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From: Marie
To: Ha! All You
Subject: I dont know if it's Mars! Or What!
Date: Thu Aug 28 00:00:19 2003

Message:
But I wish everyone well actually! And I hope you all have a 
very nice day/night whatever! Even those who have been so kind 
to post in my name as I have not been here. Yes even YOU! I am 
so enjoying my mood tonight, post away lol, write what you 
want, I still hope you all are very well, and have an wonderful 
day tomorrow! :) Go OUT! See Mars! You will enjoy it, and 
knowing the whole world is looking at it too makes me happy! 
You will be too!!!

From: Katalin
To: All
Subject: My experiences....
Date: Thu Aug 28 02:26:28 2003

Message:
Just a few lines relating to the war in Iraq and why people 
have the anti feelings that they do towards America....
I spent some time over in the middle east (mainly Egypt...), 
some 4 years so I got to hear the other side of this war and 
not just from newspapers/media as it seems most people who have 
written any half inteligent comments here seem to have had.I 
got to meet many different people from the arab world and I 
apologise to say that many of them don't see America as some 
sort of saviour or freedom maker as they make out to be.There 
are a lot of anti sentiments through out the middle east. I get 
the impression that people see America as an oppressing nation 
who only sees its own interests at heart.I got the impression 
that it is all about control both economic and otherwise, not 
just about oil as some people argue. Indeed when you think 
about it they have their foot in almost every arab nation, the 
only one that they do not as of yet is Iran but I am sure that 
will be next.Many people over there feel contempt because of 
this.I am not saying that Sadams regime was not horrible, 
indeed crimes were performed on the Iraqi people. However, 
every time a civilian is killed it pushes anti American 
feelings only further. The average person in Egypt for example, 
if  anything is mentioned about America or their policies will 
only respond with anger and negative comments. I have had some 
really nasty fights over the smallest things when anything to 
do with America was mentioned.The background for such feelings 
emerged some years ago with the problems between Israel and 
Palestine.Those feeling have escallated in the last couple of 
years with what has been seen as a david and galioth struggle 
between the two.Anti- American feelings come from what paople 
perceive as America apparently siding with the Israeli 
government all the while doing nothing constructive to try to 
resolve the issues they have. Before I hear about terrorists 
and suicide bombings some people tend to forget that such 
products only come as a result of desperation from the 
Palestinian people who have been forced off their land in the 
first place and if they try to resist are removed forcefully by 
a powerful army (the second most powerful in the world as it 
seems or so I have heard...). Many of their people have been 
killed as a result and as they are the weaker side and 
extremely desperate with nothing much else to loose letting 
forth a suicide bomber seems the only way. I know it isn't the 
way but that is how some feel. I have met people fr0om 
palestine but I also have friends from Israel so no one should 
badmouth me as not knowing anything. Anyway such anti-
sentiments started from this and anything else like the isues 
with Afganisitan and Iraq only fuel that fire.Unfortunately 
terrorism is the end product of this.
Anyway this is my opinion from the experiences I have had 
through living there and seeing things first hand. My opinions 
are serious and are not meant to insult anyone it is just the 
way that I have seen things and why people have the feelings 
that they do, especially in the middle east. I am not from the 
middle east originally, I originally hail from Norway. 
I hope that everyone is mature enough to understand this this 
letter and not start name calling/insulting me for it. I think 
a serious letter would be nice for a change.

Katalin.

From: Lea
To: Marie
Subject: She has no idea!!!!!
Date: Thu Aug 28 10:48:09 2003

Message:
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?

WELL....

