worded resolution passed by the Congress in October 
was both illegal and an act of cowardice, as noted by Senator 
Robert Byrd of West Virginia. Byrd's remarks were made on the 
floor of the Senate on October 3, 2002. In part he said:

"The resolution before us today is not only a product of haste; 
it is also a product of presidential hubris. This resolution is 
breathtaking in its scope. It redefines the nature of defense, 
and reinterprets the Constitution to suit the will of the 
Executive Branch. It would give the President blanket authority 
to launch a unilateral preemptive attack on a sovereign nation 
that is perceived to be a threat to the United States. This is 
an unprecedented and unfounded interpretation of the President's 
authority under the Constitution, not to mention the fact that 
it stands the charter of the United Nations on its head."

The full texts of his remarks are well worth reading , not only 
on the illegality of the war but also the illegality of Congress 
in abandoning its duty under the Constitution.

MORAL CODES AND LAWS
The United States is a secular country with a great variety of 
religions, which are adhered to by the majority of the people. 
Political leaders who claim to speak in the name of God are 
rightfully looked upon with suspicion, whether they are foreign 
leaders or the president of the United States. This is 
especially true when the issues are those of war and peace. 
Nevertheless, the U.S. often blends the border on issues of 
Church and State, including in public oaths, such as the oath 
which is taken at the time of induction. This author will not 
claim to know the will of God, but it is valuable to examine 
what the religious leaders of the country are saying about this 
war. Virtually every major religion in the United States has 
come out against the Bush plans for war. Again this is not 
because of any support for Saddam Hussein, but rather the Bush 
plans do not meet any criteria for the concept of "just war." 
One would expect this from the religions that are respected and 
pacifist, but it also true from those who have supported past 
U.S. wars, and even have Chaplains in the service. Below is a 
sample of the analysis of U.S. religious leaders:

Catholic
We respectfully urge you to step back from the brink of war and 
help lead the world to act together to fashion an effective 
global response to Iraq's threats that conforms with traditional 
moral limits on the use of military force. US Conference of 
Catholic Bishops, Letter to President Bush, Sept. 13, 2002.

Episcopalian
The question for us now must be: what is our role in the 
community of nations? I believe we have the capacity within us 
to help lead our world into the way of justness and peace. The 
freedoms we enjoy as citizens of the United States oblige us to 
attend not only to our own welfare, but to the well-being of the 
world around us. A superpower, especially one that declares 
itself to be "under God," must exercise the role of super 
servant. Our nation has an opportunity to reflect the values and 
ideals that we espouse by focusing upon issues of poverty, 
disease and despair, not only within our own nation but 
throughout the global community of which we are a part. The 
Presiding Bishop's statement on military action against Iraq, 
September 6, 2002.

Jewish International cooperation is far, far better than 
unilateral action, and the U.S. must explore all reasonable 
means of attaining such support. Non-military action is always 
preferable to military action, and the U.S. must fully explore 
all options to resolve the situation through such means. If the 
effort to obtain international cooperation and support through 
the United Nations fails, the U.S. must work with other nations 
to obtain cooperation in any military action. Union of American 
Hebrew Congregations, Executive Committee Decision on Unilateral 
Action by the U.S. Against Iraq.

Lutheran
While we are fully aware of the potential threat posed by the 
government of Iraq and its leader, I believe it is wrong for the 
United States to seek to over-throw the regime of Saddam Hussein 
with military action. Morally, I oppose it because I know a war 
with Iraq will have great consequences for the people of Iraq, 
who have already suffered through years of war and economic 
sanctions. Further, I believe it is detrimental to U.S. 
interests to take unilateral military action when there is 
strong international support for weapons inspections, and when 
most other governments oppose military action. I also believe 
that U.S. military action at this time will further destabilize 
the region. I call upon members of our congregations to be 
fervent in prayer, engaged in conversation with one another and 
with our leaders. In the final analysis, we must stand 
unequivocally for peace. ELCA Presiding Bishop Mark S. Hanson's 
Statement on Iraq Situation, August 30, 2002.

Methodist United Methodists have a particular duty to speak out 
against an unprovoked attack. President Bush and Vice-President 
Cheney are members of our denomination. Our silence now could be 
interpreted as tacit approval of war. Christ came to break old 
cycles of revenge and violence. Too often, we have said we 
worship and follow Jesus but have failed to change our ways. 
Jesus proved on the cross the failure of state-sponsored 
revenge. It is inconceivable that Jesus Christ, our Lord and 
Savior and the Prince of Peace, would support this proposed 
attack. Secretary Jim Winkler of The United Methodist Church 
General Board of Church and Society, August 30, 2002.

Presbyterian
We urge Presbyterians to oppose a precipitate U.S. attack on 
Iraq and the Bush administration's new doctrine of pre-emptive 
military action. We call upon President George W. Bush and other 
leaders to: Refrain from language that seems to label certain 
individuals and nations as "evil" and others as "good"; Oppose 
ethnic and religious stereotyping, Guard against a 
unilateralism, rooted in our unique position of political, 
economic and military power, that perpetuates the perception 
that "might makes right"; Allow United Nations weapons 
inspections in Iraq, without undue pressure or threats of pre-
emptive, unilateral action; and End the economic sanctions 
against Iraq, which have been ineffectual but have done untold 
damage to the Iraqi people. The General Assembly Council and the 
staff leadership team of the Presbyterian Church (USA), 
September 28, 2002.

United Church of Christ With heavy hearts we hear once again the 
drumbeat of war against Iraq. As leaders committed to God's 
reign of justice and peace in the world and to the just conduct 
of our nation, we firmly oppose this advance to war. While 
Iraq's weapons potential is uncertain, the death that would be 
inflicted on all sides in a war is certain. Striking against 
Iraq now will not serve to prevent terrorism or defend our 
nation's interests. We fear that war would only provoke greater 
regional instability and lead to the mass destruction it is 
intended to prevent. UCC leaders, September 13, 2002.

Ecumenical As Christians, we are concerned by the likely human 
costs of war with Iraq, particularly for civilians. We are 
unconvinced that the gain for humanity would be proportionate to 
the loss. Neither are we convinced that it has been publicly 
demonstrated that all reasonable alternative means of containing 
Iraq's development of weapons of mass destruction have been 
exhausted. We call upon our governments to pursue these 
diplomatic means in active cooperation with the United Nations 
and to stop the apparent rush to war. World Council of Churches, 
August 30, 2002.

For a fuller elaboration of these and other comments from 
religious leaders, such as by the Mennonites, Quakers (Society 
of Friends), Unitarian Universalist, and other ecumenical groups 
see www.ecapc.org. Other religious and moral objections to 
Bush's plans have been articulated. In September of 2002, 100 
Christian Ethicists from major seminaries, divinity schools, and 
traditionally conservative religious schools challenged the 
claim that preemptive war on Iraq would be morally justified in 
a simply worded statement, "As Christian ethicists, we share a 
common moral presumption against a pre-emptive war on Iraq by 
the United States." (See the Chronicle of Higher Education, 
September 23, 2002 ,)

Religious resistance to Bush's war plans can also be found in 
the overwhelming vote of 228-14 by the U.S. Catholic Bishops 
against the war and in the unprecedented show of unity by 
Chicago's top Christian, Jewish, and Muslim leaders in the first 
public statement on any national issue of the Council of 
Religious Leaders of Metropolitan Chicago in opposing Bush's 
war. (Seattle Post-Intelligencer, December 1, 2002)

It is noteworthy that the Pope John Paul II has come out very 
strongly against this war in unambiguous terms, "No to war!" The 
Pope said during his annual address to scores of diplomatic 
emissaries to the Vatican, an exhortation that referred in part 
to Iraq, a country he mentioned twice. "War is not always 
inevitable. It is always a defeat for humanity." (NY Times, 
January 14, 2003). The Pope, a seasoned diplomat, was not just 
making a moral statement about peace; he referred to the legal 
codes discussed earlier in this article, "War is never just 
another means that one can choose to employ for settling 
differences between nations. As the Charter of the United 
Nations organization and international law itself reminds us, 
war cannot be decided upon, even when it is a matter of ensuring 
the common good, except as the very last option and in 
accordance with very strict conditions, without ignoring the 
consequences for the civilian population both during and after 
the military operations." (See Irish Examiner, 1/13/2003)

It is also important to restate that the head of Bush's own 
church has come out against this war. Jim Winkler, the general 
secretary of the Board of Church and Society for the United 
Methodist Church has come out very strongly against this war. 
President Bush has refused to meet with Winkler.

"The Methodist Church, he (Winkler) says, is not pacifist, 
but 'rejects war as a usual means of national policy'. Methodist 
scriptural doctrine, he added, specifies 'war as a last resort, 
primarily a defensive thing. And so far as I know, Saddam 
Hussein has not mobilized military forces along the borders of 
the United States, nor along his own border to invade a 
neighboring country, nor have any of these countries pleaded for 
our assistance, nor does he have weapons of mass destruction 
targeted at the United States'." (See Observer/UK, October 20, 
2002 )

Individual will have to make their own decisions about 
the "morality" of the war but the consensus decision that has 
been developing among religious leaders is that this war does 
not constitute a "just war" by virtually anyone's standards. The 
concept of "sin" is also a personal decision but again those who 
study these issues from the Pope to theologians to pastors to 
other religious leaders do not and cannot give their approval to 
the illegal actions that the Bush administration are going to 
impose on the world in general, and people of Iraq and the men 
and women of the U.S. armed forces in particular.

REASONS FOR THE WAR AND POSSIBLE ACTIONS
The reasons for war are not supposed to be the purview of 
soldiers in the field. They are just supposed to follow orders. 
But when a war is so blatantly illegal soldiers need to have 
some background to make an informed decision about how to 
conduct themselves. In a short space it is not possible to 
delineate the full reasons, but it is not about the dangers of 
Saddam Hussein. As indicated above, there are no credible anti-
war or peace advocates that advocate any positive statements 
about Saddam Hussein or the Government of Iraq. The world, 
however, in general, does not believe that the Bush 
administration has any solution to the situation. In fact many 
believe that Bush, himself, is a significant part of the problem.

Many people have pointed out that this war is about the oil. It 
is, but it is much more than that. The United States does not 
need the oil to survive but the people in the Bush 
administration want to expand the hegemony that the United 
States government has had since the collapse of the Soviet 
Union. This is not a critique of U.S. foreign policy, per se, 
but a recognition of reality. This is essentially what Bush has 
been saying in his public speeches at West Point, etc., and is 
very explicitly saying in his "National Security Strategy 
(NSS) , which he published in September of 2002.

.

From: ghost
To: Noam
Date: Sat Nov 13 01:58:25 2004

Message:
Like I'm supposed to trust an economist? ROFL!!! Your snivelling 
makes me PROUD to have voted for Bush. John Fucking Kerry can 
burn in hell for all I care. And you can join him.     

From: Noam The Recessional Bone
To: all you fat, morbidly OBESE, geographically CHALLENGED, sexually REPRESSED yanky SCUM out there:
Subject: The world economy faces a significantly raised risk of a global recession in 2005 if oil prices are sustained at their current level, says a leading economist. - LET'S HOPE SO!!!!;) "Bush has been accused of having a reckless fiscal policy" AINT THAT THE TRUTH!!! (http://www.thenausea.comhttp://www.thenausea.comhttp://www.thenausea.com)
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
The world economy faces a significantly raised risk of a global 
recession in 2005 if oil prices are sustained at their current 
level, says a leading economist. - LET'S HOPE SO!!!!;) "Bush has 
been accused of having a reckless fiscal policy" AINT THAT THE 
TRUTH!!! 
(http://www.thenausea.comhttp://www.thenausea.comhttp://www.thena
usea.com) 
The world economy faces a significantly raised risk of a global 
recession in 2005 if oil prices are sustained at their current 
level, says a leading economist.


Talking to reporters in Beijing on Monday, Stephen Roach, chief 
economist of investment group Morgan Stanley believes that what 
the world is experiencing constitutes a "full-blown oil shock".

"In real terms, a $50 barrel of oil is about 65% above the level 
that prevails of the level of the four preceding years, and a 
65% increase in oil when the consumer price index is only going 
up about 2% does qualify as a full-blown oil shock in my 
opinion," he said.

Predicting economic growth for the first quarter of next year, 
Roach said the developed economies of the US, Europe and Japan 
will grow at 1.5% because of high oil prices.

"Right in the danger zone of a world already tipping into 
recession, so if anything else were to happen, either on the oil 
front or any other front there is a good chance of recession 
next year."

US deficit

Coming on the heels of the recent US election and the news that 
the American budget deficit is now at a record high of $412.55 
billion, Roach says that the dollar needs to continue its 
downwards spiral, losing as much as another 10% to 15% in the 
coming months.

"I hope the Bush administration will recognise the need for 
adjustment. It is an important part of current capital 
readjustment in the US."


Bush has been accused of having 
a reckless fiscal policy


Describing George Bush's fiscal policy as reckless, he also 
issued warnings for Asian countries to be ready to adjust their 
own currencies should the dollar fall. 

This comment had particular resonance for China whose Renminbi 
currency, which is fixed to the dollar at a rate that has 
largely remained unchanged, has come under fire in the past from 
US politicians who say it is undervalued. This, say its critics, 
gives Chinese exports to the US an unfair advantage.

"I agree that in the next few years both Chinese and Asian 
currencies will need to appreciate against the dollar," says 
Zhang Bin, a currency specialist with the Chinese Academy of 
Social Sciences. "I would advise the Chinese government to do 
this even though it will in the short term have a detrimental 
effect on the economy."
http://www.thenausea.com
Adjusting their currencies in line with dollar depreciation, 
says Roach, would suggest fiscal maturity, as well as stave off 
potential protectionist measures that could emanate from US 
leaders looking for a foreign scapegoat to blame for domestic 
economic malaisehttp://www.thenausea.com 
 

From: nigerian scammer hater
To: all who it may concern
Subject: nigerian scammers
Date: Wed Nov 10 20:02:48 2004

Message:
So, I have a question, is it legal to allow a company say like 
sprint or nordia to process ip relay calls that are known to be 
from nigeria where the person calls several business in the U.S. 
with a stolen credit card nbr and try to buy merchandise , 
having it shipped to nigeria , in large quantities, and by the 
time the merchandise arrives and the card is found to be stolen 
it is to late to track? I have heard of several of these calls 
and have received some at my place of work. I belive this should 
not be allowed to happen. Why are these companies like sprint, 
nordia, and mci allowed to relay these calls and rip off the 
american public. Should there not be a stop put to this ? 
                  Sincerely ,
                         Confused.

From: Noam The Barb Bone
To: you know ;)
Subject: This section contains statements and speeches by Ms. Streisand.
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
This section contains statements and speeches by Ms. Streisand. 

We Must Have Patience ...Barbra Streisand  
Posted on November 8, 2004 
In response to the results of the Presidential election last 
week, I would like to share with you a quote from Thomas 
Jefferson. Although written in 1798, I feel his words speak 
perfectly to the strong sentiments of frustration and 
disappointment 48% of the country feel. 

"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass 
over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their 
true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It 
is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, 
and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of 
enormous public debt......If the game runs sometimes against us 
at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall 
have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, 
for this is a game where principles are at stake." 


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IS THIS THE MAN YOU THINK WILL KEEP YOU SAFE? ...Barbra 
Streisand  
Posted on October 26, 2004 
IS THIS THE MAN YOU THINK WILL KEEP YOU SAFE?... 

1. BUSH IGNORED THE ADVICE OF THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION 
REGARDING THE URGENT THREAT OF AL QAEDA. 

2. BUSH IGNORED THE HART-RUDMAN COMMISSION TERRORISM REPORT, 
WHICH OUTLINED A RANGE OF U.S. SECURITY REQUIREMENTS AND 
STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES. 

3. BUSH FAILED TO GET OVER 100,000 HOURS OF VALUABLE TERRORISM-
RELATED TAPINGS TRANSLATED BY LINGUISTS AT THE F.B.I, A FULL 3 
YEARS AFTER 9/11. IN FACT, JOHN ASHCROFT REFUSED TO ENDORSE FBI 
REQUESTS FOR $58 MILLION FOR NEW COUNTERTERRORISM FIELD AGENTS, 
TRANSLATORS AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYSTS. 

4. BUSH HELD NO FACE TO FACE MEETINGS WITH HIS TERRORISM CHIEF 
RICHARD CLARK AND NEITHER DID DICK CHENEY WHO WAS HEAD OF THE 
TERRORISM TASK FORCE. 

5. BUSH CONTINUED HIS VACATION ON THE DAY HE RECEIVED A BRIEFING 
ABOUT THE IMPENDING ATTACK ON AMERICA. 

6. KNOWING ABOUT THE IMPENDING HIJACKINGS, BUSH DID NOTHING TO 
BEEF UP AIRLINE SECURITY. 

7. BUSH'S ATTORNEY GENERAL, JOHN ASHCROFT, TOLD THE ACTING 
DIRECTOR OF THE F.B.I. TO NOT TELL HIM ANYTHING MORE ABOUT 
TERRORISM. 

8. BUSH WAS INACTIVE AND INDECISIVE FOR A FULL 7 MINUTES THE 
MORNING OF 9/11 WHEN INFORMED OF THE ATTACK ON THE WORLD TRADE 
CENTER. IF BUSH HAD ACTED QUICKLY AND INTELLIGENTLY, PERHAPS HE 
COULD HAVE GIVEN AN ORDER TO SHOOT DOWN THE PLANE HEADED TOWARD 
THE PENTAGON AND SAVED THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO WERE KILLED. 

9. BUSH INVADED IRAQ WITH THE RATIONALE OF IMAGINARY WEAPONS OF 
MASS DESTRUCTION AND IGNORED THE REAL THREAT IN AFGHANNISTAN. 
NOW WE HAVE A TERRORIST BREEDING GROUND IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND 
OSAMA BIN LADEN AND ABU MUSSAB AL-ZARQAWI, A RADICAL ISLAMIC 
TERRORIST, RUNNING FREE. 

10. BUSH IGNORED THE ADVICE OF THE GENERALS IN THE MILITARY WHO 
PROVED TO BE RIGHT. 

11. BUSH OPPOSED THE CREATION OF A DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND 
SECURITY. 

12. BUSH OPPOSED THE CREATION OF THE 9/11 COMMISSION. 

13. MORE THAN 3 YEARS LATER, OUR BORDERS, PORTS, AND NUCLEAR 
POWER PLANTS ARE STILL NOT SECURE. 

14. BUSH SUPPRESSED THE RELEASE OF A CIA REPORT THAT LAYS BLAME 
UPON HIGH-LEVEL PEOPLE IN HIS ADMINISTRATION FOR NOT DOING THEIR 
JOBS IN A SATISFACTORY MANNER BEFORE 9/11. 

15. BUSH FAILED TO SECURE NEARLY 400 TONS OF KNOWN, DEADLY 
EXPLOSIVES IN IRAQ, AND NOW THEY MAY FALL INTO THE WRONG HANDS 
TO BE USED TO BLOW UP AIRPLANES, LEVEL BUILDINGS AND DETONATE 
NUCLEAR WEAPONS. 

IF BUSH HAD DONE ANY OF THESE THINGS, WE WOULD BE A SAFER MORE 
SECURE COUNTRY TODAY AND POSSIBLY COULD HAVE PREVENTED THE 
TRAGEDY OF 9/11. 

IS THIS THE MAN YOU THINK WILL KEEP YOU SAFE?... 


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The Republican Strategy ...Barbra Streisand  
Posted on October 25, 2004 
I am posting a link to this video to show what Democrats are up 
against in this election campaign. The Republican strategy to 
spread fear and darkness as a means to scare the public into 
voting for them is exemplified in this short video. 

http://home.earthlink.net/~houval/gopconstrm.mov 


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NY Times excerpts ...Barbra Streisand  
Posted on October 25, 2004 
I thought the following excerpts, from an article by NY Times 
writer Maureen Dowd (October 24, 2004), were extremely relevant. 

"Mr. Bush and Dick Cheney were the guys who were in charge when 
the C.I.A. warnings came true and Bin Laden struck in the U.S.; 
given that they let Osama and his top deputies slip away at Tora 
Bora; given that they had a war in Iraq over imaginary weapons; 
and given that they still don't even admit that their 
belligerence and bullying have spawned a large insurgency 
movement in Iraq and caused a recruitment swell for Islamic 
terrorism." 

"The vice president is right that Mr. Kerry can't compete in the 
arena of power hunting. When Mr. Kerry goes, only the birds are 
in danger. When Mr. Cheney and his pal Antonin Scalia go duck 
hunting together, the Constitution is in danger." 


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The Principal Architects of War ...Barbra Streisand  
Posted on October 25, 2004 
I find it appalling that the Bush Administration, most of whose 
members have never served in the military, have questioned the 
patriotism of Democrats that oppose the President's handling of 
the war in Iraq. Many of these Democratic leaders have clearly 
shown their bravery and loyalty in combat through their own 
military service. The architects of the Iraq war and the 
Republicans who stand by the Bush administration with unwavering 
support for its policies of pre-emptive war have painstakingly 
tried to deflect attention away from their own lack of military 
service. The policy of pre-emptive war first became part of the 
debate in a report called The Project for a New American 
Century, published in 2000 (written in 1999) and supported by 
many currently serving in the Bush Administration. The document 
promotes the ideology of total U.S. World domination through 
force. The Defense Policy Board, composed of an influential 
group of advisors to the Pentagon, review and assess the 
country's strategic defense policies. Under the leadership of 
Richard Perle, who never served in the military, the Defense 
Policy Board has been transformed from a nonpartisan advisory 
body into a megaphone for the rigid policy preferences of the 
secretary of defense, Donald Rumsfeld. The people that are 
making decisions to go to war, have never been there themselves! 
I'll let you decide, based on the litany of hard facts below, 
who you feel is more experienced and credible to make decisions 
on what circumstances warrant putting our young men and women 
into battle...those who have experienced war firsthand or those 
who just have seen it on TV. 

Principal Architects of War on Iraq in the Bush Administration: 

Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by 
marriage. 
Richard Perle: did not serve. 
Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve. 
Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as aviator and flight 
instructor. 
Douglas Feith: did not serve. 
John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach 
business. 
Karl Rove: did not serve. 
Other Important Republicans: 

Dennis Hastert: did not serve. 
Tom Delay: did not serve. 
House Whip Roy Blunt: did not serve. 
Bill Frist: did not serve. 
Rudy Giuliani: did not serve. 
George Pataki: did not serve. 
Mitch McConnell: did not serve. 
Rick Santorum: did not serve. 
Trent Lott: did not serve. 
Jeb Bush: did not serve. 
Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked 
Max Cleland's patriotism. 
Vin Weber: did not serve. 
Eliot Abrams: did not serve. 
Richard Shelby: did not serve. 
Jon Kyl: did not serve. 
Tim Hutchison: did not serve. 
Christopher Cox: did not serve. 
Newt Gingrich: did not serve. 
Antonin Scalia: did not serve. 
Clarence Thomas: did not serve 
Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role 
making movies. 
Gerald Ford: Navy, WWII 
Phil Gramm: did not serve 
John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple 
Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. 
Bob Dole: an honorable veteran. 
Chuck Hagel: two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam. 
Duke Cunningham: nominated for Medal of Honor, Navy Cross, 
Silver Stars, Air Medals, Purple Hearts. 
Jeff Sessions: Army Reserves, 1973-1986 
JC Watts: did not serve. 
Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer. 
G.H.W. Bush: Pilot in WWII. Shot down by the Japanese. 
Tom Ridge: Bronze Star for Valor in Vietnam. 
The Democratic Record: 

Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71. 
David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72. 
Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72. 
Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an 
army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade. 
Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam. 
Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-'47; Medal of Honor, WWII. 
John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with 
Combat V Purple Hearts. 
John Edwards: did not serve. 
Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea. 
Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, 
Vietnam. 
Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-1953. 
Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74. 
Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-
91. 
Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII, receiving the Bronze Star 
and seven campaign ribbons. 
Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze 
Stars, and Soldier's Medal. 
Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star 
and Legion of Merit. 
Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart. 
Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; 
Bronze Star with Combat V. 
Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star. 
Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57 
Chuck Robb: Vietnam 
Howell Heflin: Silver Star 
George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII. 
Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft 
but received 311. 
Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy. 
Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953 
John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 
Clusters. 
Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by 
Raoul Wallenberg. 
Wesley Clark: U.S. Army, 1966-2000, West Point, Vietnam, Purple 
Heart, Silver Star. Retired 4-star general. 
John Dingell: WWII vet 
John Conyers: Army 1950-57, Korea 
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Newsweek recommendations ...Barbra Streisand  
Posted on October 21, 2004 
I wanted to alert all of those who visit my site to either pick 
up the October 25th edition of Newsweek or read the magazine 
online at www.newsweek.com. There are 2 wonderful articles in 
particular that I encourage you to read: one that highlights 
John Kerry's work in the Senate ("Kerry by the Book") and 
another that illustrates the clear cut differences between 
George W. Bush and John Kerry on the issues ("To the Bitter 
End"). I hope this will give voters who may still be on the 
fence some food for thought. 


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Fooling the People ...Barbra Streisand  
Posted on October 8, 2004 
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are 
the ones you want to concentrate on."

--- George W. Bush 

Playing on the Abraham Lincoln adage, George W. Bush was quoted 
making this statement. The Bush Administration, from the outset, 
has used the approach of disseminating lies, lies of omission 
and half truths, cover-ups and smoke screens to pull the wool 
over the eyes of the American people. And the media has allowed 
them to do so. From misleading this country into war, to flip 
flopping on the issues and now most recently having the Vice 
President go on record insisting that the Iraqi war was 
justified regardless of a new report by Charles Duelfer. The 
chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq stated Hussein's government 
produced no weapons of mass destruction after 1991 and did not 
have the capability to do so. How many more reports do we need? 
Are Bush and Cheney out of touch with reality? Does Cheney 
really believe that Iraq just having the knowledge to produce 
WMD's is justification to wage a war, lose and injure thousands 
of young American soldiers, take innocent Iraqi lives, isolate 
the U.S. from the international community, and inflame the 
Muslim world? Or are he and the President terribly afraid to 
admit to the disastrous lapses in judgment that they have 
displayed over the last 4 years? Either answer means that Bush 
was deeply dishonest or he so badly misjudged the threat of Iraq 
that he's not up to the job of President. 