From: Marie
To: Katalin
Date: Thu Aug 28 19:19:35 2003

Message:
First I want to say FINALLY! Some intelligent conversation!
Being a women, I think you are too, we somehow see things 
differently and take things to heart more passionately than the 
males do. (No offence to the males on the board)
I hope I have the opportunity someday, to do what you have done 
by getting to go to the Middle East myself. Maybe someday when 
they dont hate American's as much as they do. I do understand 
that they are not looking at us like a savior. But also we 
arent trying to be. As long as I can remember I have grown up 
with Terrorism. Even before our hostages were taken in Iran. I 
remember bits and pieces of things that happened or I was told 
or heard after I was already born. I do understand both the 
Palestinian and the Israeli issues and sides! On one hand you 
have the Israeli's who were brutilized and murdered actually 
exterminated by Hitler during WW2. We swore after we were drug 
into yet another war, that we would never see that happen to 
another civilazation EVER again. Now I can understand that, 
looking at what Hitler had done to those people! Kind of like 
Saddam, and his own people, mass graves (Similar), beating of 
athletes that didnt win in the Olympics and eventually 
torturing them to death. Using the (So called) Non existent 
WMD's of biological/chemical weapons that he said he had in 
1998, that he has no proof of destroying ANYWHERE, that he used 
on his own people, the Kurds. You know the rest of the story. 
I can also understand the Palestinian issue, they  deffinately 
need a country they can call PALESTINE! But, the actions they 
are taking to make this happen are non-excusible. I believe 
everyone has the right to exist, unless they are trying to kill 
us/you, or putting ours/your Country at risk of further, 
possibly more evil terrorist actions. Ok they got our 
attention, but they have always had it also. Working on a plan 
for the two of them (Israel and Palestine) to live together in 
Harmony and peace has been difficult to say the least, and the 
US will not bargain with, nor listen to any form of terrorism. 
The terrorists need to change thier ways, which would be hard 
if that's all they grew up knowing also. Thus Stalemate!  
I believe they can be heard, and seen without blowing people 
up! Those that reguard us as people that do not want peace and 
only personnel gain are sadly misguided, and probably 
conditioned to believe that! In the 200+ years this Country has 
been here we have tried to create nothing but Peace! Made up of 
ALL Ethnic groups, All Religions, Contrary to popular belief. 
Some people want it, some people dont, and some people think 
they need to be radical to prove thier point. Well being 
radical does not work with American's. If they can put down 
thier explosives long enough to let a well made peace plan take 
place, they will find American's will help them in every way 
possible, there for a bit American's thought there was a BIG 
chance for them to obtain peace, and live side by side until 
yet another terrorist attack. If they continue with the 
terrorist attacks No-One is going to take them seriously, and 
only wind up classifying them as a Terrorist Orginazation. 
Which will put them on the back burner forever. Obviously they 
want our help, because they keep asking for it. And I'm sure we 
would give them as much as Israel if they wouldnt use terrorist 
tactics! It doesnt work. It just makes them look like "Just 
another terrorist organization". And will wind up being 
classified just that, unless they TALK and change thier 
tactics! I work next to some Iraqi's that escaped Saddam's 
regime in the early 90's, that's where I hear alot of opinions 
on this matter, not the TV, or Newspapers. Which I read them 
also, but I'm never quite sure what I'm reading is "Not wanting 
us to Panic" stuff. The Iraqi people that I talk to are 
positive we have done the correct thing, they say we have 
prevented another Hitler, and swear Saddam has, and has hidden 
the WMD in Syria and Lebanon! Now I dont know for sure where 
they are getting thier information, I do know they still have a 
few family members left in Iraq that werent killed by Saddam 
and his regime, however some have been, so I'm inclined to 
believe them over anybody! They seem to know first hand the 
brutality of the regime and know they were a DEFFINATE threat 
to the United States of America. One of them said "Saddam was 
so obsessed with aquiring Weapons" to target American's he paid 
millions for these weapons, bio-chem, etc.., From all kinds of 
Countries!  Now in your statement you said "People over there 
get basically pissed when you mention American this and 
American that without wanting to solve THIER problems"! Is that 
not contradictory of another statement you made 
reguarding "They dont feel American's are some form of Savior 
because we arent helping them with thier problems"? How can we 
be both? If they dont see us as a Peace Maker (Savior is not 
our intention), then why the hell ask for our help? They cannot 
have it both ways! If anyone thinks Saddam and his Regime were 
not "Terrorist Haven" according to the guy who works next to 
me, they are out of thier minds! He (Saddam) (According to the 
guy again) said he was not only meeting with Al-Queda, but 
Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Shiite Muslim something (I forget the 
name), and various terror organizations. Paying them to commit 
acts of terror on not only the US but anyone who supported the 
US. Because he was obsessed! He wanted to see America go and 
anyone who helped them go also. Well he was wrong! He not only 
helped Al-Quaeda in thier quest for doing in the US in any way 
he could help, (Buying arms from Russia, France, etc, and not 
telling them it was going to be used against us!) Can you 
imagine the red faces when we said "You know what F.. This He 
is a threat to us and whether you like it or not we will take 
that threat out" Knowing what we were going to find there in 
the way of weapons and so forth, knowing in all honesty that 
they didnt sell them to him to use against us, but sold them to 
him (Before the fact) knowing we would find them which we have, 
thinking we would probably see them as a part of the terror 
organization? Which we have a bit more common sense than that 
and more than likely (As far as I know) do NOT consider them as 
part of ie:
But No wonder they didnt want us to go in there, lol, they 
already knew! Forgive me, I am going on and on, but I have 
someone of some form of intelligence to talk to, so I'm 
babbling!  Anyway, I have not ment to insult you, if I have, I 
just dont condone any terrorist activities, even if that's the 
only way (They think) they can get thier point across. It will 
be impossible with the US. I do however understand that if you 
have been conditioned to be that way, you can get unconditioned 
just as easy! Nice talking to you :) Marie