Finally, after 4 years the truth is coming out about this war 
and the lies and deceit perpetuated by this administration. 
There is just too much hypocrisy for the media to ignore. Cheney 
repeatedly criticized Senator Edwards during Tuesday night's 
debate for his attendance record in Congress, yet the President 
was on vacation over 40% of the time in his first 9 months in 
office! Condoleezza Rice and Donald Rumsfeld have yet to be 
fired for the colossal errors they have made. And House Majority 
Leader Tom Delay, who has been cited for multiple ethical 
improprieties, and faulted by the Ethics Panel twice now, has 
not been unseated. It seems you only get fired by this 
Administration for telling the truth and doing your job! But the 
American people are slowly starting to distinguish spin from 
truth. They are realizing that Lincoln's quote is coming 
true: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all 
of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the 
people all of the time." 

From: Noam The Neo-Con-Hating Bone
To: fucking idiot right-wing christian paedophile fucks!
Subject: Neo-Con Agenda: Iran, China, Russia, Latin America ...
Date: Mon Nov 8 00:29:06 2004

Message:
Neo-Con Agenda: Iran, China, Russia, Latin America ... 
    By Jim Lobe 
    Inter-Press Service 

    Friday 05 November 2004 
http://www.thenausea.com
    Washington - An influential foreign-policy neo-conservative 
with longstanding ties to top hawks in the administration of 
President George W Bush has laid out what he calls "a checklist 
of the work the world will demand of this president and his 
subordinates in a second term." 

    The list, which begins with the destruction of Fallujah in 
Iraq and ends with the development of "appropriate strategies" 
for dealing with threats posed by China, Russia and "the 
emergence of a number of aggressively anti-American regimes in 
Latin America," also calls for "regime change" in Iran and North 
Korea. 
http://www.thenausea.com
    The list's author, Frank Gaffney, the founder and president 
of the Center for Security Policy (CSP), also warns that Bush 
should resist any pressure arising from the anticipated demise 
of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat to resume peace talks that 
could result in Israel's giving up "defensible boundaries." 

    While all seven steps listed by Gaffney in an article 
published Friday morning in the 'National Review Online' have 
long been favored by prominent neo-cons, the article 
itself, 'Worldwide Value', is the first comprehensive 
compilation to emerge since Bush's re-election Tuesday. 

    It is also sure to be contested, not just by Democrats who, 
with the election behind them, are poised to take a more anti-
war position on Iraq, but by many conservative Republicans in 
Congress. They blame the neo-cons for failing to anticipate the 
quagmire in Iraq and worry their grander ambitions, like those 
expounded by Gaffney, will bankrupt the Treasury and break an 
already-overextended military. http://www.thenausea.com

    Yet its importance as a road map of where neo-conservatives -
 who, with the critical help of Vice President Dick Cheney and 
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, dominated Bush's foreign 
policy after the Sep. 11, 2001 attacks on New York and the 
Pentagon - want U.S. policy to go, was underlined by Gaffney's 
listing of the names of his friends in the administration who he 
said, "helped the president imprint moral values on American 
security policy in a way and to an extent not seen since Ronald 
Reagan's first term." 

    In addition to Cheney and Rumsfeld, he cited the most 
clearly identified - and controversial - neo-conservatives 
serving in the administration: Cheney's chief of staff, I 
Lewis "Scooter" Libby; his top Middle East advisors, John Hannah 
and David Wurmser; weapons proliferation specialist Robert 
Joseph and top Mideast aide Elliott Abrams, on the National 
Security Council (NSC). 

    Also on the roster are: Deputy Defense Secretary Paul 
Wolfowitz; Undersecretary for Policy Douglas Feith; Feith's top 
Mideast aide William Luti, in the Pentagon; Undersecretary for 
Arms Control and International Security John Bolton, and for 
global issues, Paula Dobriansky at the State Department. 

    Virtually all of the same individuals have been cited by 
critics of the Iraq War, including Democratic lawmakers and 
retired senior foreign service and military officials, as 
responsible for hijacking the policy and intelligence process 
that led to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in March 2003. 

    Indeed, in a lengthy interview about the war on the most-
watched public-affairs TV program, '60 Minutes', last May, the 
former head of the U.S. Central Command and Secretary of State 
Colin Powell's chief Middle East envoy until 2003, retired Gen 
Anthony Zinni, called for the resignation of Libby, Abrams, 
Wolfowitz and Feith, as well as Rumsfeld, for their roles in the 
attack. 

    Zinni also cited former Defence Policy Board (DPB) chairman, 
Richard Perle, who has been close to Gaffney since both of them 
served, along with Abrams, in the office of Washington State 
Senator Henry M Jackson in the early 1970s. 

    When Perle became an assistant secretary of defense under 
Reagan he brought Gaffney along as his deputy. When Perle left 
in 1987, Gaffney succeeded him before setting up CSP in 1989. 

    As Perle's long-time prot g  and associate, Gaffney sits at 
the center of a network of interlocking think tanks, 
foundations, lobby groups, arms manufacturers and individuals 
that constitute the coalition of neo-conservatives, aggressive 
nationalists like Cheney and Rumsfeld and Christian Right 
activists responsible for the unilateralist trajectory of U.S. 
foreign policy since 9/11. 

    Included among CSP's board of advisers over the years have 
been Rumsfeld, Perle, Feith, Christian moralist William Bennett, 
Abrams, Feith, Joseph, former United Nations Ambassador Jeane 
Kirkpatrick, former Navy Undersecretary John Lehman and former 
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director James Woolsey. 

    Woolsey also co-chairs the new Committee on the Present 
Danger (CPD), another prominent neo-con-led lobby group that 
argues Washington is now engaged in "World War IV" 
against "Islamo-fascism." 

    Also serving on its advisory council are executives from 
some of the country's largest military contractors, which - 
along with wealthy individuals sympathetic to Israel's governing 
Likud Party, such as prominent New York investor Lawrence Kadish 
and California casino king Irving Moskowitz, and right-wing 
bodies, such as the Bradley, Sarah Scaife and Olin Foundations - 
finance CSP's work. 
http://www.thenausea.com
    Gaffney, a ubiquitous "talking head" on TV in the run-up to 
the war in Iraq, sits on the boards of CPD's parent 
organizations, the Foundation for the Defence of Democracies 
(FDD) and Americans for Victory Over Terrorism (AVOT). He was a 
charter associate, with Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz and 
Abrams, of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), 
another prominent neo-conservative-led group that offered up a 
similar checklist of what Bush should do in the "war on 
terrorism" just nine days after the 9/11 attacks. 

    His article opens by trying to pre-empt an argument that is 
already being heard on the right against expanding Bush's "war 
on terrorism": that since a plurality of Bush voters 
identified "moral values" as their chief concern, the president 
should stick to his social conservative agenda rather than 
expand the war. 

    "The reality is that the same moral principles that 
underpinned the Bush appeal on 'values' issues like gay 
marriage, stem-cell research and the right to life were central 
to his vision of U.S. war aims and foreign policy," according to 
Gaffney. 

    "Indeed, the president laid claim squarely to the ultimate 
moral value - freedom - as the cornerstone of his strategy for 
defeating our Islamofascist enemies and their state sponsors, 
for whom that concept is utterly (sic) anathema." 

    To be true to that commitment, policy in the second 
administration must be directed toward seven priorities, 
according to Gaffney, beginning with the "reduction in detail of 
Fallujah and other safe havens utilized by freedom's enemies in 
Iraq"; followed by "regime change - one way or another - in Iran 
and North Korea, the only hope for preventing these 
remaining 'Axis of Evil' states from fully realizing their 
terrorist and nuclear ambitions." 

    Third, the administration must provide "the substantially 
increased resources needed to re-equip a transforming military 
and rebuild human-intelligence capabilities (minus, if at all 
possible, the sorts of intelligence 'reforms' contemplated pre-
election that would make matters worse on this and other scores) 
while we fight World War IV, followed by enhancing "protection 
of our homeland, including deploying effective missile defenses 
at sea and in space, as well as ashore." 

    Fifth, Washington must keep "faith with Israel, whose 
destruction remains a priority for the same people who want to 
destroy us (and ... for our shared 'moral values) especially in 
the face of Yasser Arafat's demise and the inevitable, post-
election pressure to 'solve' the Middle East problem by forcing 
the Israelis to abandon defensible boundaries." 

    Sixth, the administration must deal with France and Germany 
and the dynamic that made them "so problematic in the first 
term: namely, their willingness to make common cause with our 
enemies for profit and their desire to employ a united Europe 
and its new constitution - as well as other international 
institutions and mechanisms - to thwart the expansion and 
application of American power where deemed necessary by 
Washington." 

    Finally, writes Gaffney, Bush must adapt "appropriate 
strategies for contending with China's increasingly fascistic 
trade and military policies, (Russian President) Vladimir 
Putin's accelerating authoritarianism at home and aggressiveness 
toward the former Soviet republics, the worldwide spread of 
Islamofascism, and the emergence of a number of aggressively 
anti-American regimes in Latin America", which he does not 
identify. 

    "These items do not represent some sort of neo-
con 'imperialist' game plan", Gaffney stressed. "Rather, they 
constitute a checklist of the work the world will demand of this 
president and his subordinates in a second term." 
http://www.thenausea.com
http://www.thenausea.com
http://www.thenausea.com

From: .50 Caliber Bob
To: To the citizens of the United States of America,
Subject: A letter from the United Kingdom Home Office.....to the people of the United States of America..
Date: Mon Nov 8 00:18:42 2004

Message:
To the citizens of the United States of America, 
In the light of your failure to elect a suitable President of 
the USA and 
thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the 
revocation of your 
independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen 
Elizabeth II will 
resume monarchial duties over all states, commonwealths and 
other 
territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new 
prime minister 
(The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who 
have until 
now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) 
will appoint a 
minister for America without the need for further elections. 
Congress and 
the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated 
next year 
to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the 
transition to a 
British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced 
with immediate 
effect: 
1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English 
Dictionary. Then 
look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be 
amazed at 
just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' 
will be 
reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping 
the letter 
'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you 
will learn to 
spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end 
your love 
affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the 
suffix "ize" 
will be replaced by the suffix "ise". You will learn that the 
suffix 'burgh 
is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell 
Pittsburgh 
as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. 
Generally, you 
should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look 
up "vocabulary". 
Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler 
noises such as 
"like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of 
communication. Look up "interspersed". There will be no 
more 'bleeps' in the 
Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad 
language then 
you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your 
vocabulary 
then you won't have to use bad language as often. 
2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft 
know on 
your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to 
take account of 
the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize". 
3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian 
accents. It 
really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to 
Cockney, 
upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also 
have to 
learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such 
as "Taggart" 
will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking 
about 
regions, you must learn that there is no such place as 
Devonshire in 
England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in 
calling it 
Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. 
Texasshire, 
Floridashire, Louisianashire. 
4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English 
actors as the 
good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to 
play English 
characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" 
or "Red Dwarf" 
will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American 
audience who 
can't cope with the humour of occasional political 
incorrectness. 
5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save 
The Queen", 
but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you 
to get 
confused and give up half way through. 
6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only 
one kind of 
football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very 
good game. 
The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside 
your borders 
may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You 
will no 
longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper 
football. 
Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is 
a difficult 
game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to 
play rugby 
(which is similar to American "football", but does not involve 
stopping for 
a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour 
like 
nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby 
sevens side by 
2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to 
host an 
event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played 
outside of 
America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world 
beyond your 
borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you 
will be 
allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders" which is 
baseball without 
fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs. 
7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear 
weapons if 
they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware 
that there is 
a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The 
Russians 
have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "5hit". 
You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no 
longer be 
allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a 
vegetable 
peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to 
handle 
potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you 
wish to carry 
a vegetable peeler in public. 
8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2th will be 
a new 
national holiday, but only in England. It will be 
called "Indecisive Day". 
9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is 
for your own 
good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we 
mean. All 
road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will 
start driving 
on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go 
metric with 
immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. 
Roundabouts 
and metrication will help you understand the British sense of 
humour. 
10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call 
French fries 
are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian 
though 97.85% 
of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) 
are not 
aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on 
calling potato 
chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and 
fried in 
animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which 
should be 
served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more 
aggressive with 
customers. 
11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be 
added to all 
tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity 
to be 
doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself. 
12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not 
actually beer 
at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British 
Bitter will be 
referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted 
provenance 
will be referred to as "Lager". The substances formerly known 
as "American 
Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Knat's 
Urine", with the 
exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose 
product 
will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Knat's Urine". This 
will allow true 
Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, 
Czech 
Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion. 
13. From December 1st the UK will harmonise petrol 
(or "Gasoline" as you 
will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) 
prices with the 
former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the 
former USA and 
the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly 
$6/US gallon 
- get used to it). 
14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using 
guns, lawyers or 
therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and 
therapists shows that 
you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be 
handled by 
adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without 
suing someone 
or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to 
handle a gun. 
15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy. 
Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you 
shortly to 
ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776). 
Thank you for your cooperation. 

From: Noam The Fraudulant Bone
To: all the braindead fat fucking yanks who BELIEVE that their system is FAIR and FREE...what a load of BULLSHIT!!!!
Subject: Voting Fraud in the 2004 Presidential Election
Date: Mon Nov 8 00:03:51 2004

Message:
Voting Fraud in the 2004 Presidential Election

The exit polls
The exit polls were dismissed as being innaccurate. But their 
accuracy depended on the type of voting machine that was used, 
implying that the machines, not the polls, were inaccurate. 
Florida
Indiana
North Carolina
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Florida 
The counties that used optical scanner machines to record votes 
showed a consistent pattern of far more votes for Bush and far 
less votes for Kerry than projected, based on the number of 
registered republicans and democrats. 
The counties in Florida that used touchscreen voting had a 
relatively normal distribution of final votes for Bush and Kerry 
compared to the amount of registered democrats and republicans 
and the projected turnout. 
Compare just the counties that had from 80,000-500,000 voters.
Broward County
Early Thursday, as Broward County elections officials wrapped up 
after a long day of canvassing votes, something unusual caught 
their eye. Tallies should go up as more votes are counted. 
That's simple math. But in some races, the numbers had 
gone . . . down. 
Officials found the software used in Broward can handle only 
32,000 votes per precinct. After that, the system starts 
counting backward. Why a voting system would be designed to 
count backward was a mystery to Broward County Mayor Ilene 
Lieberman. She was on the phone late Wednesday with Omaha-based 
Elections Systems and Software.
Collier County 
Voter Turnout was 127,409. 128,352 votes were cast for president.
Duval County 
Voter Turnout was 379,257. 379,614 votes were cast for president.
Glades County 
Voter Turnout was 3,446. 4,188 votes were cast for president.
Highlands County
Voter Turnout was 33,996. 41,491 votes were cast for president.
Lake County 
Voter Turnout was 123,751. 123,938 votes were cast for president.
Miami Dade County
Voter Turnout was 716,574. 768,553 votes were cast for president.
Okaloosa County 
Voter Turnout was 89,485. 89,707 votes were cast for 
president.Orange County
Voter Turnout was 386,104. 387,752 votes were cast for president.
Osceola County 
Voter Turnout was 63,589. 82,178 votes were cast for president.
Leon County 
Voter Turnout was 136229. 136,314 votes were cast for president.
Palm Beach County
Voter Turnout was 452,061. 542,835 votes were cast for president.
Volusia County
Voter Turnout was 209,052. 228,358 votes were cast for president.
Indiana
Laport County
The day after a two-and-a-half-hour delay in counting ballots 
due to a glitch in a computer program, LaPorte County election 
officials are still trying to figure out what happened. "Maybe 
there was a power surge," LaPorte County Clerk Lynne Spevak 
said. "Something zapped it." At about 7 p.m. Tuesday, it was 
noticed that the first two or three printouts from individual 
precinct reports all listed an identical number of voters. Each 
precinct was listed as having 300 registered voters. That means 
the total number of voters for the county would be 22,200, 
although there are actually more than 79,000 registered voters.

Mecklenburg County 

Questions started arising Wednesday when Republicans pointed out 
a significant discrepancy in the original unofficial results: 
more early votes than early voters. Elections officials 
immediately moved to audit the early vote totals and released 
new numbers Thursday. In response to Observer questions Friday, 
Dickerson said some vote totals were typed in by hand election 
night rather than electronically downloaded because of a 
computer glitch. ...Dickerson said he believes the county's 
voting machines functioned properly. 

...The audited vote totals issued Thursday derailed a Democratic 
sweep of the three at-large county commissioner seats -- for 
now, at least. It left the second, third and fourth vote-getters 
within fewer than 100 votes of each other.
North Carolina
Carteret County
More than 4,000 early votes were lost because the electronic 
voting system could not store the volume of votes it received. 
The county was told by the manufacturer of the voting system 
that its units could store up to 10,500 votes, but the limit was 
actually 3,005 votes. 
Chowan County
Elections board officials were busy tallying corrections 
Wednesday to results in Guilford, Yadkin and Chowan counties, 
Bartlett said. Craven CountyA systems software glitch in Craven 
County's electronic voting equipment is being blamed for a vote 
miscount that, when corrected, changed the outcome of at least 
one race in Tuesday's election.
Then, in the rush to make right the miscalculation that swelled 
the number of votes for president here by 11,283 more votes than 
the total number cast, a human mistake further delayed accurate 
totals for the 40,534 who voted.
Ohio
Cuyahoga County has an inverse relationship between voter 
turnout and support for Kerry. Raw data compiled by Joe Knapp.
In Parma, precint 6450 the turnout was 94%. 40% of the voters 
left the presidential candidate blank, according to county 
records.
Franklin County
Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 
votes to Democrat John Kerry's 260 votes in a precinct in 
Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that 
precinct. 
An electronic voting machine added 3,893 votes to President 
Bush's tally in a suburban Columbus precinct, even though there 
are just 800 voters there.
Warren County
Citing concerns about potential terrorism, Warren County 
officials locked down the county administration building on 
election night and blocked anyone from observing the vote count 
as the nation awaited Ohio's returns. 
County officials say they took the action Tuesday night for 
homeland security, although state elections officials said they 
didn't know of any other Ohio county that closed off its 
elections board. Media organizations protested, saying it 
violated the law and the public's rights. The Warren results, 
delayed for hours because of long lines that extended voting 
past the scheduled close of polls, were part of the last tallies 
that helped clinch President Bush's re-election. Bush actually 
received 365 votes in the precinct, Matthew Damschroder, 
director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, told The 
Columbus Dispatch.
Pennsylvania
Mercer County 
Lark charged that a number of voters may have been 
disenfranchised by the problems that shut down voting machines 
for all or most of the day. Some precincts didn't have enough 
paper ballots for people to fill out, and Lark said he suspects 
some people didn't bother coming back when a new supply of paper 
ballots arrived. He had no estimate on how many people may have 
missed a chance to vote, but he did have some questions Friday 
about the accuracy of the count coming out of the electronic 
machines that were working. 
Lark cited statistics collected by a poll worker at the Farrell 
municipal building poll, which showed the voting machine 
recorded that 289 people cast ballots. The machine, however, 
recorded a total of 48 votes for U.S. Sen. John Kerry and three 
votes for George W. Bush in the presidential race. Lark said he 
finds it difficult to believe that only 51 people out of the 289 
who voted actually cast a ballot in the presidential race. 
http://www.boycottusa.org

From: Noam The Impeaching Bone
To: to all limeys, poms whatever out there who are almost as thick as the fat fucking yanks: IMPEACH THAT CUNT BLAIR!!!!!
Subject: Revealed: motion that could spell Blair's end Nov 7 2004
Date: Mon Nov 8 00:02:45 2004

Message:
Revealed: motion that could spell Blair's end Nov 7 2004
 http://www.truthout.org 
Greg Lewis, Wales on Sunday  
A WELSH MP's bid to bring down Prime Minister Tony Blair over 
the Iraq war takes a dramatic step forward today with the first 
publication of the impeachment motion.
Wales on Sunday can reveal the full text of the document which 
will be set before Parliament by Plaid Cymru's Adam Price.

Mr Price, and the cross-party group of MPs supporting him, says 
the motion proves the campaign is far more than a "silly season 
stunt".

They want to use the centuries-old impeachment procedure to 
explore charges of "gross misconduct" against Mr Blair and bring 
him to account for "lies" told about last year's Iraq war, 
including claims that Saddam Hussein was hiding weapons of mass 
destruction.
The document calls for a special investigation into Mr 
Blair's "advocacy of the case for war against Iraq" and 
his "conduct of policy" over the war.

It has been drawn up by leading QC and Tory MP Douglas Hogg, 
checked before the House of Commons authorities and could now be 
chosen by the Speaker for a full debate.
The process could see Mr Blair face trial by the House of Lords 
and, if found guilty, be removed from office.
Mr Price said the campaign had chosen to strike now because of 
American President George W Bush's re-election this week. It 
also follows a report in esteemed medical journal The Lancet, 
which claimed the number of civilian deaths in Iraq was much 
higher than previously thought.
"It estimates up to 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians may have 
died since Tony Blair and George Bush invaded Iraq," Mr Price 
said last night.
"And we now have the evidence to prove the Prime Minister lied 
about the reasons for that invasion.

"He must be held accountable for those lies and impeachment is 
the only way for this to happen. I think it is important because 
of the mood of the country that this motion is put into the 
public domain now.

"With 100,000 civilians having lost their lives, all Mr Blair 
stands to lose is his job for misleading Parliament, the people 
and our armed forces."

The Carmarthen East and Dinefwr MP launched the impeachment 
campaign in August with the publication of A Case To Answer, a 
document accusing Mr Blair of "high crimes and misdemeanours".

"When we initially raised the prospect of impeachment there were 
people who said the process no longer existed," he added.

"We can now conclusively prove that it is part of the 
constitution and it can be done. If this were political point 
scoring we could never have taken it this far."

His colleague, Meirionnydd Nant Conwy MP Elfyn Llwyd, 
added: "The publication of the text of the motion will put to 
bed accusations that impeachment was nothing but a silly season 
stunt. This is a real and serious course of action which we have 
not undertaken lightly.

"If we allow Tony Blair's actions to go unchallenged, a 
precedent will have been set that a UK Prime Minister can 
deceive the Welsh and UK public and parliament and get away with 
it," he added.

"We cannot allow this to happen, especially in light of Mr 
Bush's re-election. Who knows what country they will choose to 
invade next and who could believe any justification for any such 
invasion?"

And Mr Hogg added: "This is a significant move forward in our 
attempt to bring the Prime Minster to account for his 
duplicitous action with regards to Iraq."

Twenty-three MPs - 10 Tories, five Scottish Nationalists, four 
Plaid, two Lib Dems and two Independents - currently back the 
campaign and, when the next Parliamentary session begins later 
this month, Mr Price hopes to double that number.
http://www.truthout.org
Mr Price said there is no bar which the campaign needs to reach 
to get the motion debated. The decision is made by the House of 
Commons Speaker, Michael Martin.
 http://www.truthout.org

From: Noam The Suicidal Bone
To: I wish and I pray all those FATR FUCKS in the us would KILL THEMSELVES!!!
Subject: 17 Reasons Not to Slit Your Wrists...by Michael Moore
Date: Fri Nov 5 22:20:41 2004

Message:
17 Reasons Not to Slit Your Wrists...by Michael Moore 

Dear Friends, www.bushisacunt.com


Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. But before you go and cash it all 
in, let's, in the words of Monty Python,   always look on the 
bright side of life!   There IS some good news from Tuesday's 
election. 

Here are 17 reasons not to slit your wrists: 

1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president 
again. 

2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president 
since Woodrow Wilson in 1916. 
www.bushisacunt.com

3. The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was 
young adults (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that 
your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to 
them. 

4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think 
the country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the 
war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don  t approve of the job 
George W. Bush is doing (52%). (Note to foreigners: Don't try to 
figure this one out. It's an American thing, like Pop Tarts.) 

5. The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat 
majority in the Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush 
won't be able to pack the Supreme Court with right-wing 
ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do their job?" Um, maybe 
better to scratch this one. 

6. Michigan voted for Kerry! So did the entire Northeast, the 
birthplace of our democracy. So did 6 of the 8 Great Lakes 
States. And the whole West Coast! Plus Hawaii. Ok, that's a 
start. We've got most of the fresh water, all of Broadway, and 
Mt. St. Helens. We can dehydrate them or bury them in lava. And 
no more show tunes! 
www.bushisacunt.com

7. Once again we are reminded that the buckeye is a nut, and not 
just any old nut -- a poisonous nut. A great nation was felled 
by a poisonous nut. May Ohio State pay dearly this Saturday when 
it faces Michigan. 

8. 88% of Bush's support came from white voters. In 50 years, 
America will no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years 
isn't such a long time! If you're ten years old and reading 
this, your golden years will be truly golden and you will be 
well cared for in your old age. 

9. Gays, thanks to the ballot measures passed on Tuesday, cannot 
get married in 11 new states. Thank God. Just think of all those 
wedding gifts we won't have to buy now. 

10. Five more African Americans were elected as members of 
Congress, including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. 
It's always good to have more blacks in there fighting for us 
and doing the job our candidates can't. 

11. The CEO of Coors was defeated for Senate in Colorado. Drink 
up! 

12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to 
go away. 

13. At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of 
at least 3 chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-
controlled state legislative chambers (house/assembly and 
senate), Democrats went into the 2004 elections in control of 44 
chambers, Republicans controlled 53 chambers, and 1 chamber was 
tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47 chambers, 
Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber 
(Montana House) is still undecided. 

14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater 
moment than the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for 
him from here on out -- and, more significantly, he's just not 
going to want to do all the hard work that will be expected of 
him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th grade -- you've 
already made it, so it's party time! Perhaps he'll treat the 
next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time 
at the ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn't he? He's 
already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ass. 

15. Should Bush decide to show up to work and take this country 
down a very dark road, it is also just as likely that either of 
the following two scenarios will happen: a) Now that he doesn't 
ever need to pander to the Christian conservatives again to get 
elected, someone may whisper in his ear that he should spend 
these last four years building "a legacy" so that history will 
render a kinder verdict on him and thus he will not push for too 
aggressive a right-wing agenda; or b) He will become so cocky 
and arrogant -- and thus, reckless -- that he will commit a 
blunder of such major proportions that even his own party will 
have to remove him from office. 

16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of 
them of voting age. We only lost by three and a half million! 
That's not a landslide -- it means we're almost there. Imagine 
losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards to go before you 
reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of those 
yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball 
and go home crying -- especially when you get to start the next 
down on the three yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! 
More sports analogies are coming!!! 

17. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans 
voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." 
That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either 
Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for 
Kerry than Reagan. If the media are looking for a trend it 
should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first 
time since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. 
The country has always been filled with evangelicals -- that is 
not news. What IS news is that so many people have shifted 
toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact, that's BIG news. Which 
means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones who brought 
you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November 
2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the 
element of surprise in 2008. 

Feeling better? I hope so. As my friend Mort wrote me 
yesterday, "My Romanian grandfather used to say to 
me, 'Remember, Morton, this is such a wonderful country  -- it 
doesn't even need a president!'" 
www.bushisacunt.com

But it needs us. Rest up, I'll write you again tomorrow. 

Yours, 

Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
www.michaelmoore.com 
www.bushisacunt.com

From: Noam The Despotic Bone
To: all the brainwashed yanky seppo fucks out there slamming down their burgers while cheese drips off their chins!
Subject: HITLER STALIN BUssH
Date: Fri Nov 5 21:51:17 2004

Message:
Hitler was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year in 1938. Stalin was 
TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year for 1939 and 1942. Both of these 
men, and many others also celibrated by the media, were 
unimaginable monsters. The lesson from these facts is that it 
isn't easy to spot a genocidal tyrant when you live with one, 
especially one whom the press supports and promotes. Tyrants 
become obvious only when looking back, after what they have done 
becomes known. The German people did not stand up to Hitler 
because their media betrayed them, just as the American media is 
betraying the American people by willingly, voluntarily, even 
proudly, abandoning its traditional role as watchdog against 
government abuse. 


Go to www.WHATREALLYHAPPENED.com for the rest: 
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/reich.html

From: Noam The Glad-That-BuSSh-Won Bone
To: to all the BRAINDEAD, MOrbidly Obese, Geographically Challenged, Sexually Repressed Yanky CUNTS out there:
Subject: INCREDIBLE : Bush's one-finger salute! - Here's a clip of GW Bush in classic form as he prepares to be videotaped -http://www.aceofweb.com/incredible/ (http://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.)
Date: Fri Nov 5 21:48:51 2004

Message:
INCREDIBLE : Bush's one-finger salute! - Here's a clip of GW 
Bush in classic form as he prepares to be videotaped -
http://www.aceofweb.com/incredible/ 
(http://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.b
ushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.) 
INCREDIBLE : Bush's one-finger salute! 

Here's a clip of GW Bush in classic form as he prepares to be 
videotaped:

http://www.aceofweb.com/incredible/ 



Aren't you GLAD he's one - he's SO mature!! 
 

From: Noam The Glad-That-BuSSh-Won Bone
To: to all the BRAINDEAD, MOrbidly Obese, Geographically Challenged, Sexually Repressed Yanky CUNTS out there:
Subject: INCREDIBLE : Bush's one-finger salute! - Here's a clip of GW Bush in classic form as he prepares to be videotaped -http://www.aceofweb.com/incredible/ (http://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.)
Date: Tue Jan 21 22:43:17 2003

Message:
INCREDIBLE : Bush's one-finger salute! - Here's a clip of GW 
Bush in classic form as he prepares to be videotaped -
http://www.aceofweb.com/incredible/ 
(http://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.b
ushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.comhttp://www.bushisacunt.) 
INCREDIBLE : Bush's one-finger salute! 

Here's a clip of GW Bush in classic form as he prepares to be 
videotaped



Aren't you GLAD he's one - he's SO mature!! 
 

From: Noam the ALIVE Bone
To: all the alive right-wing,bush-loving,christ-masturbating,braindead americans out there/....PHEW! that;'s A LOT OF DEAD YANKS! not enough though! Where's the other 20 000 they missed??? Hmph! Incomplete list!! What about ACCURACY for christ's sake!!!
Subject: DEAD SEPPOS DEAD YANKS DEAD AMERICANS DEAD AMERIKKKANS DEAD SCUM that deserve to be DEAD
Date: Fri Nov 5 01:26:22 2004

Message:
Jonathan W. Collins, Chief Warrant Officer Lawrence S. Colton, 
Spc. Zeferino E. Colunga, Sgt. Robert E. Colvill, Sgt. Kenneth 
Conde 
Jr., Sgt. Timothy M. Conneway, Spc. Steven D. Conover, Capt. 
Aaron J. Contreras, Lance Cpl. Pedro Contreras, Sgt. Jason Cook, 
Command Sgt. Major Eric F. Cooke, Sgt. Dennis A. Corral, Chief 
Warrant Officer Alexander S. Coulter, 2nd Lt. Leonard M. 
Cowherd, Spc. Gregory A. Cox, Pfc. Ryan R. Cox, Lance Corporal 
Timothy R. Creager, Sgt. Michael T. Crockett, Staff Sgt. Ricky 
L. Crockett, Sgt. Brud J. Cronkrite, Lance Cpl. Kyle D. Crowley, 
Pvt. Rey D. Cuervo, Pfc. Kevin A. Cuming, Spc. Daniel Francis 
J.Cunningham, Staff Sgt. Darren J. Cunningham, Spc. Carl F. 
Curran, Cpl. Michael Edward Curtin, Staff Sgt. Christopher E. 
Cutchall, Pfc. Brian K. Cutter, Pfc. Anthony D. D'Agostino, Spc. 
Edgar P. Daclan Jr., Capt. Nathan S. Dalley, Lance Cpl. Andrew 
S. Dang, Spc. Danny B. Daniels II, Pvt. 1st Class Torey J. 
Dantzler, Pfc. Norman Darling, Capt. Eric B. Das. Spc. Shawn M. 
Davies, Pvt. Brandon L. Davis, Staff Sgt. Craig Davis, Staff 
Sgt. Donald N. Davis, Spc. Raphael S. Davis, Staff 
Sgt. Wilbert Davis, Staff Sgt. Jeffrey F. Dayton, Pvt. Jason L. 
Deibler, Spc. Lauro G. DeLeon Jr., Sgt. Felix M. Delgreco, Sgt. 
Jacob H. Demand, Staff Sgt. Mike A. Dennie, Spc. Darryl T. Dent, 
Pfc. Ervin Dervishi, Spc. Daniel A. Desens, Pfc. Michael R. 
Deuel, Pvt. Michael J. Deutsch, Petty Officer 3rd Class 
Christopher M. Dickerson, Cpl. Nicholas J. Dieruf, Spc. Jeremiah 
J. DiGiovanni, Spc. Jeremy M. Dimaranan, Spc. Michael A. 
Diraimondo, Spc. Anthony J. Dixon, Spc. Ryan E. Doltz, Sgt. 
Michael E. Dooley, Chief Warrant Officer Patrick D. Dorff, Petty 
Officer 2nd Class Trace W. Dossett, Lance Cpl. Scott E. 
Dougherty, 1st Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy, Pfc. Stephen P. Downing II, 
Spc. Chad H. Drake, Pvt. Jeremy L. Drexler, Cpl. Jason L. 
Dunham, Staff Sgt. Joe L. Dunigan Jr., Spc. Robert L. DuSang, 
Spc. William D. Dusenbery, 2nd Lt. Seth J. Dvorin, Petty Officer 
2nd Class Jason B. Dwelley, Pfc. Sheldon R. Hawk Eagle, Staff 
Sgt. Richard S. Eaton Jr., Cpl. Christopher S. Ebert, Sgt. 
William C. Eckhart, Spc. Marshall L. Edgerton, Pfc. Shawn C. 
Edwards, Spc. Andrew C. Ehrlich, Sgt. Aaron C. Elandt, Spc. 
William R. Emanuel IV, Lance Cpl. Mark E. Engel, Spc. Peter G. 
Enos, Senior Airman Pedro I. Espaillat Jr. Pfc. Analaura Esparza 
Gutierrez, Sgt. Adam W. Estep, Pvt. Ruben 
Estrella-Soto, Pfc. David Evans, Cpl. Mark A. Evnin, Pfc. Jeremy 
Ricardo Ewing, Sgt. Justin L. Eyerly, Pvt. Jonathan I. Falaniko, 
Sgt. James D. Faulkner, Pfc. Raymond J. Faulstich Jr., Capt. 
Brian R. Faunce, Capt. Arthur L. Felder, 2nd Lt. Paul M. 
Felsberg, Spc. Rian C. Ferguson, Master Sgt. Richard L. 
Ferguson, Master Sgt. George A. Fernandez, Staff Sgt. Clint D. 
Ferrin, Spc. Jon P. Fettig, Cpl. Tyler R. Fey, Sgt. Jeremy J. 
Fischer, Sgt. Paul F. Fisher, Lance Cpl. Dustin R. Fitzgerald, 
Pfc. Jacob S. Fletcher, Spc. Thomas A. Foley III, Sgt. Timothy 
Folmar, Gunnery Sgt. Elia P. Fontecchio, Spc. Jason C. Ford, 
Capt. Travis A. Ford, Chief Warrant Officer Wesley C. 
Fortenberry, Sgt. 1st Class Bradley C. Fox, Spc. Craig S. Frank, 
Lance Cpl. Phillip E. Frank, Staff Sgt. Bobby C. Franklin, Pvt. 
Robert L. Frantz, Pvt. Benjamin L. Freeman, Sgt. David T. 
Friedrich, Spc. Luke P. Frist, Spc. Adam D. Froehlich, Pvt. Kurt 
R. Frosheiser, Pfc. Nichole M. Frye, Sgt. 1st Class Dan H. 
Gabrielson, Lance Cpl. Jonathan E. Gadsden, Capt. Richard J. 
Gannon II, Spc. Tomas Garces, Lance Cpl. Derek L. Gardner, Cpl. 
Jose A. Garibay, Spc. Joseph M. Garmback Jr., Sgt. Landis W. 
Garrison, Sgt. Justin W. Garvey, Spc. Israel Garza. 1st Sgt. Joe 
J. Garza, Pfc. Juan Guadalupe Garza Jr, Spc. Christopher D. 
Gelineau, Lance Cpl. Cory Ryan Guerin, Cpl. 
Christopher A. Gibson, Pvt. Jonathan L. Gifford, Pvt. Kyle C. 
Gilbert, Command Sgt. Maj. Cornell W. Gilmore, Petty Officer 3rd 
Class Ronald A. Ginther, Pfc. Jesse A. Givens, Spc. Michael T. 
Gleason, Cpl. Todd J. Godwin, 2nd Lt. James Michael Goins, Spc. 
Christopher A. Golby, Spc. David J. Goldberg, Lance Cpl. Shane 
L. Goldman,(I wish CUNT STOP THE USA!!!'s name was here!;) Cpl. 
Armando Ariel Gonzalez, Lance Cpl. Benjamin R. Gonzalez, Cpl. 
Jesus A. Gonzalez, Cpl. Jorge Gonzalez, Lance Cpl. Victor A. 
Gonzalez, Cpl. Bernard G. Gooden, Pfc. Gregory R. Goodrich, Sgt. 
1st Class Richard S. Gottfried, Spc. Richard A. Goward, 2nd Lt. 
Jeffrey C. Graham, Sgt. Jamie A. Gray, Petty Officer 2nd Class 
Michael J. Gray, Sgt. Tommy L. Gray, Lance 
Cpl. Torrey L. Gray, Cpl. Jeffrey G. Green, Lt. Col. David S. 
Greene, Pfc. Devin J. Grella, Spc. Kyle A. Griffin, Staff Sgt. 
Patrick Lee Griffin Jr., Cpl. Sean R. Grilley, Pvt. Joseph R. 
Guerrera, Chief Warrant Officer Hans N. Gukeisen, Pfc. Christian 
D. Gurtner, Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, Pfc. Richard W. Hafer, 
Staff Sgt. Guy S. Hagy Jr., Spc. Charles G. Haight, Lance Cpl. 
Michael J. Halal, Pfc. Deryk L. Hallal, Pvt. Jesse M. Halling, 
Pfc. Andrew Halverson, Chief Warrant Officer Erik A. Halvorsen, 
Capt. Kimberly N. Hampton, Sgt. Michael S. Hancock. Pfc. 
Fernando B. Hannon, Sgt. Warren S. Hansen, Sgt. James W. 
Harlan, Sgt. Atanacio Haro Marin, Staff Sgt. William M. Harrell, 
Sgt. Foster L. Harrington, Pfc. Adam J. Harris, Sgt. Kenneth W. 
Harris Jr., Pfc. Torry D. Harris, Pfc. Leroy Harris-Kelly, (ha 
ha you're dead :D)Pfc. John D. Hart, Sgt. Nathaniel Hart, Sgt. 
1st Class David A. Hartman, Sgt. Jonathan N. Hartman, Staff Sgt. 
Stephen C. Hattamer, Staff Sgt. Omer T. Hawkins II, Sgt. Timothy 
L. Hayslett, Chief Warrant Officer Brian D. Hazelgrove, Sgt. 
David M. Heath, Spc. Justin W. Hebert, Pfc. Damian L. 
Heidelberg, Pfc. 
Raheen Tyson Heighter, Spc. Jeremy M. Heines, Staff Sgt. Brian 
R. Hellerman, Staff Sgt. Terry W. Hemingway, Cpl. Matthew C. 
Henderson, 1st Lt. Robert L. Henderson II, Staff Sgt. Kenneth W. 
Hendrickson, Sgt. Jack T. Hennessy, Spc. Joshua J. Henry, Pfc. 
Clayton W. Henson, Spc. Armando Hernandez, Spc. Joseph F. 
Herndon II, Pfc. Edward J. Herrgott, Spc. Jacob B. Herring, Sgt. 
1st Class Gregory B. Hicks, Spc. Christopher K. Hill, Spc. 
Stephen D. Hiller, Sgt. Keicia M. Hines, Pfc. Melissa J. 
Hobart,Sgt. Nicholas M. Hodson, Sgt. 1st Class James T. Hoffman, 
Spc. Christopher J. Holland (dead SEPPO), Staff Sgt. Aaron N. 
Holleyman, Staff 
Sgt. Lincoln D. Hollinsaid, Spc. James J. Holmes, Spc. Jeremiah 
J. Holmes, Cpl. Terry Holmes, Airman 1st Class Antoine J. Holt, 
Pfc. Sean Horn, Master Sgt. Kelly L.Hornbeck. 
Staff Sgt. Jeremy R. Horton, Capt. Andrew R. Houghton, Lance Cpl 
Gregory C. Howman, Pfc. Bert E. Hoyer, Spc. Corey A. Hubbell, 
Pfc. Christopher E. Hudson, 1st Lt. Doyle M. Hufstedler, Staff 
Sgt. Jamie L. Huggins, Spc. Eric R. Hull, Cpl Barton R. Humlhanz
(I love it when yanks DIE:)), Lance Cpl. Justin T. Hunt, Spc. 
Simeon Hunte, 1st Lt. Joshua C. Hurley, Lance Cpl. James B. 
Huston Jr., Lance Cpl. Seth Huston, Pvt. Nolen R. Hutchings, 
Pfc. Ray J. Hutchinson, Pfc. Gregory P. Huxley Jr., Spc. 
Benjamin W. Isenberg, Spc. 
Craig S. Ivory, Pfc. Leslie D. Jackson, Spc. Morgen N. Jacobs, 
Chief Warrant Officer Scott Jamar, Cpl. Evan T. James, 2nd Lt. 
Luke S. James, Spc. William A. Jeffries, Petty Officer 2nd Class 
Robert B. Jenkins, Sgt. Troy David Jenkins, Spc. Darius T. 
Jennings, Pfc. Ryan M. Jerabek, Sgt. Linda C. Jimenez, 1st Lt. 
Oscar Jimenez, Capt. Christopher B. Johnson, Spc. David W. 
Johnson, Pfc. Howard Johnson II, Spc. John P. Johnson, Pfc. 
Markus J. Johnson, Spc. Maurice J. Johnson, Hospital Corpsman 
3rd Class Michael Vann Johnson Jr., Spc. Nathaniel H. Johnson, 
Staff Sgt. Paul J. Johnson, Chief Warrant Officer, Pfc. Rayshawn 
S. Johnson, Pvt. Devon D. Jones, Capt. Gussie M. Jones, Staff 
Sgt. Raymond E. Jones Jr., Spc. Rodney A. Jones, Lt. Kylan A. 
Jones- Huffman, Sgt. Curt E. Jordan Jr.(that should read: Sgt. 
CUNT E. Jordan Jr.!!! ha ha), Sgt. Jason D. Jordan.
Staff Sgt. Phillip A. Jordan, Cpl. Forest J. Jostes, Spc. 
Spencer T. Karol, Spc. Michael G. Karr Jr., Spc. Mark J. 
Kasecky, 1st Lt. Jeffrey J. Kaylor, Spc. Chad L. Keith, Lance 
Cpl. Quinn A. Keith, Lance Cpl. Bryan P. Kelly, Cpl. Brian 
Kennedy, Chief Warrant Officer Kyran E. Kennedy, Staff Sgt. 
Morgan D. Kennon, 1st Lt. Christopher J. Kenny, Spc. Jonathan R. 
Kephart, Cpl. Dallas L. Kerns, Chief Warrant Officer Erik C. 
Kesterson, Capt. Humayun S. M. Khan, Spc. James M. Kiehl, Pt. 
Jeungjin Na Kim, Staff Sgt. Kevin C. Kimmerly. Spc. Levi B. 
Kinchen, Staff Sgt. Lester O. Kinney II, Pfc. David M. 
Kirchhoff, Staff Sgt. Charles A. Kiser, Lance Cpl. Nicholas 
Brian Kleiboeker, Spc. John K. Klinesmith Jr., Sgt. Floyd G. 
Knighten Jr., Petty Officer 3rd Class Eric L. Knott, Spc. Joshua 
L. Knowles, Staff Sgt. Lance J. Koenig, Cpl. Kevin T. Kolm, 
Pfc.Martin W. Kondor, Chief Warrant Patrick W. Kordsmeier, Capt. 
Edward J. Korn, Sgt. Bradley S. Korthaus, Cpl. Jakub Henryk 
Kowalik, Sgt. Elmer C. Krause, Pvt. Dustin L. Kreider, Pfc. 
Bradley G. Kritzer, Capt. John F. Kurth, Sgt. 1st Class William 
W. Labadie Jr., Sgt. Joshua S. Ladd, Sgt. Michael V. Lalush, 
Lance Cpl. Alan Dinh Lam, Spc. Charles R. Lamb, Spc. James I. 
Lambert III, Pfc. James P. Lambert, Sgt. Jonathan W. Lambert, 
Capt. Andrew David Lamont, Staff Sgt. Sean G. Landrus, Gunnery 
Sgt. Shawn A. Lane. Pfc. Moises A. Langhorst, Spc. Tracy L. 
Laramore, Spc. Scott Q. Larson Jr., Chief Warrant Officer 
Matthew C. Laskowski, Staff Sgt. William T. Latham, Pfc. Karina 
S. Lau, Cpl. Jeffrey D. Lawrence, Staff Sgt. Mark A. Lawton, 
Lance Cpl. Travis J. Layfield, Staff Sgt. Rene Ledesma, 2nd Lt. 
Ryan Leduc, Cpl. Bum R. Lee( ha ha his name is BUM like ARSE!!! 
what an asshole I bet HE is glad he's dead!!), Pfc. Ken W. 
Leisten, Staff Sgt. Jerome Lemon, Spc. Cedric L. Lennon, Pfc. 
Farad K. Letufuga, Spc. Justin W. Linden, Spc. Roger G. Ling, 
Spc. Joseph L. Lister, Staff Sgt. Nino D. Livaudais, Sgt. Dale 
T. Lloyd, Sgt. Daniel J. Londono, Spc. Ryan P. Long, Spc. 
Zachariah W. Long, Pfc. Duane E. Longstreth, Sgt. Edgar E. 
Lopez, Lance Cpl. Juan Lopez, Sgt. Richard M. Lord, 
Staff Sgt. David L. Loyd, Capt. Robert L. Lucero, Pfc. Jason C. 
Ludiam, Lance Cpl. Jacob R. Lugo, Pfc. Jason N. Lynch, Pfc. 
Christopher D. Mabry, Lance Cpl. Gregory E. MacDonald, Lance 
Cpl. Cesar F. Machado-Olmos, Pfc. Vorn J. Mack, Lance Cpl. 
Joseph B. Maglione, Spc. William J. Maher III, Staff Sgt. Toby  
Officer Ian D. Manuel, Pfc. Pablo Manzano, Pfc. Lyndon A. Marcus 
Jr., Staff Sgt. Paul C. Mardis Jr., Cpl. Douglas Jose 
Marencoreyes, Master Sgt. Jude C. Mariano, Spc. James E. 
Marshall, Sgt. 1st Class John W. Marshall, Pfc. Ryan A. Martin, 
Staff Sgt. Stephen G. Martin. Sgt. Francisco Martinez, Pfc. 
Francisco A. Martinez Flores, Pfc. Jesse J. Martinez, Spc. 
Michael A. Martinez, Pfc. Oscar A. Martinez, Spc. Jacob D. 
Martir, Sgt. Arthur S. Mastrapa, Chief 
Warrant Officer Johnny Villareal Mata, Lance Cpl. Ramon Mateo, 
Spc. Clint Richard Matthews, Lance Cpl. Ramon Mateo, Cpl. 
Matthew E. Matula, Staff Sgt. Donald C. May Jr, Pfc. Joseph P. 
Mayek, Spc. Patrick R. McCaffrey Sr., Lance Cpl. Joseph C. 
MacCarthy, Pfc. Ryan M. McCauley, Cpl. Brad P. McCormick, 1st 
Lt. Erik. S. McCrae, Spc. Donald R. McCune, Spc. Dustin K. 
McGaugh, Pfc. Holly J. McGeogh, Sgt. Brian D. McGinnis, Spc. 
Michael A. McGlothin. Petty Officer 2nd Class Scott R. McHugh, 
Hospitalman Joshua McIntosh, Spc. David M. McKeever, Spc. Eric 
S. McKinley, Pvt. Robert L. McKinley, Staff Sgt. Don S. McMahan, 
Sgt. Heath A. McMillin, 1st Lt. Brian M. McPhillips, Cpl. Jesus 
(crucified!)
Martin Antonio Medellin, Spc. Irving Medina, Spc. Kenneth A. 
Melton, Cpl. Jaygee Meluat, Petty Officer 3rd Class Fernando A. 
Mendezaceves, Gunnery Sgt. Joseph Menusa, Staff Sgt. Eddie E. 
Menyweather, Spc. Gil Mercado, Spc. Michael M. Merila, Spc. 
Christopher A. Merville, Sgt. Daniel K. Methvin, Pfc. Jason M. 
Meyer, Sgt. Eliu A. Miersandoval, Spc. Michael G. Mihalakis, 
Pfc. Matthew G. Milczark, Cpl. Jason David Mileo, Pfc. Anthony 
S. Miller, Pfc. Bruce Miller Jr., Staff Sgt. Frederick L. Miller 
Jr. Sgt. 1st Class Marvin L. Miller, Sgt. Joseph Minucci II, 
Sgt. First Class Troy L. Miranda, Spc. George A. Mitchell, Sgt. 
Keman 
L. Mitchell, Sgt. Michael W. Mitchell, Spc. Sean R. Mitchell, 
Pfc. Jesse D. Mizener, Staff Sgt. Jorge A. Molinabautista, Pfc. 
Anthony W. Monroe, 1st Lt. Adam G. Mooney, Lance Cpl. Jason 
William Moore, Pfc. Stuart W. Moore, Sgt. Travis A. Moothart, 
Spc. Jose L. Mora, Sgt. Melvin Y. Mora, Pfc. Michael A. Mora, (I 
sorta get bored here reading all these dead american 
names...dead cunts!)Master Sgt. Kevin N. Morehead, Capt. Brent 
L. Morel, Petty Officer 3rd Class David J. Moreno, Sgt. Gerardo 
Moreno, Spc. Jaime Moreno, Pfc. Luis A. Moreno, Spc. Dennis B. 
Morgan, Staff Sgt. Richard L. Morgan Jr., Pfc. Geoffery S. 
Morris, Pfc. Ricky A. Morris Jr., Lance Cpl. Nicholas B. 
Morrison, Sgt. Shawna M. Morrison, Sgt. Keelan L. Moss, Spc. 
Clifford L. Moxley Jr., Sgt. 
Cory R. Mracek, Sgt. Rodney A. Murray, Sgt. Krisna Nachampassak, 
Spc. Paul T. Nakamura, Spc. Nathan W. Nakis, Pvt. Kenneth A. 
Nalley, Chief Warrant Officer Christopher G. Nason, Maj. Kevin 
G. Nave, Spc. Rafael L. Navea, Spc. Charles L. Neeley, Staff 
Sgt. Paul M. Neff II, Pfc. Gavin L. Neighbor, Spc. Joshua M. 
Neusche, Cpl. Dominique J. Nicolas, Lance Cpl. Joseph L. Nice, 
Spc. Isaac Michael Nieves, Lance Cpl. Patrick R. Nixon, 
Spc.Allen Nolan, Spc. Marcos O. Nolasco. Sgt. William J. 
Normandy, Spc. Joseph C. Norquist, 1st Lt. Leif 
E. Nott, Staff Sgt. Todd E. Nunes, Spc. David T. Nutt, Cpl. Mick 
R. Nygardbekowsky, Spc. Donald S. Oak Jr., Pfc. Branden F. 
Oberleitner, Lance Cpl. Patrick T. O'Day, Spc. Charles E. Odums 
II, Spc. Ramon C. Ojeda, Cpl. Terry Holmes Ordonez, Cpl. Brian 
Oliveira, Spc. Justin B. Onwordi, Spc. Richard P. Orengo, Lt. 
Col. Kim S. Orlando, Lance Cpl. Eric J. Orlowski, 1st Lt. 
Osbaldo Orozco, Pfc. Cody J. Orr, Staff Sgt. Billy J. Orton, 
Sgt. Pamela G. Osbourne, Lance Cpl. Deshon E. Otey, Pfc. Kevin 
C. Ott, Sgt. Michael G. Owen, Lance Cpl. David Edward Owens Jr, 
Sgt. Fernando Padilla- Ramirez, Pvt. Shawn D. Pahnke, Spc. 
Gabriel T. Palacios, Capt. Eric T. Paliwoda, 1st Lt. Joshua M. 
Palmer, Staff Sgt. Dale A. Panchot, Pfc. Daniel R. Parker, Pfc. 
James D. Parker, Pfc. Kristen Parker, Cpl. Tommy L. Parker Jr., 
Sgt. Harvey E. Parkerson III, Sgt. David B. Parson, Staff Sgt. 
Esau G. Patterson Jr., Master Sgt. William L. Payne, Sgt. 
Michael F. Pedersen, Staff Sgt. Abraham D. Penamedina, Spc. 
Brian H. Penisten, Sgt. Ross A. Pennanen, Staff Sgt. Gregory V. 
Pennington, Pfc. Geoffrey Perez, Staff Sgt. Hector R. Perez, 
Sgt. Joel Perez, Spc. Jose A. Perez III, Pfc. Luis A. Perez, 
Lance Cpl. Nicholas Perez. Hey where's the other 20 000 you 
missed????? Hmph! Incomplete! That's a lot of dead yanks isn't 
it??? (THIS IS IN RED FOR THEIR BLOOD!!) :D

From: Noam The Left-Wing Pinko Bone
To: all the right-wing CHRISTIAN seppo cunts who are 1. FAT 2. Geographically Challenged 3. DUMB 4. Sexually Repressed 5. live in Texas or Kentucky YOU ARE ALL CUNTS pure and simple!! ha ha ;)
Subject: My first thoughts after the election...
Date: Fri Nov 5 01:21:11 2004

Message:
Thursday, November 4th, 2004
My first thoughts after the election... 