Now you will see some morons post in my name, and say filthy 
stupid stuff! But it wont be me. You will know when it's me :)

From: Marie
To: Lea
Date: Thu Aug 28 23:52:47 2003

Message:
I would try Syria and Lebanon for starters :)

From:
To:
Date: Fri Aug 29 08:33:24 2003

Message:
Syria and Lebanon

These places are the ones the US is going to invade next...

And when they aren't there either,

Egypt!
Pakistan!
Palestine!
Libya!
Any other country ending with -stan.

From: Marie
To:
Date: Fri Aug 29 23:57:22 2003

Message:
Did you hear what President Bush said shortly after 9-11? He 
said "Any one who wears the Uniform get ready", he aslo said we 
are fighting a "New" Kind of War. The War on Terrorism! He said 
wherever we have to go, whatever we have to do to get every 
terrorist, and/or disrupt thier operations so badly that they 
have no head (Like cutting the head off a snake), whoever 
hides, aids and abeds terrorists, are just as guilty as the 
terrorists, and "We will bring Justice to the terrorist's, or 
the terrorist's to justice". It isnt going to matter what 
anyone says. And I believe ANY President occupying the White 
House at that time and since would have made the same call. 
Then again you could answer yourself, Where is the Terrorism 
comming from? Pretty much any sate/country that ends with a-
STAN. And several that dont end that way. But the entire Middle-
East about covers it dont you think? Some of the best 
intelligence in the world comes from Israel. Shortly before the 
war started, when Saddam knew we were for sure comming, He had 
the WMD's (According to alot of Iraqi head of state types, the 
ones being interigated by the US and thier allies, out of the 
deck of playing cards/among others) and Satelite Video of 
Israeli intelligence, shows trucks moving toward the borders of 
Syria and Lebanon with equipment that sure as heck wasnt 
frieght of some kind. I dont think those men (Blair, Bush, the 
President of Spain, Italy, Poland, Ireland, Scottland, Iceland, 
Checkoslivakia, etc.. the other 26 allied nations) would lay 
thier reputations on the line, knowing they may risk mayhem in 
thier own countries, for something ALL the intelligence 
agency's of ALL those allied countries firmly believe is true! 
And still swear by it! And Mr. Bush is inclined to believe 
along with them (Since our intelligence matches thiers) that 
they are right! And we are too. In other words if that's where 
the road to destroying terrorism leads us, then that's where we 
will be. No matter what country that winds up being! And I'm 
quite sure no matter which president holds the office after 
him, they are going to continue this war on terrorism no matter 
what they are saying during an election year. You know how it 
works, they will say ANYTHING to get in the White House, but it 
takes someone with a bit of intestinal fortitude to go directly 
after them.  I would like to know, since Saddam admitted he had 
them, as early as 1998,and offered up 12,000 pages of "Stuff" 
to the United Nations, saying he had destroyed them shortly 
before resolution 1441 went into effect, but giving no clue as 
to where he destroyed them, no site to test to see if he 
actually did destroy them, made the UN march half way around 
the country on purpose knowing the weapons had already been 
sent out of the country, knowing the UN wasnt going to find 
any, and until we had boots on the ground, started gathering 
human intelligence, we never knew where he was keeping this 
stuff either, where the heck did they go? Where did he destroy 
them? Where is this site located? It's a bit baffleing to say 
the least! I dont see why anyone is surpised that we may go 
where we have to to put an end to this shit! He told us already!
Do you want to wake up every day of your life wondering if 
there is going to be another 9-11? I sure dont!! 