Cpl. Roberto Abad, Sgt. Michael D. Acklin II, Spc. Genaro 
Acosta, Pfc. Steven Acosta, Capt. James F. Adamouski, Pvt. 
Algernon Adams, Sgt. Brandon E. Adams, Spc. Clarence Adams III, 
1st Lt. Michael R. Adams, Pfc. Michael S. Adams, Lt. Thomas 
Mullen Adams, Spc. Jamaal R. Addison, Lance Cpl. Patrick R. 
Adle, Capt. Tristan N. Aitken, Spc. Segun Frederick Akintade, 
Lance Cpl. Nickalous N. Aldrich, Spc. Ronald D. Allen Jr., Sgt. 
Glenn R. Allison, Lance Cpl. Michael J. Allred, Capt. Eric L. 
Allton, Cpl. Nicanor Alvarez, Cpl. Daniel R. Amaya, Pfc. John D. 
Amos II, Lance Cpl. Brian E. Anderson, Airman 1st Class Carl L. 
Anderson Jr., Petty Officer 2nd Class Michael C. Anderson, Spc. 
Michael Andrade, Pfc, Spc. Yoe M. Aneiros, Lance Cpl. Levi T. 
Angell, Army Spc. Edward J. Anguiano, Chief Warrant Officer 
Andrew Todd Arnold, Lance Cpl. Alexander S. Arredondo, Spc. 
Richard Arriaga, Staff Sgt. Jimmy J. Arroyave, Spc. Robert R. 
Arsiaga, Sgt. Evan Asa Ashcraft, Pfc. Shawn M. Atkins, Maj. Jay 
Aubin, Capt. Matthew J. August, Lance Cpl. Aaron C. Austin, Spc. 
Tyanna S. Avery-Fedder, Lance Cpl. Andrew Julian Aviles, Pfc. 
Eric A. Ayon, Sgt. 1st Class Henry A. Bacon, Sgt. Andrew Joseph 
Baddick, Staff Sgt. Daniel A. Bader, Staff Sgt. Nathan J. 
Bailey, Spc. Ronald W. Baker, Spc. Ryan T. Baker, Sgt. Sherwood 
R. Baker. 

Pfc. Chad E. Bales, 1st Lt. Kenneth Michael Ballard, Maj. Spc. 
Solomon C. Bangayan, Lt. Col. Dominic R. Baragona, Pfc. Mark A. 
Barbret, Pfc. Collier E. Barcus, Sgt. Michael C. Barkey, Spc. 
Jonathan P. Barnes, Command Sgt. Maj. Edward C. Barnhill, Lance 
Cpl. Aric J. Barr, Sgt. Michael Paul Barrera, Maj. Carlos Barro 
Ollero, Sgt. Douglas E. Bascom, Spc. Todd M. Bates, Sgt. 1st 
Class Michael Battles Sr., Gunnery Sgt. Ronald E. Baum, Spc. 
Alan N. Bean Jr., Spc. Bradley S. Beard, Spc. Beau R. Beaulieu, 
Capt. Ryan Beaupre, Spc. James L. Beckstrand, Sgt. Gregory A. 
Belanger, Cpl. Christopher Belchik, Sgt. Aubrey D. Bell, Pfc. 
Wilfred D. Bellard, Staff Sgt. Joseph P. Bellavia, Sgt. 1st 
Class William M. Bennett, Spc. Robert T. Benson, 1st Lt. David 
R. Bernstein, Spc. Joel L. Bertoldie, Staff Sgt. Stephen A. 
Bertolino Sr., Staff Sgt. Marvin Best, Cpl. Mark A. Bibby, Sgt. 
Benjamin W. Biskie, Sgt. Michael E. Bitz, Sgt. Jarrod W. Black, 
Chief Warrant Officer Michael T. Blaise, Capt. Ernesto M. 
Blanco, Command Sgt. Maj. James D. Blankenbecler, Spc. Joseph M. 
Blickenstaff, Spc. Nicholas H. Blodgett, Sgt. Trevor A. 
Blumberg, Lance Cpl. Jeremy L. Bohlman, Gunnery Sgt. Jeffrey E. 
Bohr Jr., Lance Cpl. Todd J. Bolding, Sgt. Dennis J. Boles, Sgt. 
1st Class Craig A. Boling, Petty Officer 3rd Class Doyle W. 
Bollinger Jr, Sgt. 1st Class Kelly Bolor, Staff Sgt. Stevon A. 
Booker. 

Chief Warrant Officer Clarence E. Boone, Capt. John J. Boria, 
Pfc. Rachel K. Bosveld, Spc. Mathew G. Boule, Staff Sgt. Elvis 
Bourdon, Pvt. 1st Class Samuel R. Bowen, Staff Sgt. Hesley Box 
Jr., Pvt. Noah L. Boye, Lance Cpl. Aaron Boyles, Spc. Edward W. 
Brabazon, Cpl. Travis J. Bradach-Nall, Staff Sgt. Kenneth R. 
Bradley, Staff Sgt. Stacey C. Brandon, Spc. Artimus D. 
Brassfield, Pfc. Joel K. Brattain, Pfc. Jeffrey F. Braun, Chief 
Warrant Officer William I. Brennan, Staff Sgt. Steven H. 
Bridges, Spc. Kyle A. Brinlee, Staff Sgt. Cory W. Brooks, Sgt. 
Thomas F. Broomhead, Sgt. Andrew W. Brown, Tech. Sgt. Bruce E. 
Brown, Lance Cpl. Dominic C. Brown, Cpl. Henry L. Brown, Pfc. 
John E. Brown, Spc. Larry K. Brown, Spc. Lunsford B. Brown II, 
1st Lt. Tyler H. Brown, Spc. Philip D. Brown, Pfc. Timmy R. 
Brown Jr., 1st Lt. Tyler H. Brown, Cpl. Andrew D. Brownfield, 
Petty Officer 3rd Class Nathan B. Bruckenthal, Lance Cpl. Cedric 
E. Bruns, 2nd Lt. Todd J. Bryant, Sgt. Ernest G. Bucklew, Spc. 
Roy Russell Buckley, Pfc. Paul J. Bueche, Lt. Col. Charles H. 
Buehring, Lance Cpl. Brian Rory Buesing, Sgt. George Edward 
Buggs, Spc. Joshua I. Bunch, Staff Sgt. Christopher Bunda, Staff 
Sgt. Michael L. Burbank, Staff Sgt. Richard A. Burdick, Spc. 
Alan J. Burgess, Lance Cpl. Jeffrey C. Burgess, Pfc. Tamario D. 
Burkett, Sgt. Travis L. Burkhardt. 

Pfc. David P. Burridge, Pfc. Jesse R. Buryj, Pfc. Charles E. 
Bush Jr., Pvt. Matthew D. Bush, Pfc. Damian S. Bushart, Sgt. 
Jacob L. Butler, Capt. Joshua T. Byers, Cpl. Juan C. 
Cabralbanuelos, Pfc. Cody S. Calavan, Sgt. Juan Calderon Jr, 
Sgt. Charles T. Caldwell, Spc. Nathaniel A. Caldwell, Staff Sgt. 
Joseph Camara, Spc. Michael C. Campbell, Sgt. Ryan M. Campbell, 
Spc. Marvin A. Camposiles, Spc. Isaac Campoy, Spc. Ervin 
Caradine Jr., Spc. Adolfo C. Carballo, Pfc. Michael M. Carey, 
Cpl. Richard P. Carl, Pfc. Ryan G. Carlock, Pfc. Benjamin R. 
Carman, Staff Sgt. Edward W. Carmen, Spc. Jocelyn L. 
Carrasquillo, Sgt. Frank T. Carvill, Capt. Christopher S. Cash, 
Spc. Ahmed A. Cason, Pfc. Jose Casanova, Lance Cpl. James A. 
Casper, Capt. Paul J. Cassidy, Staff Sgt. Roland L. Castro, Sgt. 
Sean K. Cataudella, Lance Cpl. Steven C. T. Cates, Pfc. Thomas 
D. Caughman, Staff Sgt. James W. Cawley, Spc. Jessica L. Cawvey, 
Petty Officer 3rd Class David A. Cedergren, Lance Cpl. Manuel A. 
Ceniceros, Cpl. Kemaphoom A. Chanawongse, Spc. James A. Chance 
III, Staff Sgt. William D. Chaney, Chief Warrant Officer Robert 
William Channell Jr., Spc. Jason K. Chappell, Pfc. Jonathan M. 
Cheatham, Sgt. Yohjyh L. Chen, Lance Cpl. Marcus M. Cherry, 2nd 
Lt. Therrel S. Childers, Spc. Andrew F. Chris. 

Staff Sgt. Thomas W. Christensen, Spc. Brett T. Christian, Spc. 
Arron R. Clark, Staff Sgt. Michael J. Clark, Lance Cpl. Donald 
J. Cline Jr., Pfc. Christopher R. Cobb, Lance Cpl. Kyle W. 
Codner, 1st Sgt. Christopher D. Coffin, Pvt. Bradli N. Coleman, 
Cpl. Gary B. Coleman, 2nd Lt. Benjamin J. Colgan, Sgt. Russell 
L. Collier, Sgt. 1st Class Gary L. Collins, Lance Cpl. Jonathan 
W. Collins, Chief Warrant Officer Lawrence S. Colton, Spc. 
Zeferino E. Colunga, Sgt. Robert E. Colvill, Sgt. Kenneth Conde 
Jr., Sgt. Timothy M. Conneway, Spc. Steven D. Conover, Capt. 
Aaron J. Contreras, Lance Cpl. Pedro Contreras, Sgt. Jason Cook, 
Command Sgt. Major Eric F. Cooke, Sgt. Dennis A. Corral, Chief 
Warrant Officer Alexander S. Coulter, 2nd Lt. Leonard M. 
Cowherd, Spc. Gregory A. Cox, Pfc. Ryan R. Cox, Lance Corporal 
Timothy R. Creager, Sgt. Michael T. Crockett, Staff Sgt. Ricky 
L. Crockett, Sgt. Brud J. Cronkrite, Lance Cpl. Kyle D. Crowley, 
Pvt. Rey D. Cuervo, Pfc. Kevin A. Cuming, Spc. Daniel Francis J. 
Cunningham, Staff Sgt. Darren J. Cunningham, Spc. Carl F. 
Curran, Cpl. Michael Edward Curtin, Staff Sgt. Christopher E. 
Cutchall, Pfc. Brian K. Cutter, Pfc. Anthony D. D'Agostino, Spc. 
Edgar P. Daclan Jr., Capt. Nathan S. Dalley, Lance Cpl. Andrew 
S. Dang, Spc. Danny B. Daniels II, Pvt. 1st Class Torey J. 
Dantzler, Pfc. Norman Darling, Capt. Eric B. Das. 

Spc. Shawn M. Davies, Pvt. Brandon L. Davis, Staff Sgt. Craig 
Davis, Staff Sgt. Donald N. Davis, Spc. Raphael S. Davis, Staff 
Sgt. Wilbert Davis, Staff Sgt. Jeffrey F. Dayton, Pvt. Jason L. 
Deibler, Spc. Lauro G. DeLeon Jr., Sgt. Felix M. Delgreco, Sgt. 
Jacob H. Demand, Staff Sgt. Mike A. Dennie, Spc. Darryl T. Dent, 
Pfc. Ervin Dervishi, Spc. Daniel A. Desens, Pfc. Michael R. 
Deuel, Pvt. Michael J. Deutsch, Petty Officer 3rd Class 
Christopher M. Dickerson, Cpl. Nicholas J. Dieruf, Spc. Jeremiah 
J. DiGiovanni, Spc. Jeremy M. Dimaranan, Spc. Michael A. 
Diraimondo, Spc. Anthony J. Dixon, Spc. Ryan E. Doltz, Sgt. 
Michael E. Dooley, Chief Warrant Officer Patrick D. Dorff, Petty 
Officer 2nd Class Trace W. Dossett, Lance Cpl. Scott E. 
Dougherty, 1st Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy, Pfc. Stephen P. Downing II, 
Spc. Chad H. Drake, Pvt. Jeremy L. Drexler, Cpl. Jason L. 
Dunham, Staff Sgt. Joe L. Dunigan Jr., Spc. Robert L. DuSang, 
Spc. William D. Dusenbery, 2nd Lt. Seth J. Dvorin, Petty Officer 
2nd Class Jason B. Dwelley, Pfc. Sheldon R. Hawk Eagle, Staff 
Sgt. Richard S. Eaton Jr., Cpl. Christopher S. Ebert, Sgt. 
William C. Eckhart, Spc. Marshall L. Edgerton, Pfc. Shawn C. 
Edwards, Spc. Andrew C. Ehrlich, Sgt. Aaron C. Elandt, Spc. 
William R. Emanuel IV, Lance Cpl. Mark E. Engel, Spc. Peter G. 
Enos, Senior Airman Pedro I. Espaillat Jr. 

Pfc. Analaura Esparza Gutierrez, Sgt. Adam W. Estep, Pvt. Ruben 
Estrella-Soto, Pfc. David Evans, Cpl. Mark A. Evnin, Pfc. Jeremy 
Ricardo Ewing, Sgt. Justin L. Eyerly, Pvt. Jonathan I. Falaniko, 
Sgt. James D. Faulkner, Pfc. Raymond J. Faulstich Jr., Capt. 
Brian R. Faunce, Capt. Arthur L. Felder, 2nd Lt. Paul M. 
Felsberg, Spc. Rian C. Ferguson, Master Sgt. Richard L. 
Ferguson, Master Sgt. George A. Fernandez, Staff Sgt. Clint D. 
Ferrin, Spc. Jon P. Fettig, Cpl. Tyler R. Fey, Sgt. Jeremy J. 
Fischer, Sgt. Paul F. Fisher, Lance Cpl. Dustin R. Fitzgerald, 
Pfc. Jacob S. Fletcher, Spc. Thomas A. Foley III, Sgt. Timothy 
Folmar, Gunnery Sgt. Elia P. Fontecchio, Spc. Jason C. Ford, 
Capt. Travis A. Ford, Chief Warrant Officer Wesley C. 
Fortenberry, Sgt. 1st Class Bradley C. Fox, Spc. Craig S. Frank, 
Lance Cpl. Phillip E. Frank, Staff Sgt. Bobby C. Franklin, Pvt. 
Robert L. Frantz, Pvt. Benjamin L. Freeman, Sgt. David T. 
Friedrich, Spc. Luke P. Frist, Spc. Adam D. Froehlich, Pvt. Kurt 
R. Frosheiser, Pfc. Nichole M. Frye, Sgt. 1st Class Dan H. 
Gabrielson, Lance Cpl. Jonathan E. Gadsden, Capt. Richard J. 
Gannon II, Spc. Tomas Garces, Lance Cpl. Derek L. Gardner, Cpl. 
Jose A. Garibay, Spc. Joseph M. Garmback Jr., Sgt. Landis W. 
Garrison, Sgt. Justin W. Garvey, Spc. Israel Garza. 

1st Sgt. Joe J. Garza, Pfc. Juan Guadalupe Garza Jr, Spc. 
Christopher D. Gelineau, Lance Cpl. Cory Ryan Guerin, Cpl. 
Christopher A. Gibson, Pvt. Jonathan L. Gifford, Pvt. Kyle C. 
Gilbert, Command Sgt. Maj. Cornell W. Gilmore, Petty Officer 3rd 
Class Ronald A. Ginther, Pfc. Jesse A. Givens, Spc. Michael T. 
Gleason, Cpl. Todd J. Godwin, 2nd Lt. James Michael Goins, Spc. 
Christopher A. Golby, Spc. David J. Goldberg, Lance Cpl. Shane 
L. Goldman, Cpl. Armando Ariel Gonzalez, Lance Cpl. Benjamin R. 
Gonzalez, Cpl. Jesus A. Gonzalez, Cpl. Jorge Gonzalez, Lance 
Cpl. Victor A. Gonzalez, Cpl. Bernard G. Gooden, Pfc. Gregory R. 
Goodrich, Sgt. 1st Class Richard S. Gottfried, Spc. Richard A. 
Goward, 2nd Lt. Jeffrey C. Graham, Sgt. Jamie A. Gray, Petty 
Officer 2nd Class Michael J. Gray, Sgt. Tommy L. Gray, Lance 
Cpl. Torrey L. Gray, Cpl. Jeffrey G. Green, Lt. Col. David S. 
Greene, Pfc. Devin J. Grella, Spc. Kyle A. Griffin, Staff Sgt. 
Patrick Lee Griffin Jr., Cpl. Sean R. Grilley, Pvt. Joseph R. 
Guerrera, Chief Warrant Officer Hans N. Gukeisen, Pfc. Christian 
D. Gurtner, Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, Pfc. Richard W. Hafer, 
Staff Sgt. Guy S. Hagy Jr., Spc. Charles G. Haight, Lance Cpl. 
Michael J. Halal, Pfc. Deryk L. Hallal, Pvt. Jesse M. Halling, 
Pfc. Andrew Halverson, Chief Warrant Officer Erik A. Halvorsen, 
Capt. Kimberly N. Hampton, Sgt. Michael S. Hancock. 

Pfc. Fernando B. Hannon, Sgt. Warren S. Hansen, Sgt. James W. 
Harlan, Sgt. Atanacio Haro Marin, Staff Sgt. William M. Harrell, 
Sgt. Foster L. Harrington, Pfc. Adam J. Harris, Sgt. Kenneth W. 
Harris Jr., Pfc. Torry D. Harris, Pfc. Leroy Harris-Kelly, Pfc. 
John D. Hart, Sgt. Nathaniel Hart, Sgt. 1st Class David A. 
Hartman, Sgt. Jonathan N. Hartman, Staff Sgt. Stephen C. 
Hattamer, Staff Sgt. Omer T. Hawkins II, Sgt. Timothy L. 
Hayslett, Chief Warrant Officer Brian D. Hazelgrove, Sgt. David 
M. Heath, Spc. Justin W. Hebert, Pfc. Damian L. Heidelberg, Pfc. 
Raheen Tyson Heighter, Spc. Jeremy M. Heines, Staff Sgt. Brian 
R. Hellerman, Staff Sgt. Terry W. Hemingway, Cpl. Matthew C. 
Henderson, 1st Lt. Robert L. Henderson II, Staff Sgt. Kenneth W. 
Hendrickson, Sgt. Jack T. Hennessy, Spc. Joshua J. Henry, Pfc. 
Clayton W. Henson, Spc. Armando Hernandez, Spc. Joseph F. 
Herndon II, Pfc. Edward J. Herrgott, Spc. Jacob B. Herring, Sgt. 
1st Class Gregory B. Hicks, Spc. Christopher K. Hill, Spc. 
Stephen D. Hiller, Sgt. Keicia M. Hines, Pfc. Melissa J. Hobart, 
Sgt. Nicholas M. Hodson, Sgt. 1st Class James T. Hoffman, Spc. 
Christopher J. Holland, Staff Sgt. Aaron N. Holleyman, Staff 
Sgt. Lincoln D. Hollinsaid, Spc. James J. Holmes, Spc. Jeremiah 
J. Holmes, Cpl. Terry Holmes, Airman 1st Class Antoine J. Holt, 
Pfc. Sean Horn, Master Sgt. Kelly L. Hornbeck. 

Staff Sgt. Jeremy R. Horton, Capt. Andrew R. Houghton, Lance Cpl 
Gregory C. Howman, Pfc. Bert E. Hoyer, Spc. Corey A. Hubbell, 
Pfc. Christopher E. Hudson, 1st Lt. Doyle M. Hufstedler, Staff 
Sgt. Jamie L. Huggins, Spc. Eric R. Hull, Cpl Barton R. 
Humlhanz, Lance Cpl. Justin T. Hunt, Spc. Simeon Hunte, 1st Lt. 
Joshua C. Hurley, Lance Cpl. James B. Huston Jr., Lance Cpl. 
Seth Huston, Pvt. Nolen R. Hutchings, Pfc. Ray J. Hutchinson, 
Pfc. Gregory P. Huxley Jr., Spc. Benjamin W. Isenberg, Spc. 
Craig S. Ivory, Pfc. Leslie D. Jackson, Spc. Morgen N. Jacobs, 
Chief Warrant Officer Scott Jamar, Cpl. Evan T. James, 2nd Lt. 
Luke S. James, Spc. William A. Jeffries, Petty Officer 2nd Class 
Robert B. Jenkins, Sgt. Troy David Jenkins, Spc. Darius T. 
Jennings, Pfc. Ryan M. Jerabek, Sgt. Linda C. Jimenez, 1st Lt. 
Oscar Jimenez, Capt. Christopher B. Johnson, Spc. David W. 
Johnson, Pfc. Howard Johnson II, Spc. John P. Johnson, Pfc. 
Markus J. Johnson, Spc. Maurice J. Johnson, Hospital Corpsman 
3rd Class Michael Vann Johnson Jr., Spc. Nathaniel H. Johnson, 
Staff Sgt. Paul J. Johnson, Chief Warrant Officer, Pfc. Rayshawn 
S. Johnson, Pvt. Devon D. Jones, Capt. Gussie M. Jones, Staff 
Sgt. Raymond E. Jones Jr., Spc. Rodney A. Jones, Lt. Kylan A. 
Jones- Huffman, Sgt. Curt E. Jordan Jr., Sgt. Jason D. Jordan. 

Staff Sgt. Phillip A. Jordan, Cpl. Forest J. Jostes, Spc. 
Spencer T. Karol, Spc. Michael G. Karr Jr., Spc. Mark J. 
Kasecky, 1st Lt. Jeffrey J. Kaylor, Spc. Chad L. Keith, Lance 
Cpl. Quinn A. Keith, Lance Cpl. Bryan P. Kelly, Cpl. Brian 
Kennedy, Chief Warrant Officer Kyran E. Kennedy, Staff Sgt. 
Morgan D. Kennon, 1st Lt. Christopher J. Kenny, Spc. Jonathan R. 
Kephart, Cpl. Dallas L. Kerns, Chief Warrant Officer Erik C. 
Kesterson, Capt. Humayun S. M. Khan, Spc. James M. Kiehl, Pt. 
Jeungjin Na Kim, Staff Sgt. Kevin C. Kimmerly. Spc. Levi B. 
Kinchen, Staff Sgt. Lester O. Kinney II, Pfc. David M. 
Kirchhoff, Staff Sgt. Charles A. Kiser, Lance Cpl. Nicholas 
Brian Kleiboeker, Spc. John K. Klinesmith Jr., Sgt. Floyd G. 
Knighten Jr., Petty Officer 3rd Class Eric L. Knott, Spc. Joshua 
L. Knowles, Staff Sgt. Lance J. Koenig, Cpl. Kevin T. Kolm, Pfc. 
Martin W. Kondor, Chief Warrant Patrick W. Kordsmeier, Capt. 
Edward J. Korn, Sgt. Bradley S. Korthaus, Cpl. Jakub Henryk 
Kowalik, Sgt. Elmer C. Krause, Pvt. Dustin L. Kreider, Pfc. 
Bradley G. Kritzer, Capt. John F. Kurth, Sgt. 1st Class William 
W. Labadie Jr., Sgt. Joshua S. Ladd, Sgt. Michael V. Lalush, 
Lance Cpl. Alan Dinh Lam, Spc. Charles R. Lamb, Spc. James I. 
Lambert III, Pfc. James P. Lambert, Sgt. Jonathan W. Lambert, 
Capt. Andrew David Lamont, Staff Sgt. Sean G. Landrus, Gunnery 
Sgt. Shawn A. Lane. 