From:
To: MARIE
Date: Sat Aug 30 07:54:06 2003

Message:
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS SCARY. WHEN DO THESE HARBOURERS OF
TERRORISTS END. RUSSIA? ALL OF EUROPE?

From: sa27
To: marie
Date: Sat Aug 30 14:28:48 2003

Message:
first you begin talking about freeing the world from 
terrorism...I am all for that.  But then you got mixed up in 
WMDs.  I don't know if you remember any of my posts from before 
the war; my main point was it is injust to start a was on a 
suspicsion.  BUSH AND BLAIR NEVER HAD ANY PROFF OF WMDs.  all 
they had was lists of unaccounted material. That war was 
extremely injust and unproductive. Electric and oil productions 
are far below what they were before the war. This pisses people 
off. So it really does no good to kill every terrorist you can 
get your hands on, if you end up pissing off another group of 
people.  Do you understand? The "War On Terrorism" has created 
more terrorists. Read the article at 

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=165

It will show you that less people are with us since sept. 11 and 
bush's infamous "war on terror"

From: sa27
To:
Date: Sat Aug 30 14:44:44 2003

Message:
shit..i suck at typing.  In the 4th line "was" should be "war" 
and in the 5th "PROFF" should be "PROOF"

From: F U C K A R A B S
To: suckass27times
Subject: K I L L A N A R A B T O D A Y
Date: Sat Aug 30 21:42:26 2003

Message:
or impregnate a arab cunt you crybaby pussy.  killing all the 
sand niggers is best.  fucking the living shit out of their 
women to thin out the terrorist bloodline is option no. 2 you 
stupid pussy.  

From: Wahabbis = Nigger Scumbags
To: Islam=Faggots Sand Queers
Subject: Wahabbis are Cocksucking Faggots
Date: Sun Aug 31 20:35:14 2003

Message:
The males of the sect, when very 
young, get fucked up the ass by their 
fathers, who pass along the centuries-
old tradition of buggery founded by 
the "prophet" Mohammed, who was 
nothing but a limp-wristed (but 
swarthy) novelist. He was the Arabs' 
Ginsburg and Velikovsky wrapped 
into one raghead faggot fraud meat-
slapping wanker. Wahabbis and 
NAMBLA have a lot in common.

September 11th, 2001.  Wahabbi 
nigger cocksucking faggots, led by 
buck-toothed homosexual Osama bin 
Laden hijack planes, cut 
stewardesses's throats (like the brave 
men they are) and fly them into 
buildings, killing, burning to death 
women. I saw the pictures of the 
bodies briefly on a website and I vow 
to God (not your faggot "Allah"), you 
cocksucking faggot Arab nigger pigs I 
support the US military to hunt you 
down and and fucking kill you. We 
already offed your faggot hero 
Osama. The punk died with a cock in 
his mouth. He had no time to reach his 
prop-AK47.

And woe betide you filthy Wahabbi 
nigger faggots in my country. Better for 
you to fall into John Ashcroft's hands 
than mine. He would at best deport 
you. I vow to slit your faggot throat and 
call the country that birthed you pieces 
of shit to come get the bodies outta 
here.

We don't want stinking Islamic pieces 
of shit in America.

PS: Listen up, Wahabbi niggers and 
Palestinian pieces of shit:

Hijack an American plane again and the 
passengers will kill you. I am a frequent 
flyer and a bit bigger than stupid little 
Arab nigger faggot cocksuckers. I will 
throttle you and kick your faggot balls 
right out through your cocksucking 
mouth.

From: F U C K A R A B S
To: Islam=Faggots Sand Queers
Date: Sun Aug 31 21:37:19 2003

Message:
Y  E  A  H  !  !  thats im talkin about...kill every stinkin one 
of the cocksuckin, little boy lovin faggots!  or fuck their 
bitches to death....hahahahaaaaaaaa

From: sa27
To: F U C K A R A B S
Date: Sun Aug 31 21:40:15 2003

Message:
About 60 years ago a group of people took the same "fuck the 
world, we are best" attitude. The Nazis; they took on France, 
Great Britian, the Soviet Union, Australia, Canada, America, and 
many others. What do you think happened to them? They got their 
German asses whipped all over Africa, Eastern and Western 
Europe.  So before you begin emulating these fuck-ups, learn a 
little history. Your attitude is one that will lead to your 
downfall.  It is just plain ignorant to say that we can fuck 
with Arabs and have nothing to fear.