Pfc. Moises A. Langhorst, Spc. Tracy L. Laramore, Spc. Scott Q. 
Larson Jr., Chief Warrant Officer Matthew C. Laskowski, Staff 
Sgt. William T. Latham, Pfc. Karina S. Lau, Cpl. Jeffrey D. 
Lawrence, Staff Sgt. Mark A. Lawton, Lance Cpl. Travis J. 
Layfield, Staff Sgt. Rene Ledesma, 2nd Lt. Ryan Leduc, Cpl. Bum 
R. Lee, Pfc. Ken W. Leisten, Staff Sgt. Jerome Lemon, Spc. 
Cedric L. Lennon, Pfc. Farad K. Letufuga, Spc. Justin W. Linden, 
Spc. Roger G. Ling, Spc. Joseph L. Lister, Staff Sgt. Nino D. 
Livaudais, Sgt. Dale T. Lloyd, Sgt. Daniel J. Londono, Spc. Ryan 
P. Long, Spc. Zachariah W. Long, Pfc. Duane E. Longstreth, Sgt. 
Edgar E. Lopez, Lance Cpl. Juan Lopez, Sgt. Richard M. Lord, 
Staff Sgt. David L. Loyd, Capt. Robert L. Lucero, Pfc. Jason C. 
Ludiam, Lance Cpl. Jacob R. Lugo, Pfc. Jason N. Lynch, Pfc. 
Christopher D. Mabry, Lance Cpl. Gregory E. MacDonald, Lance 
Cpl. Cesar F. Machado-Olmos, Pfc. Vorn J. Mack, Lance Cpl. 
Joseph B. Maglione, Spc. William J. Maher III, Staff Sgt. Toby 
W. Mallet, Chief Warrant Officer Ian D. Manuel, Pfc. Pablo 
Manzano, Pfc. Lyndon A. Marcus Jr., Staff Sgt. Paul C. Mardis 
Jr., Cpl. Douglas Jose Marencoreyes, Master Sgt. Jude C. 
Mariano, Spc. James E. Marshall, Sgt. 1st Class John W. 
Marshall, Pfc. Ryan A. Martin, Staff Sgt. Stephen G. Martin. 

Sgt. Francisco Martinez, Pfc. Francisco A. Martinez Flores, Pfc. 
Jesse J. Martinez, Spc. Michael A. Martinez, Pfc. Oscar A. 
Martinez, Spc. Jacob D. Martir, Sgt. Arthur S. Mastrapa, Chief 
Warrant Officer Johnny Villareal Mata, Lance Cpl. Ramon Mateo, 
Spc. Clint Richard Matthews, Lance Cpl. Ramon Mateo, Cpl. 
Matthew E. Matula, Staff Sgt. Donald C. May Jr, Pfc. Joseph P. 
Mayek, Spc. Patrick R. McCaffrey Sr., Lance Cpl. Joseph C. 
MacCarthy, Pfc. Ryan M. McCauley, Cpl. Brad P. McCormick, 1st 
Lt. Erik. S. McCrae, Spc. Donald R. McCune, Spc. Dustin K. 
McGaugh, Pfc. Holly J. McGeogh, Sgt. Brian D. McGinnis, Spc. 
Michael A. McGlothin. Petty Officer 2nd Class Scott R. McHugh, 
Hospitalman Joshua McIntosh, Spc. David M. McKeever, Spc. Eric 
S. McKinley, Pvt. Robert L. McKinley, Staff Sgt. Don S. McMahan, 
Sgt. Heath A. McMillin, 1st Lt. Brian M. McPhillips, Cpl. Jesus 
Martin Antonio Medellin, Spc. Irving Medina, Spc. Kenneth A. 
Melton, Cpl. Jaygee Meluat, Petty Officer 3rd Class Fernando A. 
Mendezaceves, Gunnery Sgt. Joseph Menusa, Staff Sgt. Eddie E. 
Menyweather, Spc. Gil Mercado, Spc. Michael M. Merila, Spc. 
Christopher A. Merville, Sgt. Daniel K. Methvin, Pfc. Jason M. 
Meyer, Sgt. Eliu A. Miersandoval, Spc. Michael G. Mihalakis, 
Pfc. Matthew G. Milczark, Cpl. Jason David Mileo, Pfc. Anthony 
S. Miller, Pfc. Bruce Miller Jr., Staff Sgt. Frederick L. Miller 
Jr. 

Sgt. 1st Class Marvin L. Miller, Sgt. Joseph Minucci II, Sgt. 
First Class Troy L. Miranda, Spc. George A. Mitchell, Sgt. Keman 
L. Mitchell, Sgt. Michael W. Mitchell, Spc. Sean R. Mitchell, 
Pfc. Jesse D. Mizener, Staff Sgt. Jorge A. Molinabautista, Pfc. 
Anthony W. Monroe, 1st Lt. Adam G. Mooney, Lance Cpl. Jason 
William Moore, Pfc. Stuart W. Moore, Sgt. Travis A. Moothart, 
Spc. Jose L. Mora, Sgt. Melvin Y. Mora, Pfc. Michael A. Mora, 
Master Sgt. Kevin N. Morehead, Capt. Brent L. Morel, Petty 
Officer 3rd Class David J. Moreno, Sgt. Gerardo Moreno, Spc. 
Jaime Moreno, Pfc. Luis A. Moreno, Spc. Dennis B. Morgan, Staff 
Sgt. Richard L. Morgan Jr., Pfc. Geoffery S. Morris, Pfc. Ricky 
A. Morris Jr., Lance Cpl. Nicholas B. Morrison, Sgt. Shawna M. 
Morrison, Sgt. Keelan L. Moss, Spc. Clifford L. Moxley Jr., Sgt. 
Cory R. Mracek, Sgt. Rodney A. Murray, Sgt. Krisna Nachampassak, 
Spc. Paul T. Nakamura, Spc. Nathan W. Nakis, Pvt. Kenneth A. 
Nalley, Chief Warrant Officer Christopher G. Nason, Maj. Kevin 
G. Nave, Spc. Rafael L. Navea, Spc. Charles L. Neeley, Staff 
Sgt. Paul M. Neff II, Pfc. Gavin L. Neighbor, Spc. Joshua M. 
Neusche, Cpl. Dominique J. Nicolas, Lance Cpl. Joseph L. Nice, 
Spc. Isaac Michael Nieves, Lance Cpl. Patrick R. Nixon, Spc. 
Allen Nolan, Spc. Marcos O. Nolasco. 

Sgt. William J. Normandy, Spc. Joseph C. Norquist, 1st Lt. Leif 
E. Nott, Staff Sgt. Todd E. Nunes, Spc. David T. Nutt, Cpl. Mick 
R. Nygardbekowsky, Spc. Donald S. Oak Jr., Pfc. Branden F. 
Oberleitner, Lance Cpl. Patrick T. O'Day, Spc. Charles E. Odums 
II, Spc. Ramon C. Ojeda, Cpl. Terry Holmes Ordonez, Cpl. Brian 
Oliveira, Spc. Justin B. Onwordi, Spc. Richard P. Orengo, Lt. 
Col. Kim S. Orlando, Lance Cpl. Eric J. Orlowski, 1st Lt. 
Osbaldo Orozco, Pfc. Cody J. Orr, Staff Sgt. Billy J. Orton, 
Sgt. Pamela G. Osbourne, Lance Cpl. Deshon E. Otey, Pfc. Kevin 
C. Ott, Sgt. Michael G. Owen, Lance Cpl. David Edward Owens Jr, 
Sgt. Fernando Padilla- Ramirez, Pvt. Shawn D. Pahnke, Spc. 
Gabriel T. Palacios, Capt. Eric T. Paliwoda, 1st Lt. Joshua M. 
Palmer, Staff Sgt. Dale A. Panchot, Pfc. Daniel R. Parker, Pfc. 
James D. Parker, Pfc. Kristen Parker, Cpl. Tommy L. Parker Jr., 
Sgt. Harvey E. Parkerson III, Sgt. David B. Parson, Staff Sgt. 
Esau G. Patterson Jr., Master Sgt. William L. Payne, Sgt. 
Michael F. Pedersen, Staff Sgt. Abraham D. Penamedina, Spc. 
Brian H. Penisten, Sgt. Ross A. Pennanen, Staff Sgt. Gregory V. 
Pennington, Pfc. Geoffrey Perez, Staff Sgt. Hector R. Perez, 
Sgt. Joel Perez, Spc. Jose A. Perez III, Pfc. Luis A. Perez, 
Lance Cpl. Nicholas Perez. 

Spc. Wilfredo Perez Jr., Petty Officer 1st Class Michael J. 
Pernaselli, Staff Sgt. David S. Perry, Pfc. Charles C. Persing, 
Staff Sgt. Dustin W. Peters, Spc. Alyssa R. Peterson, Staff Sgt. 
Brett J. Petriken, Staff Sgt. James L. Pettaway Jr., Staff Sgt. 
Erickson H. Petty, Pfc. Jerrick M. Petty, Lt. Col. Mark P. 
Phelan, Pfc. Chance R. Phelps, Sgt. 1st Class Gladimir Philippe, 
Sgt. Ivory L. Phipps, Capt. Pierre E. Piche, Pfc. Lori Piestewa, 
Capt. Dennis L. Pintor, Spc. James H. Pirtle, Pfc. Jason T. 
Poindexter, 2nd Lt. Frederick E. Pokorney Jr., Staff Sgt. Andrew 
R. Pokorny, Spc. Justin W. Pollard, Spc. Larry E. Polley Jr., 
Sgt. Darrin K. Potter, Pfc. David L. Potter, Sgt. Christopher S. 
Potts, Spc. James E. Powell, Lance Cpl. Caleb J. Powers, Cpl. 
Dean P. Pratt, Pfc. James E. Prevete, Pvt. Kelley S. Prewitt, 
Sgt. Tyler D. Prewitt, Pfc. James W. Price, 1st Lt. Timothy E. 
Price, Lance Cpl. Mathew D. Puckett, Sgt. Jaror C. Puello- 
Coronado, Staff Sgt. Michael B. Quinn, Staff Sgt. Richard P. 
Ramey, Sgt. Christopher Ramirez, Spc. Eric U. Ramirez, Pfc. 
William C. Ramirez, Pfc. Christopher Ramos, Spc. Tamarra J. 
Ramos, Pfc. Brandon Ramsey, Pvt. Carson J. Ramsey, Sgt. Edmond 
L. Randle, Pfc. Cleston C. Raney, Capt. Gregory A. Ratzlaff, 
Spc. Rel A. Ravago IV, Spc. Omead H. Razani. 

Spc. Brandon M. Read, Pfc. Christopher J. Reed, Pfc. Ryan E. 
Reed, Sgt. Tatjana Reed, Staff Sgt. Aaron T. Reese, Spc. Jeremy 
F. Regnier, Sgt. 1st Class Randall S. Rehn, Sgt. Brendon C. 
Reiss, Staff Sgt. George S. Rentschler, Sgt. Sean C. Reynolds, 
Lance Cpl. Rafael Reynosa- Suarez, Sgt. Yadir G. Reynoso, Cpl. 
Demetrius L. Rice, Sgt. Ariel Rico, Spc. Jeremy L. Ridlen, Pfc. 
Diego Fernando Rincon, Cpl. Steven A. Rintamaki, Sgt. Duane R. 
Rios, Capt. Russell B. Rippetoe, Pfc. Henry C. Risner, Sgt. 1st 
Class Jose A. Rivera, Cpl. John T. Rivero, Spc. Frank K. Rivers 
Jr., Sgt. Thomas D. Robbins, Sgt. Todd J. Robbins, Lance Cpl. 
Anthony P. Roberts, Lance Cpl. Bob W. Roberts, Spc. Robert D. 
Roberts, Staff Sgt. Joseph E. Robsky, Sgt. Moses D. Rocha, Pfc. 
Marlin T. Rockhold, Pfc. Jose Francis Gonzalez Rodriguez, Cpl. 
Robert M. Rodriguez, Spc. Philip G. Rogers, Sgt. 1st Class 
Robert E. Rooney, Cpl. Randal Kent Rosacker, Staff Sgt. Victor 
A. Rosales, Pfc. Richard H. Rosas, Sgt. Scott C. Rose, Sgt. 
Thomas C. Rosenbaum, Sgt. Randy S. Rosenberg, Spc. Marco D. 
Ross, Sgt. Lawrence A. Roukey, Capt. Alan Rowe, Spc. Brandon J. 
Rowe, Sgt. Roger D. Rowe, 2nd Lt. Jonathan D. Rozier, Spc. Isela 
Rubalcava, Pfc. Aaron J. Rusin, Sgt. John W. Russell. 

1st Lt. Timothy Louis Ryan, Chief Warrant Officer Scott A. 
Saboe, Spc. Rasheed Sahib, Cpl. Rudy Salas, Cpl. William I. 
Salazar, 1st Lt. Edward M. Saltz, Capt. Benjamin W. Sammis, Spc. 
Sonny G. Sampler, Spc. Gregory P. Sanders, Pfc. Leroy Sandoval 
Jr., Spc. Matthew J. Sandri, Staff Sgt. Barry Sanford, 1st Lt. 
Neil Anthony Santoriello, Spc. Jonathan J. Santos, Pfc. Brandon 
R. Sapp, Staff Sgt. Cameron B. Sarno, Staff Sgt. Scott D. 
Sather, Lance Cpl. Jeremiah E. Savage, Capt. Robert C. Scheetz 
Jr., Spc. Justin B. Schmidt, Spc. Jeremiah W. Schmunk, Pfc. Sean 
M. Schneider, Cpl. Dustin H. Schrage, Maj. Mathew E. Schram, 
Lance Cpl. Brian K. Schramm, Spc. Christian C. Schulz, Master 
Sgt. David A. Scott, Pfc. Kerry D. Scott, Spc. Stephen M. Scott, 
Spc. Marc S. Seiden, Capt. Christopher Scott Seifert, Pfc. 
Dustin M. Sekula, Lance Cpl. Matthew K. Serio, Sgt. Juan M. 
Serrano, Staff Sgt. Wentz Jerome Henry Shanaberger III, Spc. 
Jeffrey R. Shaver, Maj. Kevin M. Shea, Spc. Casey Sheehan, Sgt. 
Kevin F. Sheehan, Sgt. Daniel Michael Shepherd, Sgt. Alan D. 
Sherman, Lt. Col. Anthony L. Sherman, Pfc. Harry N. Shondee Jr., 
Lance Cpl. Brad S. Shuder, Capt. James A. Shull, Pfc. Kenneth L. 
Sickels, Lance Cpl. Dustin L. Sides, Cpl. Erik H. Silva, Pvt. 
Sean A. Silva, Sgt. Leonard D. Simmons. 

Pfc. Charles M. Sims, Lance Cpl. John T. Sims Jr., Spc. Uday 
Singh, Spc. Aaron J. Sissel, Pfc. Christopher A. Sisson, Pfc. 
Nicholas M. Skinner, Petty Officer 3rd Class David Sisung, 1st 
Lt. Brian D. Slavenas, Pvt. Brandon Ulysses Sloan, Lance Cpl. 
Richard P. Slocum, Lance Cpl. Thomas J. Slocum, Pfc. Corey L. 
Small, Sgt. Keith L. Smette, Capt. Benedict J. Smith, Sgt. 
Benjamin K. Smith, Pfc. Brandon C. Smith, 2nd Lt. Brian D. 
Smith, Chief Warrant Officer Bruce A. Smith, Cpl. Darrell L. 
Smith, 1st Sgt. Edward Smith, Chief Warrant Officer Eric A. 
Smith, Pfc. Jeremiah D. Smith, Lance Cpl. Matthew R. Smith, 
Lance Cpl. Michael J. Smith Jr., Spc. Orenthial J. Smith, Sgt. 
1st Class Paul R. Smith, Capt. Christopher F. Soelzer, Sgt. 
Roderic A. Solomon, Cpl. Adrian V. Soltau, Maj. Charles R. 
Soltes Jr., Sgt. Skipper Soram, Pfc. Armando Soriano, Cpl. Tomas 
Sotelo Jr., Pfc. Kenneth C. Souslin, Spc. Philip I. Spakosky, 
Pfc. Jason L. Sparks, Cpl. Michael R. Speer, Staff Sgt. Trevor 
Spink, Maj. Christopher J. Splinter, Sgt. Marvin R. Sprayberry 
III, Pvt. Bryan N. Spry, Sgt. Maj. Michael B. Stack, Pfc. Nathan 
E. Stahl, 1st Lt. Andrew K. Stern, Staff Sgt. Robert A. Stever, 
Maj. Gregory Stone, 2nd Lt. Matthew R. Stovall, Pfc. William R. 
Strange, Sgt. Kirk Allen Straseskie, Pfc. Brandon C. Sturdy. 

Spc. William R. Sturges Jr., Spc. Paul J. Sturino, Lance Cpl. 
Jesus A. Suarez Del Solar, Spc. Joseph D. Suell, Spc. John R. 
Sullivan, Spc. Narson B. Sullivan, Lance Cpl. Vincent M. 
Sullivan, Staff Sgt. Michael J. Sutter, Pfc. Ernest Harold 
Sutphin, Chief Warrant Officer Sharon T. Swartworth, Spc. Thomas 
J. Sweet II, Staff Sgt. Christopher W. Swisher, Maj. Paul R. 
Syverson III, Sgt. Patrick S. Tainsh, Sgt. DeForest L. Talbert, 
Sgt. 1st Class Linda Ann Tarango-Griess, Spc. Christopher M. 
Taylor, Maj. Mark D. Taylor, Capt. John R. Teal, Staff Sgt. 
Riayan A. Tejeda, Lance Cpl. Jason Andrew Tetrault, Spc. Joseph 
C. Thibodeaux, Master Sgt. Thomas R. Thigpen Sr., Cpl. Jesse L. 
Thiry, Sgt. Carl Thomas, Staff Sgt. Kendall Thomas, Spc. Kyle G. 
Thomas, Sgt. Anthony O. Thompson, Spc. Jarrett B. Thompson, Sgt. 
Humberto F. Timoteo, Capt. John E. Tipton, Pfc. Joshua K. 
Titcomb, Spc. Brandon T. Titus, Spc. Brandon S. Tobler, Sgt. Lee 
D. TodacheeneCpl. John H. Todd III, Sgt. Nicholas A. Tomko, 
Master Sgt. Timothy Toney, Pfc. George D. Torres, Lance Cpl. 
Michael S. Torres, 2nd Lt. Richard Torres, Spc. Ramon Reyes 
Torres, Lance Cpl. Elias Torrez III, Sgt. Michael L. Tosto, Spc. 
Richard K. Trevithick, Pfc. Andrew L. Tuazon, Staff Sgt. Roger 
C. Turner Jr., Pvt. Scott M. Tyrrell, 2nd Lt. Andre D. Tyson, 
Spc. Eugene A. Uhl III, Lance Cpl. Drew M. Uhles. 

Rick A. Ulbright, Pfc. Daniel P. Unger, Spc. Robert Oliver 
Unruh, 1st Sgt. Ernest E. Utt, Sgt. Michael A. Uvanni, Staff 
Sgt. Gary A. Vaillant, Lance Cpl. Ruben Valdez Jr., Sgt. Melissa 
Valles, Spc. Allen J. Vandayburg, Spc. Josiah H. Vandertulip, 
Chief Warrant Officer Brian K. Van Dusen, Lance Cpl. John J. 
Vangyzen IV, Lance Cpl. Gary F. Van Leuven, Staff Sgt. Mark D. 
Vasquez, Spc. Frances M. Vega, 1st Lt. Michael W. Vega, Staff 
Sgt. Paul A. Velazquez, Cpl. David M. Vicente, Sgt. 1st Class 
Joselito O. Villanueva, Cpl. Scott M. Vincent, Staff Sgt. 
Kimberly A. Voelz, Staff Sgt. Michael S. Voss, Spc. Thai Vue, 
Lance Cpl. Michael B. Wafford, Sgt. Christopher A. Wagener, Sgt. 
Gregory L. Wahl, Staff Sgt. Allan K. Walker, Sgt. Jeffery C. 
Walker, Sgt. Donald Ralph Walters, Pvt. Jason M. Ward, Pfc. 
Nachez Washalanta, Lance Cpl. Christopher B. Wasser, Pvt. David 
L. Waters, Staff Sgt. Kendall Damon Waters-Bey, Maj. William R. 
Watkins III, Petty Officer 2nd Class Christopher E. Watts, Chief 
Warrant Officer Aaron A. Weaver, Spc. Michael S. Weger, Staff 
Sgt. David J. Weisenburg, Spc. Douglas J. Weismantle, Pfc. 
Michael Russell Creighton Weldon, Lance Cpl. Larry L. Wells, 
Chief Warrant Officer Stephen M. Wells, Spc. Jeffrey M. Wershow, 
Spc. Christopher J. Rivera Wesley, Sgt. James G. West, 1st Lt. 
Alexander E. Wetherbee, Spc. Donald L. Wheeler, Sgt. Mason 
Douglas Whetstone, Pfc. Marquis A. Whitaker. 

Staff Sgt. Aaron Dean White, Lt. Nathan D. White, Sgt. Steven W. 
White, Lance Cpl. William W. White, Pfc. Joey D. Whitener, Spc. 
Chase R. Whitman, Spc. Michael J. Wiesemann, Cpl. Joshua S. 
Wilfong, Sgt. Eugene Williams, Lance Cpl. Michael J. Williams, 
Spc. Michael L. Williams, Sgt. Taft V. Williams, 1st Lt. Charles 
L. Wilkins III, Sgt. 1st Class Christopher R. Willoughby, Spc. 
Dana N. Wilson, Command Sgt. Maj. Jerry L. Wilson, Staff Sgt. 
Joe N. Wilson, Lance Cpl. Lamont N. Wilson, Lance Cpl. Nicholas 
Wilt, 1st Lt. Ronald Winchester, Spc. Trevor A. Wine, Lance Cpl. 
William J. Wiscowiche, Spc. Robert A. Wise, Spc. Michelle M. 
Witmer, Pfc. Owen D. Witt, Spc. James R. Wolf, 2nd Lt. Jeremy L. 
Wolfe, Sgt. Elijah Tai Wah Wong, Sgt. Brian M. Wood, Capt. 
George A. Wood, Spc. Michael R. Woodliff, Spc. James C. Wright, 
Pfc. Jason G. Wright, 2nd Lt. John T. Wroblewski, Lance Cpl. 
Daniel R. Wyatt, Pfc. Stephen E. Wyatt, Sgt. Michael E. 
Yashinski, Sgt. Henry Ybarra III, Pfc. Rodricka A. Youmans, Sgt. 
Ryan C. Young, Lance Cpl. Andrew J. Zabierek, Spc. Nicholas J. 
Zangara, Spc. Mark Anthony Zapata, Pfc. Nicholaus E. Zimmer, 
Cpl. Ian T. Zook, Lance Cpl. Robert P. Zurheide Jr. 

May they rest in peace.

And may they forgive us someday.

-- Michael Moore

 
 
  
  
 
        
 


 

From: Noam the Presidential Bone
To: yanky cunts everywhere
Subject: No Surrender
Date: Fri Nov 5 00:45:40 2004

Message:
No Surrender
By PAUL KRUGMAN
 http://www.robert-fisk.com
President Bush isn't a conservative. He's a radical - the leader 
of a coalition that deeply dislikes America as it is. Part of 
that coalition wants to tear down the legacy of Franklin 
Roosevelt, eviscerating Social Security and, eventually, 
Medicare. Another part wants to break down the barriers between 
church and state. And thanks to a heavy turnout by evangelical 
Christians, Mr. Bush has four more years to advance that radical 
agenda.

Democrats are now, understandably, engaged in self-examination. 
But while it's O.K. to think things over, those who abhor the 
direction Mr. Bush is taking the country must maintain their 
intensity; they must not succumb to defeatism.

This election did not prove the Republicans unbeatable. Mr. Bush 
did not win in a landslide. Without the fading but still potent 
aura of 9/11, when the nation was ready to rally around any 
leader, he wouldn't have won at all. And future events will 
almost surely offer opportunities for a Democratic comeback.

I don't hope for more and worse scandals and failures during Mr. 
Bush's second term, but I do expect them. The resurgence of Al 
Qaeda, the debacle in Iraq, the explosion of the budget deficit 
and the failure to create jobs weren't things that just happened 
to occur on Mr. Bush's watch. They were the consequences of bad 
policies made by people who let ideology trump reality.

Those people still have Mr. Bush's ear, and his election victory 
will only give them the confidence to make even bigger mistakes.

So what should the Democrats do?

One faction of the party is already calling for the Democrats to 
blur the differences between themselves and the Republicans. Or 
at least that's what I think Al From of the Democratic 
Leadership Council means when he says, "We've got to close the 
cultural gap." But that's a losing proposition.

Yes, Democrats need to make it clear that they support personal 
virtue, that they value fidelity, responsibility, honesty and 
faith. This shouldn't be a hard case to make: Democrats are as 
likely as Republicans to be faithful spouses and good parents, 
and Republicans are as likely as Democrats to be adulterers, 
gamblers or drug abusers. Massachusetts has the lowest divorce 
rate in the country; blue states, on average, have lower rates 
of out-of-wedlock births than red states.

But Democrats are not going to get the support of people whose 
votes are motivated, above all, by their opposition to abortion 
and gay rights (and, in the background, opposition to minority 
rights). All they will do if they try to cater to intolerance is 
alienate their own base.

Does this mean that the Democrats are condemned to permanent 
minority status? No. The religious right - not to be confused 
with religious Americans in general - isn't a majority, or even 
a dominant minority. It's just one bloc of voters, whom the 
Republican Party has learned to mobilize with wedge issues like 
this year's polarizing debate over gay marriage.

Rather than catering to voters who will never support them, the 
Democrats - who are doing pretty well at getting the votes of 
moderates and independents - need to become equally effective at 
mobilizing their own base.

In fact, they have made good strides, showing much more unity 
and intensity than anyone thought possible a year ago. But for 
the lingering aura of 9/11, they would have won.

What they need to do now is develop a political program aimed at 
maintaining and increasing the intensity. That means setting 
some realistic but critical goals for the next year.

Democrats shouldn't cave in to Mr. Bush when he tries to appoint 
highly partisan judges - even when the effort to block a bad 
appointment fails, it will show supporters that the party stands 
for something. They should gear up for a bid to retake the 
Senate or at least make a major dent in the Republican lead. 
They should keep the pressure on Mr. Bush when he makes terrible 
policy decisions, which he will.

It's all right to take a few weeks to think it over. (Heads up 
to readers: I'll be starting a long-planned break next week, to 
work on a economics textbook. I'll be back in January.) But 
Democrats mustn't give up the fight. What's at stake isn't just 
the fate of their party, but the fate of America as we know it. 


E-mail: krugman@nytimes.com

http://www.robert-fisk.com

From: Noam The Appreciating Bone
To: loser yanks who eat fried cheese with their cokes and watch their partners explode with MORBID OBESITY and fire guns at their filthy CUNTS
Subject: Dollar falls to nine-year lows - fall even further in buSShy's term he hee he:D
Date: Fri Nov 5 00:33:45 2004

Message:
Siberia is for the Eskimos!!!... Russians out now!!

Migrations of people have occurred all throughout history. Being 
somewhere first doesn't entitle you to squat.
Dollar falls to nine-year lows - fall even further in buSShy's 
term he hee he:D 
Dollar falls to nine-year lows
By Steve Johnson and Kevin Morrison in London and Jennifer 
Hughes in New York 
Published: November 4 2004 18:19 | Last updated: November 4 2004 
18:19

The dollar fell to fresh nine-year lows in trade-weighted terms 
on Thursday and gold prices reached a 16-year peak amid concerns 
over tensions in the Middle East and a renewed belief in the 
dollar's longer-term decline. 


Traders said reports of Yassir Arafat's continuing ill-health 
were weighing on the dollar.  This spells trouble for the dollar 
since it could mean protracted US involvement in the region, not 
just Iraq,  said Kamal Sharma, currencies strategist at Dresdner 
Kleinwort Wasserstein.

Middle Eastern investors, including central banks, have been 
active in the market selling dollars over the past two days, 
according to traders. There has been speculation for some time 
that investors in the region would seek to diversify their 
largely dollar-based wealth as the greenback weakened.

 People are not just looking at simply the next few months for 
the dollar, they're looking more broadly at a decline over the 
next few years,  said Tony Norfield, global head of currency 
strategy at ABN Amro.

The greenback's weakness was also attributed to the re-election 
of President George W. Bush. Since the start of Mr Bush's first 
term the dollar has fallen 20.8 per cent in trade-weighted terms 
and observers do not expect a change in dollar policy in his 
second term. 

 Dollar sentiment is dire at the moment,  said Derek Halpenny, 
senior currency economist at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi.  Bush has 
been given an extremely strong mandate and that raises doubts 
about his commitment to reduce the budget deficit by half over a 
five-year period. 

Thursday's selling saw the dollar fall to $1.2886, within 0.4 
cents of its February all-time low against the euro. It declined 
to an eight-year low of SFr1.1854 against the Swiss franc, a 12-
year low of C$1.2034 against the Canadian dollar and to within a 
whisker of a six-month low against the yen.

Gold hit a 16-year high of $432.95 a troy ounce, before settling 
at $429.65/$430.40 in late London trade.

The dollar's decline against the euro was hastened by Jean-
Claude Trichet, the president of the European Central Bank, who 
emphasised the risk of inflation at a press conference but 
declined to say that the euro's strength of the euro was hurting 
the eurozone. 
 

From:
To: Noam the green toothed Socialist Limey CuntBONE
Date: Thu Nov 4 06:55:39 2004

Message:
your obsession with the mighty U.S.A. is hilarious ;-)

now, make a fucking dentist appointment so you can get those 
rotting, stinking, ugly fucking mouth-rocks you call teeth fixed 
mate --- 6 months from now the dentist will see you.

From: Noam The Civil Warring Bone
To: fucking braindead filthy fat yanky CUNTS
Subject: Civil War in America-- and the Weapons to be Used to fight it.
Date: Thu Nov 4 03:13:20 2004

Message:
Civil War in America-- and the Weapons to be Used to fight it.

by Rob Kall

OpEdNews.com

George Stephanopolous says there will be a civil war within the 
democratic party between progressives and centrists. But why 
stop there. If, after the final courtroom conflict, George W. 
Bush is declared the winner of this election, it will be based 
on over  45 million mostly un-recountable votes on election 
machines owned and operated by republicans, transnational 
corporations and foreign corporations. There is no reason why we 
should treat this election as fair, no reason to assume that it 
was honest. Already, over 600 reports of voting machine problems 
have been reported.

An LA Times article reports that "voters in Georgia, Texas, New 
Mexico and Florida reported that they tried to select one 
candidate, but the computers   made by a range of manufacturers  
 selected the challenger."

Going into the election, all the newscasters reported that Ohio 
could be the next Florida and that Florida was on the way to 
being a repeat performance-- a mess with plenty of problems.

There are also enough other close-call states that were decided 
primarily by electronic voting machines that I don't trust. I 
don't trust the machines to be safe from tampering, from 
manipulation, from lost votes and miscounts. For me that makes 
the integrity of this election totally unacceptable. Why is it 
that way? Simple. Because the Republicans wanted it that way. 
They had legislation in both the house and senate to require 
paper ballots that would have massively reduced the risk of the 
above abuses and risks and they chose not to enact that 
legislation. Now we have a president who has been elected on a 
sham-- with machines that are totally un-trustworthy in my 
opinion.

The way they sell electronic voting machines is they are 
supposed to reduce voter error. That could be true. The same 
could be said if we compared handwriting deposit and withdrawal 
slips from a bank and using automatic teller machines. But 
there's this one huge difference. We get a RECEIPT when we use 
ATMs. The damned machines are often made by the same companies 
that make the electronic voting machines. This should be a no-
brainer. It's almost like they intentionally pull the printers 
out of the voting machines. Shame on the Republicans for 
allowing this to happen.

This was set up to be a bogus election and I don't buy it. There 
was never an intention to allow an honest election. I 
participated in the process this year, serving as a poll 
watcher. We use mechanical machines in our district. They may 
have some problems, but they are not susceptible to tampering by 
modem and they are not susceptible to pre-programmed 
modifications in the vote count-- both flaws in the electronic 
voting systems that cannot be checked or tested without paper 
back-up.

Kerry better not concede this election until every stone is 
unturned checking for potential corruption of the vote.

Now let's talk about that civil war. Stephanopolous says that 
the democratic party will divide along lines supporting Howard 
Dean and those of the more centrist politicians. He suggests 
that Howard Dean will start looking at running for president in 
three years. I wonder if this is his wish for the democrats-- to 
break up and divide, to further lose power and strength. The 
gerrymandering done in Texas has further weakened the Democrats' 
strength in the house of representatives. But the same flaws in 
the electronic voting systems put the senate and congressional 
races in doubt too, particularly the closest ones. Why trust a 
voting system that relies in faith in a flawed technology? Why 
trust the elections of any state that uses electronic voting 
without paper back-up?

Let's not forget how close this race is. the way it's going, a 
projected 115-120 million people will have voted, and that means 
that 55 million Americans clearly voted and had their votes 
counted against George W. Bush. But it could be millions more, 
since all it takes is manipulations of a few votes each in the 
tens of thousands of electronic voting machines used in this 
election. With over 45 million ballots cast on electronic 
machines, a difference in the counts of just a few percentage 
points could change everything.

There is no way I can just sit and accept the outcome of this 
election. It is tainted and it was meant to be tainted by the 
Republican majority in congress. If Bush is declared president, 
it will be a dirty win, as so many of us expected.

This is a bitter article, made more bitter because a few honest 
legislators could have prevented this situation. There is talk 
in the mainstream corporate media of hopes that the nation will 
come together. Right winger George Will calls Michael Moore and 
his supporters shrill. Screw you George. You want shrill, then 
wait until you see how 55 million ripped off Americans act now 
that they've been politically energized and activated. You think 
the Sinclair boycott was something. Well you haven't seen 
anything yet.

The civil war Stephanopolous talked about will not be just 
between democrats. It will be between the red and blue states, 
between the 55+ million who voted for Kerry (and Nader) and the 
undetermined number of voters who supported Bush.

Me personally, I'm going to look at the final stats on the 
elections, state-by-state and I plan to boycott the states that 
were most solidly for Bush, to boycott the states that send the 
most toxic legislators to congress and the states that are most 
clearly corrupt when it comes to the vote.  So I won't be going 
to Wyoming or Florida or Ohio. I can live without all of them.

More importantly, I will be living a new "boycott" lifestyle, 
taking a list of brands with me to the supermarket, to the 
convenience store, department store and mall, to makes sure I 
don't support companies that solely sponsor right wing media.

I will do all I can to fight for the healing of  the American 
media, since I believe that the loss of media ownership 
diversity has drastically damaged the democratic process here in 
the US. It is unlikely that the disease that has led to loss of 
media ownership diversity will be cured if Bush's election theft 
is upheld. But there are other things we can do to force the 
corporations to do business with liberal and progressive media. 
We must band together as we did to take on Sinclair 
Broadcasting. We DO have the power to make major inroads.

We must demand that every vote that is counted can be recounted. 
Not another single election should be held in this country that 
fails to meet that test. This is an issue that should bring out 
protests bigger than any antiwar protest. They should be 
peaceful, but they should be massive. I am angry about the 
failure of the congress to pass laws to make elections 
trustworthy. As was said in the classic movie, Network, I'm mad 
as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore."

America used to be a shining example for the rest of the world. 
Now, it is an embarrassment. A senile democracy that is 
doddering along, barely providing health care good enough to 
keep our statistics from comparing with third world nations. Our 
balance of trade puts us at such risk, that if our creditors 
decided to call in their loans, we'd be in huge trouble.

And who do we have to blame for this? As Michael Moore put it, 
Stupid White Men. If we went by the women's vote, Kerry would 
have been elected by a landslide. But we can narrow down those 
stats a bit further. Bush's biggest supporters are white 
Protestants, Episcopalians, fundamentalist Christians, orthodox 
Jews and a bit more than half the Catholics. The Bush election 
team used the churches to get elected. In thousands of these 
churches, ministers, reverends, preachers, rabbis and 
congregation leaders encouraged their flocks to vote for Bush. 
Most didn't use his name, but they winked their eyes and used 
codes that clearly sent the message.

The message was that Bush was the more moral president and 
republicans are the more moral party. What a crock of shit. We 
can do better at turning this around. We must no longer allow 
right wing liar, crooks and flim flam artists to masquerade as 
the good guys.

Not all of these stupid white men were persuaded by their 
religious leaders. Some were brainwashed for Bush by right wing 
talk radio and Fox News.  We on the left are making progress 
developing a counter to the far right's media. It is imperative 
that we continue to support and nurture the left wing media-- 
internet sites, progressive talk radio and we must demand that 
sponsors that give money to the right wing media start funding 
programming, stations and networks that support the other 55 
million plus Americans.

Yes George Stephanopolous, there will be a civil war in this 
country. It will be fought, for now, in the marketplace. The 55 
million plus Americans who voted for John Kerry are more 
organized and energized than ever before. We will not take this 
corrupt election sitting down. We will do whatever it takes to 
make US elections honest and trustworthy, whatever it takes. The 
US and the rest of the world deserve no less.

Rob Kall is editor of www.OpEdNews.com Read over 150 of his 
articles at Rob Kall's article archive  Read his blog at 
www.opednews.com/robsblog.htm Rob lives in Bucks County PA, 
which, went for John Kerry in the 2004 election.


From: noam the bone
To: yanks who voted buSSh in
Subject: Iraq Gunmen Seize Second American in Week
Date: Thu Nov 4 02:39:30 2004

Message:
Iraq Gunmen Seize Second American in Week 

Wed Nov 3,11:12 PM ET   Middle East - AP 
 

By ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writer 

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Gunmen kidnapped a Lebanese-American 
businessman   the second U.S. citizen seized this week in 
Baghdad   and videotape Wednesday showed the beheadings of three 
Iraqi National Guardsmen and an Iraqi officer. 

Elsewhere, a U.S. soldier was killed and another wounded in a 
roadside bombing 12 miles south of the capital. A suicide driver 
detonated his vehicle at a checkpoint near Baghdad airport, 
injuring nine Iraqis and prompting U.S. troops to close the main 
route into the city for hours. 


U.S. jets were in action again late Wednesday over Fallujah, 
striking insurgent targets in the northeastern and southern 
parts of the city where American forces are said to be gearing 
up for a major assault. Residents reported fierce exchanges of 
fire after midnight on the edge of the city. 


Gunmen killed a senior Oil Ministry official, Hussein Ali al-
Fattal, after he left his house Wednesday in the Yarmouk 
district of western Baghdad, police said. Al-Fattal was the 
general manager of a state-owned company that distributes 
petroleum byproducts. 


Al-Jazeera television broadcast a threat by an unspecified armed 
group to strike oil installations and government buildings if 
the Americans launch an all-out assault on Fallujah. The report 
was accompanied by a videotape showing about 20 armed men 
brandishing various weapons including a truck-mounted machine 
gun. 


The violence served as grim reminder of Iraq (news - web 
sites)'s rapidly deteriorating security situation, which 
President Bush (news - web sites) must address now that he has 
won his long electoral contest against Sen. John Kerry (news - 
web sites), who conceded defeat Wednesday. 
Radim Sadeq, an American of Lebanese origin who worked for a 
mobile phone company, was grabbed about midnight Tuesday when he 
answered the door of his home in Baghdad's upscale Mansour 
neighborhood, officials said. No group claimed responsibility. 


It was the second abduction this week in Mansour, where many 
foreign companies are based. On Monday, gunmen stormed the two-
story compound of a Saudi company, abducting six people, 
including an unidentified American, a Nepalese, a Filipino and 
three Iraqis, two of whom were later released. No claim has been 
made for the kidnappings. 


More than 170 foreigners have been kidnapped and more than 30 of 
them killed in Iraq since Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s 
regime fell in April last year. At least six of the foreigners 
were beheaded by followers of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian 
militant who has sworn allegiance to al-Qaida. 


As the wave of abductions continues, another militant group, the 
Ansar al-Sunnah Army, posted a videotape on a Web site Wednesday 
showing the beheading of man it said was an Iraqi army major 
captured in the northern city of Mosul. 


A statement by the group called Maj. Hussein Shanoun 
an "apostate" and said he confessed to taking part in attacks 
against insurgents on orders of the Americans. 


Just before his death, the victim was shown warning Iraqi 
soldiers and police against "dealing with the infidel troops," 
meaning the Americans. 


In another video, aired Wednesday on Al-Jazeera, a previously 
unknown group calling itself the Brigades of Iraq's Honorables 
said it beheaded three Iraqi National Guardsmen, accusing them 
of spying for the Americans. 


The broadcast showed three men holding up what appeared to be 
army identification cards sitting in front of a hooded man who 
read a statement. The video also showed the beheading of the 
three men, but the network declined to air that part of the 
tape, the Al-Jazeera newscaster said. 


In Jordan, a government spokeswoman said four Jordanian drivers 
were kidnapped in Iraq and two others were shot at by unknown 
assailants. The spokeswoman, Asma Khader, gave no details of the 
abductions but said two other Jordanians came under fire in the 
Ramadi area in central Iraq   a stronghold of Sunni Muslim 
militants. 


Insurgents have stepped up attacks on Iraq's U.S.-trained 
security forces, who the Americans hope will assume greater 
responsibility to enable Washington to begin drawing down its 
forces   now at their highest levels since the summer of 2003. 


More than 85 percent of the estimated 165,700 multinational 
troops here are Americans, despite U.S. efforts to encourage 
other countries to share the burden of securing and rebuilding 
Iraq. 

   



On Wednesday, Hungary's prime minister said the country would 
withdraw its 300 non-combat troops by the end of March. Hungary 
had agreed to extend their deployment from an original deadline 
of Dec. 31 so they could help maintain security during elections 
in January. 

Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany said a further extension after 
the election would be "impossible." 

Elsewhere, attackers fired a mortar round Wednesday at an Iraqi 
National Guard checkpoint in Najaf's old city, injuring two 
soldiers, Lt. Haidar Hussein said. It was the first such attack 
in the center of the Shiite holy city since a peace agreement 
last August ended weeks of fighting between U.S. troops and 
Shiite militiamen. 

In Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad, residents said U.S. 
soldiers clashed with gunmen Wednesday in the city center. Four 
Iraqis were killed and two injured, said Ahmed Jadour of the 
Samarra General Hospital. 

A statement distributed Wednesday in Samarra warned Iraqis 
against turning in weapons to the Americans. 

"The occupier is thinking of a new way to corrupt the morals of 
the honorable Muslims by paying huge sums of money to buy 
weapons that are not worth anything compared to his destructive 
weapons," the statement said. "We will not allow any person who 
helps the infidels and turns over his weapons to the enemy to 
live among honorable people." 

To the west of the capital, U.S. forces are preparing for a 
major offensive against Fallujah and other Sunni militant 
strongholds in hopes of curbing the insurgency ahead of 
January's election. 

The late night attacks on Fallujah followed air raids earlier in 
the day that struck an insurgent command post; a weapons cache 
site in the city was destroyed late Tuesday, the U.S. military 
said.

From: Noam The Well-Oiled Bone
To: oil-hungry morbidly obese, geographically challeneged yanky CUNTS out there!;)
Subject: Sabotage threatens weakened oil supplies
Date: Tue Nov 2 23:17:44 2004

Message:
Sabotage threatens weakened oil supplies
Saboteurs have mounted the biggest attacks yet on Iraq's oil 
infrastructure, blowing up three pipelines in the north and 
hitting exports via Turkey, oil officials said. 
www.osamabinladeniswinning.com
The attacks, which were hours apart, sharply reduced crude oil 
supplies to Iraq's biggest refinery at Baiji. The Government is 
already struggling to build up stocks of refined oil products 
ahead of winter. 

Sabotage against oil facilities in north and central Iraq has 
intensified in the past few weeks as US forces attacked Sunni 
Muslim cities where insurgents have support. Imports of refined 
products have been also disrupted. 

The first pipeline attack on Monday night destroyed a section of 
the Iraq-Turkey export pipeline in the Riyadh area, 65 km south-
west of the oil producing centre of Kirkuk, officials at the 
state North Oil Company said. 

It was followed by two further attacks, including one in the 
Qoshqaya region north-west of the city on a pipeline connected 
to the Bai Hassam oilfield and feeding the main export pipeline, 
officials said. 

Reuters Television footage showed huge blazes with no fire crews 
to be seen. 
www.osamabinladeniswinning.com
"We cut off all flows for now. The Qoshqaya fire is covering 
around one square kilometre. The export pipeline fire is also 
big," one official said. 

"Technically, the system was shut down." 

Exports via turkey hit

Iraq has been exporting some 300,000 barrels per day (bpd) in 
recent days via the pipeline to the Turkish Mediterranean port 
of Ceyhan, mainly from the Kirkuk oilfields in the north. 

Shipping sources in Turkey told Reuters some crude still 
appeared to be flowing to Ceyhan, albeit at a reduced rate. 

The oil is likely coming from smaller fields further north of 
the blast via the pumping station at Tikrit but it is unclear 
how long this can be sustained. 

"The pumping has been sort of sporadic in the past week. It is 
down to about 140,000 bpd today," one shipper said. 

But the sources said about 3.5 million barrels of Kirkuk crude 
are lying in storage tanks at Ceyhan, meaning tanker loadings 
can continue on schedule. 
www.osamabinladeniswinning.com
ExxonMobil's Framura tanker was due to lift 700,000 barrels 
later on Tuesday, shippers said. 

The Kirkuk region produces 600,000-700,000 bpd out of the 
country's output of 2.6 million bpd. Exports were continuing 
normally via the southern Basra terminal. 
www.osamabinladeniswinning.com
Oil officials said relentless sabotage since the war has cost 
the treasury billions of dollars in lost revenue. 

From: Noam The Soothsaying BOne
To: Listen here you fucking big fat black cunt we told you that ages ago!!!! fucking open your ears not your colon Colin!!!! Grrrr.
Subject: Colin Powell Believes U.S. is Losing Iraq war
Date: Tue Nov 2 03:29:40 2004

Message:
Colin Powell Believes U.S. is Losing Iraq war 
Salon.com 
http://www.humiliateamerica.com
Sunday 31 October 2004 
http://www.humiliateamerica.com
Secretary of State Colin Powell has privately confided to 
friends in recent weeks that the Iraqi insurgents are winning 
the war, according to Newsweek. The insurgents have succeeded in 
infiltrating Iraqi forces "from top to bottom," a senior Iraqi 
official tells Newsweek in tomorrow s issue of the 
magazine, "from decision making to the lower levels." 

This is a particularly troubling development for the U.S. 
military, as it prepares to launch an all-out assault on the 
insurgent strongholds of Fallujah and Ramadi, since U.S. Marines 
were counting on the newly trained Iraqi forces to assist in the 
assault. Newsweek reports that "American military trainers have 
been frantically trying to assemble sufficient Iraqi troops" to 
fight alongside them and that they are "praying that the 
soldiers perform better than last April, when two battalions of 
poorly trained Iraqi Army soldiers refused to fight." 
http://www.humiliateamerica.com
If the Fallujah offensive fails, Newsweek grimly predicts, "then 
the American president will find himself in a deepening quagmire 
on Inauguration Day." 

http://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.comhtt
p://www.humiliateamerica.comhttp://www.humiliateamerica.com

From: Noam The Frugal Bone
To: U.S. has $400 billion Defense Budget. HA HA
Subject: GIs Lack Armor, Radios, Bullets
Date: Tue Nov 2 03:18:47 2004

Message:
GIs Lack Armor, Radios, Bullets 
    CBS News 

    Sunday 31 October 2004 

U.S. has $400 billion Defense Budget.
    Two weeks ago, a group of Army reservists in Iraq refused a 
direct order to go on a dangerous operation to re-supply another 
unit with jet fuel. 

    Without helicopter gunships to escort them over a 
treacherous stretch of highway, and lacking armored vehicles, 
soldiers from the 343rd Quartermaster Company called it a 
suicide mission. 

    The Army called it an isolated incident, a temporary 
breakdown in discipline, and an investigation is underway. 

    But the 343rd isn't the first outfit to be put in harm's way 
without proper equipment, and commanders in Iraq acknowledged 
that the unit's concerns were legitimate, even if their mutiny 
was not. 

    With a $400 billion defense budget you might think U.S. 
troops have everything they need to fight the war, but that's 
not always the case. 

    Correspondent Steve Kroft talks to a general, soldiers in 
Iraq, and their families at home about a lack of armored 
vehicles, field radios, night vision goggles, and even 
ammunition - especially for the National Guard and reserve units 
that now make up more than 40 percent of U.S. troops. 

    In this report, Kroft also talks to Sen. John McCain about 
how pork-barrel politics have shortchanged troops on the ground. 

    Every couple of weeks Karen Preston gets a telephone call 
from her son Ryan who is serving in Iraq with the Oregon 
National Guard. 

    But Karen Preston has been worrying a lot ever since last 
summer when Ryan returned home on leave and showed her these 
photos of the unarmored vehicles his unit was using for convoy 
duty in Iraq. 

    Lacking the proper steel plating to protect soldiers from 
enemy mines and rocket propelled grenades, they had been jerry-
rigged with plywood and sandbags. 

    "They were called cardboard coffins," Preston says. 

    There have been more than 9,000 U.S. casualties in Iraq so 
far - more than 8,100 wounded and 1,100 killed. Nearly half of 
those casualties are the result of roadside bombs, known as 
improvised explosive devices or IEDs in military jargon. Yet the 
U.S. military still lacks thousands of fully armored vehicles 
that could save American lives. 

    Specialist Ronald Pepin, who serves in Baghdad with the New 
York National Guard, says, "They have no ground plating. So if 
you hit something underneath you, then it's going to kill the 
whole crew, you know? And that's just something you have to live 
with." 

    Staff Sgt. Sean Davis from the Oregon National Guard was 
critically wounded last June when his unarmored Humvee hit an 
IED outside of Baghdad. He suffered shrapnel wounds, burns, and 
was unable to walk for six weeks. 

    Davis said his Humvee was armored with plywood, sandbags, 
and armor salvaged from old Iraqi tanks. 

    He considers himself lucky that he wasn't killed in the 
blast. His friend and fellow guardsman Eric McKinley, who was 
riding in the same vehicle, wasn't so fortunate. The 24-year-old 
Army specialist died of his wounds. His father Tom said his son 
was supposed to have been discharged from the Oregon National 
Guard a few months before his death, but was held over because 
of the war. 

    McKinley says his son would have stood a lot better chance 
of surviving had his vehicle been fully armored. 

    "Our troops need to be protected over there to the best 
ability that we can protect them and it's not being done," he 
says. 

    The Department of Defense denied a 60 Minutes request for an 
on-camera interview to explain the situation. But responding to 
a written question about vehicles traveling dangerous routes in 
Iraq being armored with plywood and sandbags, the Army told 
us, "As long as the Army has a single vehicle without armor, we 
expect that our soldiers will continue to find ways to increase 
their level of protection." 

    60 Minutes went to a man more familiar with the problems 
facing the Oregon National Guard than anyone else - its 
commanding general, Ray Byrne. General Byrne was somewhat 
reluctant to talk when 60 Minutes showed him pictures of his 
men's Humvees and trucks, armored with plywood and sandbags. 

    "If you have nothing then that's better than nothing. The 
question becomes then again when - when are they going to 
receive the full up armored Humvees? And I don't have that 
answer," says Gen. Byrne. 

    "It distresses me greatly that they do not have the 
equipment. I don't have control over it. The soldiers don't have 
control over it. The question becomes, 'When is it going to be 
available? When is it going to be available? When will they have 
it?'" 

    There are still no good answers to those questions. Most of 
the vehicles in Iraq arrived there without armor plating, 
because the Pentagon war planners didn't anticipate a long, 
bloody insurgency. 

    But 18 months after President Bush declared an end of major 
combat, the Pentagon is still struggling to provide the 
equipment needed to fight the war. 

    Oregon Congresswoman Darlene Hooley, a Democrat whose 
district includes Gen. Byrne's National Guard, complained to the 
secretary of defense. She says she thinks the vehicles are not 
fully armored yet because military planners didn't anticipate an 
insurgency. 

    "We didn't have enough armored vehicles," she says. "They 
weren't manufactured." 

    Congress has appropriated additional money for armored 
trucks and Humvees, over $800 million in the current defense 
bill. 

    The Army told 60 Minutes they will have produced 8,100 fully-
armored Humvees by March. 

    However, production is lagging behind the urgent need, and 
the Pentagon's interim solution is shipping so-called "add-on 
armor" kits to Iraq, where they are being bolted on to thousands 
of vehicles. 

    But most of those add-ons don't protect the bottom of the 
vehicle, leaving them vulnerable to an explosive device. 

    And it isn't the only equipment problem facing soldiers in 
Iraq. 

    Oregon guardsman Sean Davis told us that his unit was short 
ammunition and night vision goggles, and lacked radios to 
communicate with each other. 

    He says guardsman were using walkie-talkies that they or 
their families purchased from a sporting goods or similar 
store. "And anybody can pick up those signals, you know," he 
says. "And we don't have the radios that we need." 

    Gen. Byrne says stories about families in Oregon having to 
go out and buy for their sons and daughters radio equipment, 
body armor, GPS gear, computers and night vision goggles because 
they weren't being issued are true. 

    He said some Guard units are also using Vietnam era M-16 
assault rifles, which he calls adequate for state duty but not 
acceptable for duty in Iraq. There is also a bullet shortage for 
training, he says. 

    It bothers him, but "there's nothing I can do about it," he 
says. 

    "If I was making the decisions, I would readjust," he 
says. "The soldier on the ground should be a focus. When that's 
taken care of you can take care of other stuff." 

    The Army acknowledged to 60 Minutes that there is a shortage 
of radios in Iraq and a shortage of bullets for training, and 
says both are in the process of being remedied. There have also 
been problems with maintenance and replacement parts for 
critical equipment like Abrams tanks, Bradley personnel carriers 
and Black Hawk helicopters. 

    Winslow Wheeler, a long time Capitol Hill staffer who spent 
years writing and reviewing defense appropriations bills, thinks 
he knows one reason why those shortages exist, after looking at 
the current Defense budget. Army accounts that pay for training, 
maintenance and repairs are being raided by Congress to pay for 
pork-barrel spending. 

    Wheeler says $2.8 billion that was earmarked for operations 
and maintenance to support U.S. troops has been used to "pay the 
pork bill." 

    Wheeler, who has written a book called "The Wastrels of 
Defense," says congressmen routinely hide billions of dollars in 
pet projects in the defense bill. 

    And buried in the back of this one, Wheeler found a biathlon 
jogging track in Alaska, a brown tree snake eradication program 
in Hawaii, a parade ground maintenance contract for a military 
base that closed years ago, and money for the Lewis and Clark 
Bicentennial celebration. 

    By law, these projects can't be cut, so Pentagon bookkeepers 
will have to dip into operations and maintenance accounts to pay 
for them. 

    "They do all kinds of things that adds up to: 'We're 
basically eating our own young to support the war,'" he says. 

    According to Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a member of the 
Armed Services Committee who speaks out against pork-barrel 
spending, there is a total of $8.9 billion of pork in this 
year's defense bill, which would go a long way toward upgrading 
all the equipment used by the National Guard. 

    "I don't think that this war has truly come home to the 
Congress of the United States," McCain says. "This is the first 
time in history that we've cut taxes during a war. So I think 
that a lot of members of Congress feel that this is just sort of 
a business-as-usual situation." 

    "The least sexy items are the mundane - food, repair items, 
maintenance - there's no big contract there," says McCain. "And 
so there's a tendency that those mundane but vital aspects of 
war fighting are cut and routinely underfunded." 

    It is not a comforting thought for families with loved ones 
in Iraq, who lack armored vehicles, radios or things they need 
to stay alive. It's on Karen Preston's mind every time she talks 
to her son. 

    "He's very pro-military, as am I," she says. "I just want 
them to have the best equipment." 

    Some armored vehicles have now been shipped to her son's 
unit, but without protection on the bottom of the vehicle, an 
insurgent's explosive is just as deadly. 

    Specialist Pepin on the New York Guard says, "It's kind of 
like an act of faith. When you get in your vehicle, you just 
hope, you know. Say a little prayer before you go out." 

    This weekend, Acting Secretary of the Army Les Brownlee 
wrote to 60 Minutes saying, "The Army has made great strides in 
improving the capabilities of all units deploying to Iraq as the 
nature of the conflict has changed." He noted the president 
approved spending $840 million to improve the armor on Humvees 
in Iraq. 

  


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    What War Funding Could Buy 
    By David Lazarus 
    The San Francisco Chronicle 

    Sunday 31 October 2004 

    The Bush administration reportedly intends to seek about $70 
billion more for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. This would 
bring the total cost so far to almost $225 billion. 

    Has it been worth it? The White House sees the huge 
expenditure as a down payment on global freedom. Critics see the 
money as being flushed down a rat hole of unrealistic 
expectations and failed policy. 

    Just for fun, let's see what U.S. taxpayers could have 
bought instead for $225 billion. 

    With the economy treading water and investment in 
infrastructure lagging, the American Society of Civil Engineers 
estimates that three-quarters of the nation's 86,000 schools are 
inadequate due to aging facilities and overcrowded classrooms. 

    The Department of Education says it will cost $127 billion 
to bring all public schools into satisfactory condition. The 
National Education Association places the price tag at $268 
billion. 

    Clearly, though, most if not all of the country's schools 
could be improved for $225 billion. As it stands, a portion of 
that money is going toward construction and renovation of 
classrooms in Baghdad and Kabul. 

    "It's a misplaced sense of priorities," said Joel Packer, a 
lobbyist for the NEA in Washington. "What's needed is more 
teachers in this country and more space to put them in." 

    More teachers? The American Federation of Teachers says the 
average teacher salary in the United States last year was 
$45,771. The average starting pay for teachers was $30,496. 

    The unemployment rate may be at 5.4 percent, but with $225 
billion, nearly 738,000 new teachers could be hired and have 
their salaries (excluding benefits) covered for the next decade. 

    On the health care front, the Department of Health and Human 
Services estimates that demand for registered nurses will grow 
by 40 percent between 2002 and 2020. The supply of new nurses, 
however, will rise by just 6 percent during this period. 

    Carol Cooke, a spokeswoman for the American Nurses 
Association, said there just isn't enough money to train new 
nurses. 

    "We turned away 16,000 qualified applicants for the fall of 
2003 because we didn't have sufficient resources to educate 
people who want to go into nursing," she said. "We have 
struggled to obtain money to deal with the nursing shortage." 

    As of 2000, the latest year for which data is available, 
Cooke said the average U.S. nurse was paid $46,782. 

    With $225 billion to throw around, you could hire about 
475,000 nurses and cover their wages for the next 10 years - and 
still have a few billion to spare for training programs. 

    Similarly, the United States now has a record 45 million 
people lacking health insurance. Researchers at Harvard Medical 
School estimate it would cost about $1,500 per person to provide 
annual coverage to the uninsured. 

    With $225 billion, you could protect all uninsured Americans 
for at least a few years. Or you could lay the groundwork for a 
so-called single-payer system that would guarantee health care 
for every U.S. citizen. 

    What else? The Department of Transportation says an average 
of $59 billion needs to be invested annually over the next five 
years to remedy the crumbling condition of roads and bridges 
nationwide. 

    That $225 billion now going in part to fixing roads and 
bridges in Iraq and Afghanistan would get us almost the whole 
way there. 

    It would also address the $52 billion in annual vehicle 
repairs that U.S. drivers are saddled with as a result of 
driving on poorly maintained roads, according to the Road 
Information Program, a Washington nonprofit organization 
focusing on transportation research. 

    It would probably also reduce the $69.5 billion in lost 
productivity and wasted fuel resulting from traffic congestion, 
according to the group's estimates. 

    Meanwhile, the federal government spent about $2.5 billion 
this year on programs to assist the homeless. Yet advocates say 
at least 150,000 people nationwide remain chronically homeless, 
living on the streets and funneling in and out of emergency 
rooms, psychiatric facilities and jails. 

    It would take just a fraction of the $225 billion being 
spent in Iraq and Afghanistan to end chronic homelessness in the 
United States. The key would be investing in so-called 
supportive housing, which gets people off the streets and 
provides the care they need. Carla Javits, president of the 
Corporation for Supportive Housing in Oakland, estimated it 
would cost almost $7 billion to construct enough residential 
space for the 150,000 chronically homeless. An additional $2 
billion or so would be needed annually to provide services. 

    The beauty of supportive housing, though, is that enormous 
savings can be achieved through reduced use of ERs and other 
public facilities. These savings in turn can be channeled into 
the program, significantly lowering annual costs. 

    As it stands, however, money that might otherwise go toward 
ending chronic homelessness in the United States is instead 
being spent in part on housing in other countries. 

    "National security has to include providing security to the 
poorest in this nation," Javits said. "Having a place to live is 
part of that." 

    A matter of priorities: Campaigning in New Hampshire on 
Friday, President Bush told supporters that strong leadership 
means "the president must make America's priorities absolutely 
clear, especially in our uncertain world." 

    It's your money. You have a say in how it's spent. 

    Vote on Tuesday. 

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From: Noam The Skeptical Bone
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Subject: Osama Bin Laden? Media Ignores Absence of Proof
Date: Tue Nov 2 03:13:11 2004

Message:
Osama Bin Laden? Media Ignores Absence of Proof

Christopher Bollyn| November 2 2004
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The mainstream media has presented the latest video of what is 
said to be Osama bin Laden as if there were no doubt or 
suspicions about WHO it is in the video. 

The only agency that claims to have checked the tape is the CIA, 
who is an active combatant in the "war on terror." That's like 
asking a boxer in the ring to referee the match he is in. 

I asked the CIA about the latest video of some bearded guy who 
they say is Osama bin Laden: An "intelligence official" at the 
CIA named Anja told me that the agency had done a "technical 
assessment" of the tape. What this "assessment" included, Anja 
wouldn't say. 

Asked if the assessment included voice verification technology, 
Anja would only say that the CIA "declined to be more specific." 

The CIA has "a high degree of confidence" that it is OBL, and 
the President has "full confidence" in the CIA's assessment, 
according to a deputy spokesman working at the National Security 
Advisor's (Condoleezza Rice) office at the White House. 

If the CIA actually used voice verification technology on the 
tape to determine that it was Osama bin Laden then why don't 
they tell us? Don't we deserve to know that the authenticity of 
the tape has been checked before it is presented to the American 
people as fact? 

Why does the Associated Press (see Sun-Times article below), 
report that "The Bush administration said it believes the 
videotape is authentic..?" 

I mean, don't these people know about voice verification 
technology? Or didn't they use it because they KNOW the tape is 
a hoax, because they made it? 

And why has the media parroted these claims without even 
mentioning that there is a reasonable doubt that the image and 
voice in the tape belong to Osama bin Laden? 

When I raised these questions with Michael Cooke, the British-
born Editor-in-Chief of the Chicago Sun-Times, one of the 10 
largest papers in the United States, he sounded like a typical 
Establishment gate-keeper/opinion-shaper: "I don't care," he 
said. "If it's a hoax then we've been hoaxed." 

Here is my follow-up note to Michael Cooke of the Sun-Times: 

TO: Michael Cooke, E-mail: mcooke@suntimes.com Editor-in-Chief, 
Chicago Sun-Times 

RE: Sun-Times Coverage of Purported Osama bin Laden Video 

DATE: November 1, 2004 

Dear Mr. Cooke, 

After speaking with you on the phone today, I am sending this 
note as a follow-up. 

I am a correspondent with American Free Press, based on Capitol 
Hill in Washington, D.C. 

The website for American Free Press is: 
http://www.americanfreepress.net/ 

I called you this afternoon to discuss how the Chicago Sun-Times 
presented the news about the latest videotape of what is said to 
be Osama bin Laden. Your headline on October 30, 2004 read: 
OSAMA MESSES WITH THE ELECTION 

In the Sun-Times coverage of this video there was no mention of 
any doubt that the image and voice were truly those of Osama bin 
Laden. You seemed unaware of voice verification technology, 
which is at least 10 years old and widely used in the United 
States. 

Halfway through the article by Maggie Michael [AP] in Cairo, 
Egypt, there is only one sentence that even addresses the 
authenticity of the video: "The Bush administration said it 
believes the videotape is authentic and that it was made 
recently, noting that bin Laden referred to 1,000 U.S. military 
deaths in Iraq which happened in early September." 

I asked you, in light of the admissions by the New York Times 
and the Washington Post that they had "failed the American 
public" by not adequately questioning the flawed case for war 
made by the U.S. and British governments, and the faulty 
intelligence of those governments, if the Chicago Sun-Times 
didn't owe it to its readers to raise the question and 
mentionthat there is absolutely no proof that the voice and 
image in the video actually belong to Osama bin Laden? 

"I don't care," you replied, adding, "If it's a hoax, we've been 
hoaxed. It has all the hallmarks of being Osama bin Laden." 

When I asked you about your statement, "I don't care," you said 
that you were referring to my questions. Does that mean that you 
don't care if the mainstream media and intelligence have been 
terribly wrong about the "war on terror" in the past? 

Are you saying it doesn't matter to you if your readers know 
that there is reasonable doubt that this is Osama bin Laden? 

You said that it looked like Osama bin Laden to you and the 
paper because it had the "hallmarks" of Osama bin Laden. When I 
asked you what those hallmarks were, the only hallmark you 
mentioned was that it had been on television. 

Lastly, you said that if I reported that you said, "I don't 
care," you'd come to Washington and "bite you on your ass." 

I hope you don't really mean that. I'm based in Chicago. 

Regards, 

Christopher Bollyn 

Michael Cooke, the British Editor in Chief of the Chicago Sun-
Times said that he thought the man in this video is Osama bin 
Laden, because it had "all the hallmarks of being Osama bin 
Laden." 

Asked what those "hallmarks" were, Cooke mentioned one: "It was 
on TV." 
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Then Cooke ran the headline: OSAMA MESSES WITH THE ELECTION, 
because he saw the video on TV. 
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How's that for controlled journalism in America?
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From: noam the blasting bone
To: all teh fuckijg filthy morbidly obese geographically challenges sexually repressed yanks out there who are absolute CUNTS
Subject: Blast hits Baghdad ministry building
Date: Tue Nov 2 03:08:30 2004

Message:
Blast hits Baghdad ministry building
A suspected car bomb has exploded outside the Education Ministry 
in central Baghdad, killing at least five people and wounding 
four, according to witnesses.

A witness from international news agency Reuters says the blast 
in the Adhamiya district badly damaged the ministry building and 
destroyed half a dozen vehicles.

Smoke poured from the building as firemen fought a blaze set off 
by the blast.

The bomb exploded in a side street close to a wall of the 
ministry building.
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Parents of children at a nearby girls' school raced to the scene 
in panic searching for their daughters. There were no reported 
casualties at the school.

-- Reuterswww.anus.com

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Subject: US soldier killed in Afghanistan
Date: Mon Nov 1 20:31:21 2004

Message:
US soldier killed in Afghanistan
An American soldier has been killed and two others wounded when 
their patrol was attacked by "enemy forces" in south-eastern 
Afghanistan, a US Army spokesman said. 

"It was an incident early this afternoon in Paktika province 
between a US patrol and enemy forces," Major Mark McCann said. 

"As a result, one US soldier was killed and two were wounded," 
he said, adding he had no further details on the incident. 

South-eastern Afghanistan, which borders Pakistan's restive 
tribal regions where forces have been hunting Al Qaeda and other 
militants, has been a hotspot for the US-led coalition fighting 
insurgents. 

-- AFP

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Subject: Eight US marines killed near Fallujah
Date: Mon Nov 1 20:31:21 2004

Message:
Eight US marines killed near Fallujah
Eight US marines were killed on Saturday in the bloodiest attack 
on American forces in Iraq in almost seven months as troops 
prepared for a major assault to capture the rebel towns of 
Ramadi and Fallujah. 
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Violence flared across Iraq ahead of the offensive, expected any 
day, and US planes and artillery pounded Fallujah in the 
country's Sunni Muslim heartland. 

Seven people were killed by a car bomb outside the Al Arabiya 
television office in Baghdad the Interior Ministry said, and 
seven Iraqis died in clashes with US troops in an area 
dubbed "the triangle of death" southwest of the capital. 
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The US military said the marines were killed in the restive 
western province of Anbar, which includes Fallujah and Ramadi, 
but gave no details. Nine marines were also wounded. 

Witnesses said earlier they had seen three US vehicles burning 
on a road east of Fallujah, in the same province. It was not 
clear if that was where the marine casualties occurred. 

The deaths bring to 858 the number of US troops killed in 
combat. The total number of US troop deaths, including accidents 
and other causes, is now almost 1,120. 

US marine commanders said on Friday they were preparing for a 
major assault on Fallujah and Ramadi. 

Their aim is to crush opposition fighters and root out Arab 
militants led by declared Al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al Zarqawi to 
enable Iraq's interim government to hold national elections in 
January. 

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At least a dozen air strikes hit southeastern Fallujah, 
witnesses said. US marine spokesman Lieutenant Lyle Gilbert said 
marines on the edge of Fallujah had come under mortar fire from 
insurgents and called in artillery support. 

He said it was the "most consistent and drawn out artillery 
barrage in recent days", but was not the start of the offensive. 

US marine commanders say they face a volatile mix of up to 2,000 
Iraqi and foreign fighters entrenched in the city. 

Some are thought to be former army officers loyal to Saddam 
Hussein, others Islamist militants led by Zarqawi, a Jordanian. 

As both sides prepare for the offensive, two Iraqi policemen 
died in clashes between insurgents and US troops. 

Zarqawi, America's top enemy in Iraq and with a $US25 million 
price on his head, has claimed some of the bloodiest violence in 
the country and the beheadings of foreign hostages. 

TV station attack

In Baghdad, the Interior Ministry said 19 people were also 
wounded in the blast outside the Al Arabiya office, in an up-
market neighbourhood. 

Television footage showed doctors stitching the bloodied face of 
one woman. 

The majority Saudi-owned satellite channel called the bombing 
the biggest attack on the media in Iraq. 

It has often been attacked on websites used by Islamist militant 
groups for its perceived pro-Western stance in the Arab world. 

A little-known Iraqi group said it carried out the attack. 

"Thank God, the building of the Arabic-speaking, Americanised 
spy journalists was destroyed," said the 1920 Battalions, in a 
statement posted on websites used by Iraqi militants. 

A recent Internet posting purportedly by Zarqawi's group also 
threatened Al Arabiya. 

Seven Iraqis were killed and 14 wounded in clashes between 
gunmen and US troops southwest of Baghdad, when gunmen attacked 
US soldiers raiding buildings. 

Reuters Television footage showed two civilian cars and a truck 
riddled with bullets, their seats stained with blood. 

Occupants said they had been caught in a crossfire. It was 
unclear how many of the casualties were gunmen and how many were 
civilians. Neither the US nor the British military, which 
deployed in the area this week, had information on the incident. 

Poll opposition

The interim government and its US backers are battling to 
restore peace to the country so Iraqis can elect a national 
assembly in January to draft a new constitution. 

But some insurgent groups fighting to drive out US-led forces 
oppose the polls. The election commission has received death 
threats signed by militants using the old name of Zarqawi's 
group. 

Typewritten letters in the name of the Tawhid wal Jihad (One God 
and Holy War) Assassinations Squad warned members of the 
commission would be killed, along with their families, if they 
stayed at their posts, spokesman Farid Ayar said. 

Militants have also kidnapped two more foreigners, a Somali 
truck driver and a Sudanese translator. 

Confusion surrounds the fate of Japanese backpacker Shosei Koda, 
abducted while travelling by bus on holiday, after medical 
checks found a beheaded body discovered on Friday was not his. 

At least 25 foreigners from a dozen countries, including two 
women, are thought to be in the hands of kidnappers trying to 
drive US-led forces and foreign workers from Iraq. 
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Scores of foreigners have been abducted since April. Many have 
been freed but more than 35 have been killed, several of them 
beheaded. 
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From: Noam the Base Bone
To: Oh thank you Mr bin Laden, you are our ONLY hope!! :') BIN LADES SPEAKS!!! he's soooo cool!:')
Subject: Bin Laden exploiting Western divisions - Oh thank you Mr bin Laden, you are our ONLY hope!! :') (http://www.robert-fisk.comhttp://www.robert-fisk.comhttp://www.robert-fisk.comhttp://www.robert-fisk.comhttp://www.robert-fisk.)
Date: Mon Nov 1 20:24:27 2004

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Bin Laden exploiting Western divisions

By TOM PLATE
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SEOUL -- Ban Ki Moon, ordinarily a mild and discreet gentleman, 
could barely contain smoldering anger over the "October 
surprise" as he sat down for breakfast with me just hours after 
Al-Jazeera, the Arabic-language news network, released a 
videotape apparently starring the inimitable Osama bin Laden.
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The soft-spoken foreign minister of South Korea wasn't so much 
angry over the content of the tape -- which featured bin Laden 
explaining to the world the reasons for his outfit's 9/11 attack 
on the Twin Towers and explicitly criticizing the incumbent U.S. 
president -- as over its intended effect.
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"It's highly sophisticated psychological warfare," explained the 
erudite diplomat, who holds impressive degrees from Harvard's 
JFK School of Government and South Korea's prestigious Seoul 
National University. "He's trying to sow the seeds of division. 
He's trying to create divisions not only among the U.S.-led 
coalition forces but also among Arab countries."
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Many Arab countries, he suggested, are caught between Iraq and a 
hard place, the latter being their own domestic public that's in 
part sympathetic to the grisly heroics of suicide bombers. And 
what angers Foreign Minister Ban most is the possibility of such 
divisive tactics hitting their mark, again and again.

From disunity arises upheaval, and the best diplomats have long 
memories. Back in 2001, this career Korean foreign-service 
officer -- then with the title of Republic of Korea ambassador 
to the United Nations -- was serving as chef de Cabinet to the 
president of the General Assembly of the U.N. It was a nail-
biting assignment.

Even after the horror of Sept. 11, he recalled, "there was a 
tremendous lack of consensus at the United Nations about even 
the definition of terrorism. There was no single convention, no 
comprehensive approach. Everyone had a different definition of 
the problem -- for some, terrorists were freedom fighters. So 
many nations had so very different views. And this is still the 
problem today: There are still too many countries that do not 
express clear views on this question."

The inevitable tragic result, Ban told me emphatically, is a 
terrifying global Tower of Babel. And this vexing vortex of 
vulnerability on the fearsome terrorism challenge provides Osama 
bin Laden and his opportunistic network an evil-promising future.

"It's divide and conqueror, classic divide and rule," said the 
foreign minister with low-key passion. He shook his head as if 
decrying the foolishness of the civilized world in its inability 
to close ranks and isolate the terrorists.

The foreign minister of the Republic of Korea wasn't born 
yesterday, of course. Now a spry 60, he has held diplomatic 
posts from Austria to India. He knows full well the myriad of 
differences among nation-states, with their various national 
interest  
 

From: Noam The Wish-I-Was-Great-As-Binny Bone
To: He's VERY clever! BINNY!BINNY!BINNY!BINNY!BINNY!BINNY!BINNY!BINNY!BINNY!
Subject: Bin Laden's Economy Threat Is Timely - He's VERY clever! (http://www.osamabinladeniswinning.comhttp://www.osamabinladeniswinning.comhttp://www.osamabinladeniswinning.comhttp://www.osama)
Date: Mon Nov 1 20:23:20 2004

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Bin Laden's Economy Threat Is Timely

DONNA BRYSON
http://www.osamabinladeniswinning.com
CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden vowed to bleed America to 
bankruptcy, according to a full transcript of unaired portions 
of a videotape released Monday by an Arab television station. 
The al-Qaida leader's remarks appeared targeted to the final 
days of the U.S. presidential campaign in which the struggling 
economy is a major issue.

Bin Laden boasted in his first appearance in more than a year 
that for every $1 al-Qaida has spent on terrorist strikes, it 
has cost the United States $1 million in economic fallout and 
military spending, including emergency funding for Iraq and 
Afghanistan.

"As for the size of the economic deficit, it has reached record 
astronomical numbers," bin Laden said, estimating the deficit at 
more than $1 trillion.

In reality, spending in the war against terror and other factors 
have resulted in an expected $377 billion shortfall for 2003 - 
the highest deficit since World War II accounting for inflation. 
The total U.S. national debt is near the $7.4 trillion statutory 
limit.

Bin Laden dwelled on al-Qaida's economic strategy against the 
United States, according to the complete transcript of the 18-
minute video that aired on Al-Jazeera and was obtained by U.S. 
intelligence. Al-Jazeera broadcast about 14 minutes of the video 
Friday and put the full English language transcript on its web 
site on Monday.

The terror mastermind whose al-Qaida network carried out the 
Sept. 11, 2001 attacks credited the religiously inspired Arab 
volunteers that he fought with against the Soviets in 
Afghanistan with having "bled Russia for 10 years, until it went 
bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat." He suggested the 
same strategy would work against the United States.

"So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the 
point of bankruptcy," a calm and forceful bin Laden said in the 
tape that appeared near the end of a U.S. campaign that has 
focused on the war on terror as well as the foundering U.S. 
economy.

Bin Laden, in rhetoric that seemed to echo critical campaign 
headlines in the United States, accused President Bush of going 
to war in oil-rich Iraq simply to create business for military 
contractors linked to his administration.

In his message aimed at American listeners, bin Laden claimed al-
Qaida was winning its war with the United States, and that 
contractors "like Halliburton and its kind" were also 
benefiting, while the losers were "the American people and their 
economy."

Bin Laden noted reports that al-Qaida spent $500,000 "on the 
event" - referring to Sept. 11 attacks - while the United States 
has lost more than $500 billion "in the incident and its 
aftermath," he added, citing an estimate by a British think tank.

Evan F. Kohlmann, a U.S.-based counterterrorism researcher, said 
it was as if bin Laden were following the news from the United 
States, perhaps on satellite TV, and drawing shrewd assumptions 
a ... 
 

From: Noam The In-Cahoots Bone
To: He's looking healthy isn't he?? (http://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.org)
Subject: Bin Laden tape most politically sophisticated yet - He's looking healthy isn't he?? (http://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.org)
Date: Mon Nov 1 20:22:14 2004

Message:
Bin Laden tape most politically sophisticated yet - He's looking 
healthy isn't he?? 
(http://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boyco
tusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.orghttp://www.boycotusa.org) 
Bin Laden tape most politically sophisticated yet
http://www.boycottusa.org
Daily Times Monitor

WASHINGTON: In his latest videotaped message, Osama Bin Laden 
has tried to portray himself as a  statesman  of the Muslim 
world, said Bruce Hoffman, terrorism expert at the US think tank 
RAND Corp, in an interview with The Christian Science Monitor on 
Monday. 
http://www.boycottusa.org
Intelligence and counter-terrorism experts agreed that the 
latest video was Bin Laden s most politically sophisticated to 
date. 

One senior intelligence official told the American-based 
newspaper that part of Bin Laden s  genius  was that his 
messages focused on six areas of US foreign policy: US support 
for Israel; US presence in the Arabian peninsula; US support for 
China, Russia, India and other nations accused of oppressing 
Muslims; US  military occupation  of Muslim countries (Saudi 
Arabia, the Philippines, Yemen, Iraq and Afghanistan); US 
inability to manipulate the price of Arabian oil; and US support 
of Muslim tyrannies (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt and Algeria). 

CIA officials admitted that there was no specific threat 
information on the latest tape but revealed that they only had 
access to five minutes of the 18-minute footage. 

On Bin Laden s ability to elude authorities, experts pointed to 
the fact that he had practised guerrilla warfare for more than 
20 years in one of the most remote and inhospitable corners of 
the world. They added that he received support not only from 
radical Islamists but also from the world s larger Muslim 
population. 

Most experts believed that Bin Laden was holed up in the 
mountain caves along Pakistan s border region with Afghanistan. 
They emphasised that Bin Laden knew the terrain better than even 
those hunting for him. 

Corps Commander Lt Gen Safdar Hussain Shah told Pakistani 
journalists that he believed Bin Laden had left the Pak-Afghan 
border area. He said that the Pakistani Army had a very good 
surveillance system in place and that there was hardly any area 
that they had not swept through. He added that had Bin Laden 
been there, he would have been captured by now. 

Sources in Pakistan s tribal areas said that most foreign 
militants, mainly Arabs, had already left the region through 
Balochistan, allegedly moving into Iran or the Gulf States. 

Islamabad-based security analyst Riffat Hussain said that Bin 
Laden would be a  great fool  if he had stayed in the border 
area, adding that he would most likely head for a location where 
no one expected him to be. 

Saliab Mehsud, an expert on South Waziristan, said that Bin 
Laden could be anywhere from Pakistan s tribal region to 
Afghanistan or in China s Muslim province of Uighur, since 
militants there had fought alongside him in the past. Noor 
Mohammad, an educated tribesman from South Waziristan said that 
nobody had succeeded in penetrating Bin Laden s inner circle. He 
said that people were not providing information on his 
whereabouts because they either s ... 
 

From: Noam the Wishful-Thinking Bone
To: Lets' Hope and PRAY that for FUCK'S SAKE Binny DOES succeed this time...he's our ONLY hope MIGHTY OSAMA!!!!!
Subject: Bin Laden vows to bankrupt US
Date: Mon Nov 1 20:19:44 2004

Message:
Bin Laden vows to bankrupt US
Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has vowed to wage a war 
of "attrition" against the United States until it is "bankrupt," 
in a message to the American people posted on the Al Jazeera 
website.

The Qatar-based television posted what appeared to be the full 
text of a message, excerpts of which were aired three days ago, 
in which bin Laden threatened the United States with attacks 
similar to those of September 11, 2001. 

"We became experts in gang warfare and in the war of attrition," 
says bin Laden in the new excerpts, published on the eve of the 
US presidential election. 

"We fought the unjust superpower, waging [a war of] attrition, 
along with the [Afghan] mujahedeen, [against] Russia for 10 
years until they became bankrupt and decided to withdraw in 
defeat," he says, referring to the fight against Soviet 
occupation forces in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

"We will press ahead with this policy of attrition [against] 
America until it is bankrupt, God willing. This is not difficult 
for God," bin Laden says. 

In the parts of the video broadcast by Al Jazeera on Friday, bin 
Laden accused US President George W Bush of negligence during 
the September 11 attacks, further inflaming the already intense 
final struggle for the White House between Mr Bush and John 
Kerry. 

Bin Laden told the American people that their security is not in 
the hands of either Mr Bush or his Democrat challenger in 
Tuesday's presidential vote but depends on US policy. 

"The more serious thing for America is that the mujahedeen 
recently forced Bush to draw on an emergency fund to continue 
the combat in Afghanistan and in Iraq, which proves the success 
of the plan of attrition until bankruptcy," bin Laden says in 
the new excerpts of the message, which US intelligence agencies 
have deemed authentic. 

He also boasts of the ease with which Al Qaeda has been able to 
make the US administration jump. 

"It was easy for us to provoke this administration and drag it" 
to places of Al Qaeda's choosing, he says. 

"It only takes sending two mujahedeen to the far Mashreq [east] 
raising a piece of cloth bearing the name of Al Qaeda for the 
[US] generals to scurry there, causing America human, material 
and political losses without any gain to speak of, except some 
benefits for their private companies," bin Laden adds. 

On Sunday, the White House labelled bin Laden's surprise address 
to the American people as "threatening rhetoric," but said 
intelligence officials were still analysing the tape for 
anything more menacing. 

--AFP

http://www.osamabinladeniswinning.com

From: Noam The Accessory-After-The-Fact Bone
To: He;'s still alive and the JewSSa can't stop ol' BInny! ha ha :')
Subject: Bin Laden, election to move US stocks
Date: Mon Nov 1 20:18:01 2004

Message:
Bin Laden, election to  move  US stocks
Tuesday November 2 2004 00:00 IST 
Reuters

 

NEW YORK: Fresh threats from Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden 
could initially unnerve Wall Street this week.

But US Stocks will rally if President george w. Bush retains the 
White House and pull back modestly if Sen. John Kerry unseats 
him, according to analysts.

Bin Laden - looking healthy and defiant in his first video 
appearance in more than a year - said the United States may face 
renewed attacks, like those that destroyed the World Trade 
Center and damaged the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.

Al Jazeera TV aired Bin Laden's videotape on Friday after the 
stock market closed.

''Despite entering the fourth year after September 11, Bush is 
still deceiving you and hiding the truth from you, and 
therefore, the reasons are still there to repeat what 
happened,'' Bin Laden said. That is likely to make traders more 
nervous.

''If the markets were open (now), it would be a temporary 
downward impact, then dissipate,'' John Davidson, president of 
Partner Re Asset Management Corp., said late on Friday.

Wall Street wants a winner investors also will be focused on the 
outcome of Tuesday's election.

For wall street, who wins on Tuesday is far less important than 
just having a winner at all.

The biggest risk for investors is a repeat of the 2000 race, 
which was not ultimately decided for more than a month because 
of legal wrangling over voting irregularities in Florida. The 
Standard & Poor's 500 index fell more than 3 per cent during 
that unsettled period.

''If we don't have an immediate outcome, I think we'll see a 
sell-off similar to four years ago,'' said Barry Hyman, chief 
investment strategist at Ehrenkrantz, King, Nussbaum.

''I wish investors had more confidence that there will be a 
clear winner'' in the election, said Hugh Johnson, chief 
investment officer at First Albany Corp. in Albany, New York.

''It's likely to put the stock market on hold until we find out 
who won. I'm not even sure we'll find out next week.

''It seems like it could be a mess, and not just in Florida this 
time,'' he said.

Heading into the election, national polls show the race as too 
close to call.

''Uncertainty is a big thing, and if president Bush is re-
elected, the market will go up,'' said James Fisher, vice 
president and trust investment officer at Univest Corp.

''If Kerry wins, it's more uncertainty, and so we will see more 
of the same things. The overall trend in the market will be 
flat.''

The market rode into election week on an upswing, with the three 
most widely watched gauges ending the final week of October 
higher.

The Dow Jones industrial average and the S&P both snapped three-
week losing streaks, and the Nasdaq composite rose for the 
second week in a row. 

The advance was fuelled in no small part by the retreat in oil 
prices, which fell nearly 9 per cent by week's end after hitting 
an all-time high above $55 a barrel earlier in the week.

For the week, the DoW climbed 2.76 per cent to 10,027.47, the 
S&P 500 was up 3.13 per cent at 1,130.20 and the Nasdaq ended 
3.13 per cent higher at 1,974.99.

For October, the DoW ended down 0.5 per cent, while the S&P rose 
1.4 per cent and the Nasdaq jumped 4.1 per cent.

And for the year, the DoW is down 4.1 per cent and the Nasdaq is 
down 1.4 per cent. The S&P 500 is up 1.6 per cent so far in 2004.

If it's over ... Back to basics

Once the election dust settles, if it is clear who has won, 
investors' focus should turn from politics back to the basic 
menu of economic data and corporate earnings, analysts said.

''After the elections, if we have a president, there will be 
more focus on the economic data,'' Univest's Fisher 
said. ''Iraq, coupled with oil, will also be important. There is 
still a lot of unknown.''

The week's biggest economic indicator is Friday's employment 
report for October, which is expected to show the addition of 
about 150,000 non-farm jobs, up from a lower-than-expected 
96,000 in September, and an unemployment rate steady at 5.4 per 
cent.

Sluggish job growth has clouded the economic outlook for months 
and has fuelled investor uncertainty over stocks. Stocks have 
ended the day lower following each of the past four monthly 
payroll reports.

The week also will feature figures on service-sector activity, 
construction spending, personal income, productivity and factory 
orders.

Corporate earnings remain a key factor, too, with another 50 or 
more components of the S&P 500 scheduled to report earnings this 
week. By Friday, nearly 90 per cent of the S&P 500 members will 
have issued their quarterly report cards.

Big names on the slate include industrial conglomerate Tyco 
International ltd., wireless communications company Qualcomm 
Inc. And media powerhouse Time Warner Inc.

Car makers will report October auto sales on Wednesday and 
retailers will release monthly sales on Thursday.

From: Laughing at america
To:
Date: Sat Oct 30 11:16:37 2004

Message:
I don't know who Noam thinks he's talking to, but his posts are 
the same sad, tired theme: bash America, blah blah blah. The 
only real challenge to them is finding the time to scroll past 
them to something meaningful.     



I don't know who YOU think you're talking to, but your posts are 
same old shit: nameless cunt, whining and crying about anything 
anyone else does. If scrolling is challenging to you, maybe you 
should slit your own throat, and give to the world one more 
handicapped parking slot.

From: still reading
To:
Subject: not sure where I should post this.
Date: Sat Oct 30 01:47:59 2004

Message:
I just found this blog. I read the faq and can tell you that
 wuite a few assumptions are incorrect. The Faa and the Defense 
 network, although sharing the same equipment are entirely two 
 seperate entities. Also, NORAD monitors the civil air net they 
 had no communications with air traffic control. This can be 
 proven by the searches that needed to be done to search for the 
 down airliner that went down of the shores of New York. It took 
 three days for pentagon clearance to allow the release of  
 recorded data. Unfortunately I don't recall the flight number 
 but do remember the contraversy.

   And as for forty five minutes for fighters to arrive over New
 York during the horrific day. I waa, at the time, an airmen 
 with  an air nation guard unit. I can tell you that in the mid 
 ninties  all live rounds were moved from our base to one the 
 had atleast a company of stationed, full time, enlistees. in our
 case that was thirty miles. 

   The reasoning that was explained to me was the fear of theft. 
 With the scale backs our unit was close to quarter strenght. As 
 a transportation unit we had little in the way of heavy 
 armament but what was there was relocated. It was two days after
 the eleventh that they finally moved everything back. 

   I don't know if this was the case for those fighters but 
 also, keep in mind, that it could be quite possible that the 
 closest wings were down in thier rotation. I always said that 
 the scale backs would create confussion if anything ever 
 hapened. I'm so upset that I was right. 

   By the way. It was Ex-President Clinton that had orchestrated 
 the scale backs. Sixty minutes, CBS news show, that exposed some
 of the weaknesses in the system. The program aired in november  
 of '99 as a show dedicated to the preparedness of the gaurd 
 with the looming Y2k issues. 

   I'll try to find the specific links and post for refrence.  
 Like I said, I just stumbled in here. 

                    Just a comment. 
 


From:
To:
Date: Fri Oct 29 07:20:54 2004

Message:
I don't know who Noam thinks he's talking to, but his posts are 
the same sad, tired theme: bash America, blah blah blah. The 
only real challenge to them is finding the time to scroll past 
them to something meaningful.     

From: noam the FULLY-ERCT bone
To: let shop and pray with all our might that he will come through with his GLORIOUS promises!!!pleaaaaasse for fuck's sake!!:D
Subject: 'American' voice on new terror video
Date: Thu Oct 28 23:27:43 2004

Message:
'American' voice on new terror video

ABC News is in possession of a tape purportedly from the group, 
threatening attacks on the US.
http://www.truthout.org
By Gretchen Peters | Correspondent of The Christian Science 
Monitor 

ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN   A new videotape that has surfaced in 
Pakistan threatens a massive attack against the United States 
by a purported American member of Al Qaeda. It is not yet known 
if the tape is an authentic Al Qaeda production, but it bears 
enough resemblance that some experts are taking the tape 
seriously. 
The chilling 75-minute digital videotape, seen by a Christian 
Science Monitor reporter in Pakistan, where it was obtained by 
ABC News, shows a high degree of sophistication and bears the 
logo of Al Qaeda's video production house, As-Sahab.
http://www.truthout.org
On the video, the unknown man's face is masked with a 
Palestinian scarf and sunglasses. He stabs the air with his 
finger, which appears to be fair-skinned, as he delivers his 
warning in American-accented English.

"Allah willing, the streets of America will run red with blood, 
matching drop for drop the blood of America's victims," says 
the speaker, who calls himself Azzam al Amriki (or Azzam the 
American). "What took place on September 11th was but the 
opening salvo in the global war on America."

The next attacks, he adds, "could come at any moment."

This is the first time a purported Al Qaeda video has featured 
an English-speaking messenger, and while he references the top 
two Al Qaeda leaders, neither Osama bin Laden or Ayman al-
Zawahiri appear. This unique circumstance, as well as the 
highly charged timing of the tape's release just days before 
Americans head to the polls, has the US intelligence community 
approaching the tape with caution.

"As-Sahab is an Al Qaeda propaganda outfit and engages in 
psychological warfare," says Bruce Hoffman, an expert on terror 
at the RAND Corp. in Washington. "Given the hype of the US 
election in general, that the jihadists claim credit for 
affecting the outcome of the Spanish elections, and the 
heightened chatter that intelligence agencies acknowledge, I'm 
surprised we haven't seen something like this sooner."

While ABC has not aired the video, knowledge of its existence 
was leaked to the Drudge Report and picked up by the mainstream 
press including NBC, Fox, the Washington Post, and Reuters who 
all reported on the video without seeing it.

"ABC News has shared this tape with both the CIA and FBI as 
part of our reporting process. ABC News is committed to 
accurate, credible, and complete journalism and is applying the 
same scrutiny to this tape that we apply to all raw 
information. ABC continues to report this story very 
aggressively," says Jeffery Schneider, vice president of ABC 
News.

At press time, the US intelligence community had yet to 
authenticate the video but they continued to work on it.

"Unless you can identify the individual or compare [it] to 
known samples, it is difficult to authenticate," says a US 
intelligence official. "There's no information in the 
intelligence community that links this video to a specific 
threat. So what [the speaker] is talking about doesn't appear 
in other intelligence."

The tape, delivered to ABC in Islamabad last Sunday by a 
courier who was paid a $500 transport fee, contains a lengthy 
Q&A session between "Mr. Amriki" and an off-camera interviewer. 
It ends with his warning, which cuts off abruptly when the tape 
runs out.

Analysts at Pakistan's spy agency, the ISI, say the tape is 
genuine, explaining the material bears the same "signature" as 
previous As-Sahab video releases, which are unique in the world 
of jihadi video for their sophisticated editing techniques.

It features the same gold logo that appeared, among other 
places, in a 2003 statement from Mr. bin Laden.

There's also simultaneous Arabic subtitling - a complicated and 
time consuming process to put together - and a scrolling 
message across the bottom of the screen (similar to the news 
tickers on CNN and Fox) that was featured on a recent statement 
from al-Zawahiri.

Since Sept. 11, 2001, as-Sahab has consistently pushed the 
frontiers of jihad media, publishing everything from "Nineteen 
Martyrs" (the story of the 9/11 hijackers) to live action 
terrorist attacks in Saudi Arabia captured on video, says 
terrorism consultant Evan Kohlmann, who saw a portion of the 
material. "For someone to put that amount of advanced effort 
into fabricating an as-Sahab video sounds a little far-
fetched," he says.

Ahmad Muffaq Zaidan, Pakistan's bureau chief for the Arab-
language network Al Jazeera and the recipient of past As-Sahab 
material here, also rated the material genuine. "We have seen 
this style before - the translation, the logo, the scroll," he 
says.

The US intelligence official agrees that "there's a production 
value" to the tape.

"The tape itself was edited and portions were spliced 
together," he says. "It probably was worked on for a period of 
time - probably done fairly recently, as recently as late 
summer."

The tape's speaker references the conflict in Darfur, the 9/11 
commission, Massachusetts same sex legislation, and the 
upcoming US presidential election.

Nevertheless, it's become easier and cheaper to produce a 
relatively sophisticated video. With about $3,500, one can 
purchase a small digital video camera and a laptop with video 
editing software, and create output, which as Kohlmann puts it, 
is worthy of "a half-decent Hollywood studio."

"Terrorist wannabes [have] manufactured an encyclopedia full of 
fraudulent threats and communiques on the Internet," says 
Kohlmann. "It is now getting easy enough that similar wannabes 
can produce their own jihad videos too."

Al Amriki issues several bursts of Arabic, mainly from the 
Koran, speaking the language well, but not as a native, say 
Arabic speakers who've heard the tape. And he's clearly a 
sophisticated news consumer - quoting sources ranging from 
BBC's Arabic language radio to US comedian Bill Maher.

His rhetoric - both in English and Arabic - closely mirrors 
past statements by Al Qaeda: calling US leaders crusaders and 
weaving a picture of America as a corrupt empire about to 
expire.

The courier who delivered the tape would reveal nothing about 
Al Amriki's identity, saying only that he received the material 
last Friday in Peshawar. He insisted it had been filmed in 
Pakistan's tribal belt, where militants are battling the 
Pakistani military.

ISI analysts believe dozens of US and European passport holders 
of Muslim descent have joined jihadi groups there, and say this 
man is probably one of them. Others believe he may be a new 
John Walker Lindh, the California native caught fighting with 
the Taliban in 2001.

US law enforcement agents have suggested it could be Adam 
Yahiye Gadahn, an Orange County native, suspected by the FBI to 
be working with Al Qaeda, possibly as a translator. Mr. Gadahn, 
who was born Adam Pearlman, also goes by the nom de guerre Abu 
Suhayb Al-Amriki.

"In the realm of psychological warfare, which is calculated to 
ratchet up the fear level, if it is a sworn enemy making those 
threats it's one thing, if it's someone speaking our language, 
living among us, it does heighten the sense of fear," says Mr. 
Hoffman of RAND. "That's what terrorism tries to do - raise the 
level of fear."

http://www.truthout.org

From: Noam Well-Get-A-Load-Of-This-One Bone
To: ghost the guy who rapes nigger toddlers to death in their tiny asses
Subject: Alleged American Al Qaeda Warns of U.S. AttacksAzzam the American: 'Streets of America Will Run Red With Blood'
Date: Thu Oct 28 23:25:04 2004

Message:
Alleged American Al Qaeda Warns of U.S. AttacksAzzam the 
American: 'Streets of America Will Run Red With Blood'
A man identified only as "Azzam the American" appears on a tape 
saying America faces a new wave of terror attacks. (ABC News)
By BRIAN ROSS

NEW YORK, Oct. 28, 2004   A man describing himself as an 
American member of al Qaeda says a new wave of terror attacks 
against the United States could come "at any moment," according 
to a videotape obtained by ABC News. 

The tape was acquired by ABC News last Friday from a source 
known to have Taliban and al Qaeda contacts in the tribal 
region of Pakistan. ABC paid the source $500 in transportation 
fees. 

 
Video: Message for America 
 
 



From the ABCNEWS Investigative Unit: Daily Investigative Report 


Alleged American Al Qaeda Warns of U.S. Attacks 
Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control 
Person of the Week: Complete Coverage 
While CIA officials say they have not been able to authenticate 
the 75-minute tape, an agency spokesman says it "appears to 
have been produced by al Qaeda's media organization, al Sahab 
productions." The tape is marked with the same logo and 
graphics seen on previous videos released by al Qaeda. 

The man on the tape is identified only as "Azzam the American." 
U.S. officials say they had not previously known of the nom de 
guerre. His face is never fully visible and he makes no 
reference to where in the United States he might have lived. 

"No, my fellow countrymen you are guilty, guilty, guilty, 
guilty. You are as guilty as Bush and Cheney. You're as guilty 
as Rumsfeld and Ashcroft and Powell," he says in what he calls 
his message to America. "After decades of American tyranny and 
oppression, now it's your turn to die. Allah willing, the 
streets of America will run red with blood matching drop for 
drop the blood of America's victims." 

Senior administration officials told ABC News tonight that 
copies of the tape are being provided to all 13 current and 
former administration figures mentioned by name in the tape, 
and that the tape is being shown to captured al Qaeda leaders 
in U.S. custody to see if they can identify the man on the tape.


"A member of al Qaeda who professes to be a U.S. citizen was 
always coveted and looked for by the al Qaeda," said Jack 
Cloonan, a former FBI agent who interviewed a number of 
captured al Qaeda members and is now an ABC News consultant. 
Cloonan said he believed the tape to be authentic. 

Law enforcement officials and linguistic expert Gerald Lampe, 
deputy director of the National Foreign Language Center at the 
University of Maryland, believe English was not Azzam's first 
language. They speculate he may have learned English as a child 
in a household of non-native speakers. 

U.S. officials believe there are several Americans working with 
al Qaeda, including Adam Gadahn, a former Southern California 
student who is wanted for questioning by the FBI. U.S. 
intelligence officials say the voice on the tape does not match 
Gadahn's or that of any Americans suspected of being part of al 
Qaeda. 

Azzam makes references to several American officials, including 
9/11 Commission Chairman Tom Kean, and even refers to the 
controversial remarks made by comedian Bill Maher about the 
cowardice of the U.S. launching cruise missiles compared with 
terrorist suicide attacks. 

And he warned that Sept. 11 was only the beginning. 

"People of America, I remind you of the weighty words of our 
leaders, Osama bin Laden and Dr. Ayman al-Zawahri, that what 
took place on Sept. 11 was but the opening salvo of the global 
war on America," said Azzam. "And that Allah willing, the 
magnitude and ferocity of what is coming your way will make you 
forget all about Sept. 11." 
http://www.fuckbush.com
Brian Ross' full report aired Oct. 28, 2004, on ABC's "World 
News Tonight with Peter Jennings." 
A man identified only as "Azzam the American" appears on a tape 
saying America faces a new wave of terror attacks. (ABC News)

From: ghost
To: Noam the headscarf-wearing, pork-eating bone
Date: Thu Oct 28 08:25:13 2004

Message:
Yassir Aridfart is very ill and might die very soon. Won't that 
be HILARIOUS? All the Palestinian shitheels fighting over his 
body like the uncivilized little fucks did when Ayatollah 
Khomeini's body fell out of the coffin. THAT was fuckin' 
funny!!! THAT is the difference between my nation and yours: 
MINE is civilized. Yours is living in the 7th century. BTW, I 
have a video clip of Iraqi gunman getting destroyed by a chain 
gun. I just wanted you to know that the didn't die right away. 
Nope, they suffered for awhile. They were hiding and waiting to 
ambush Coalition forces, but the stupid shits were "hiding" with 
their backs to a highway overpass, and were in fact in plain 
view of motorists. My nation is civilized except for when it 
goes to war. Then we get to see your little friends fucking 
DESTROYED enroute to their eternal damnation. Looks like the 
religion of "peace" has some growing up to do. And so do you. 
Punk.            

From: ghost
To: Noam the pedophilic bone
Date: Thu Oct 28 08:22:26 2004

Message:
>yawn< 

You bore me. Your messages are stupid, flatter than your 
mother's chest, and utterly pointless. The way I see it, you're 
only good for chewing the used gumm off the bottoms of my 
shoes.   

From: Noam The Temporary-Australian Bone
To: all filhty morbidly obese, geogrpahically challenged yanky scum
Subject: Motorcycle bomber kills 1 in Iraq convoy attack - that yanky cunt didn't get too far in "SAVING" the "IRAQI PEOPLE" did he?? h aha (http://www.antiamerica.comhttp://www.antiamerica.comhttp://www.antiamerica.comhttp://www.antiamerica.comhttp://www.antiamerica.)
Date: Thu Oct 28 02:53:21 2004

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Motorcycle bomber kills 1 in Iraq convoy attack - that yanky 
cunt didn't get too far in "SAVING" the "IRAQI PEOPLE" did he?? 
h aha 
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ntiamerica.comhttp://www.antiamerica.comhttp://www.antiamerica.) 
Motorcycle bomber kills 1 in Iraq convoy attack
A US soldier has been killed and another wounded in a suspected 
motorcycle bombing against their convoy in eastern Iraq, the 
military says.
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"A 13th Corps Support Command soldier is dead and one is injured 
as the result of a suspected motorcycle bomb attack on their 
convoy near Sindiayah," it said in a statement.

The latest American death raises the number of US military 
fatalities in Iraq to 1,102 since the March 2003 invasion, 
according to Pentagon numbers. 

The support command group created headlines earlier this month 
when 18 soldiers refused to take a fuel convoy from Tallil, a 
base in southern Iraq, to Taji, north of the Iraqi capital. 

Soldiers complained through family members in the United States 
that the trucks were poorly maintained and insufficiently 
protected.
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They said that made the mission a "suicide" run through a region 
notorious for roadside attacks on convoys. 

-- AFP 
 

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