From: F U C K A R A B S
To: suckass27times
Date: Sun Aug 31 22:28:36 2003

Message:
you have an inferiority complex.  you must be a fuckin A R A B!
just kill you ownself now cause you W I L L be exterminated. got 
a girlfriend?  is she a good fuck?  hahahahaaaaaaaa

From:
To: F U C K A R A B S
Date: Mon Sep 1 06:01:55 2003

Message:
Wow. We have some real intellectuals on this board.

You write well for a five year old.

From: Marie
To: Sa27
Date: Mon Sep 1 13:17:36 2003

Message:
From: sa27 
To: marie 
Date: Sat Aug 30 14:28:48 2003 
Message:
first you begin talking about freeing the world from 
terrorism...I am all for that.  But then you got mixed up in 
WMDs.  I don't know if you remember any of my posts from before 
the war; my main point was it is injust to start a was on a 
suspicsion.  BUSH AND BLAIR NEVER HAD ANY PROFF OF WMDs.  all 
they had was lists of unaccounted material. That war was 
extremely injust and unproductive. Electric and oil productions 
are far below what they were before the war. This pisses people 
off. So it really does no good to kill every terrorist you can 
get your hands on, if you end up pissing off another group of 
people.  Do you understand? The "War On Terrorism" has created 
more terrorists. Read the article at 

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=165

It will show you that less people are with us since sept. 11 
and 
bush's infamous "war on terror"

-----------------------------------------------

Dont worry about it, I cant type well either.
I guess when I feel as strongly as I do about this I really get 
to going lol...
If you have a better Idea than to go straight after the 
terrorists all at once or one at a time, I would Love to hear 
it.
I dont remember all your posts before the war, I do remember 
that you were opposed to it. Which is your God givin right.
However you know already that I dont agree, which is mine also. 
Now, I dont believe for one minute that 26 or more of the most 
powerful Nation's in the World (With the exception of France 
and Germany) would stake thier reputations, and mathching 
intelligence, of thiers, and matching intelligence of ours, 
solely on an a suspicion! Dont forget Saddam admitted he had 
that crap as early as 1998, and most assuredly used them on his 
own people the Kurds as early as 1991! Then submitted 12,000 
pages of utter crap to the United Nations for UN Resolution 
1441. Which in turn sent the inspectors back yet again to 
examine and look for ANY site which he destroyed anything! 
(Also dont forget he threw out the weapons inspectors in 1998 
also, giving him plenty of chance to hide, make more, 
etc..Something someone with nothing to hide certainly wouldnt 
do) In the 12,000 pages of nonsense he submitted to the United 
Nation's, he was suppose to outline where and when he destroyed 
his uh..stuff! It was totally left out. Everyone knew he had 
the stuff, since he addmitted it, even boasted about it, and 
proved it by using it on his own people. According to this 
Iraqi guy I work next to, (Who escaped Saddam's regime in the 
early 90's) It was like common knowledge that ALL Iraqi's knew 
he had them, but the everyday Iraqi wasnt privi to the 
information on where they were. Sort of like a tatic to "Keep 
his people in line" So to speak, by scaring the shit out of 
them, knowing he may bust out his arsenal, and use them on them 
like he did the Kurd's at ANY time, if there was something 
going on he didnt like! Anyway, there wasnt just a "List" of 
unnacounted for Material. More than 26 countries intelligence, 
matching ours, and Britan's, besides the fact he admitted 
having them, and proved it by using them on his own people, I 
would hardly call "No Proof".
That war was not only RIGHT in EVERY sense of the word, but 
between all the Countries involved (We cannot take full credit) 
they eliminated another HITLER! And yes that's exactly what he 
was. The oil production, and electricity were pretty damn close 
to the capacity it was pre-war, until what's left of the 'Ol 
Saddam loyalists decided we were making great progress there, 
and decided to blow up bridges, oil production plant's, a main 
Electricity production facility, etc...which set us back a bit. 
But wont set us back for long. (Saddam really cared about those 
people eh?) This is also the fastest rebuilding of a Nation 
after a "Change in Regime" ever recorded in History! If it 
wasnt for the precision guided weaponry we and the coalition 
forces used to limit the damage and casualties, the situation 
would be alot worse. Hitting the ground as fast as we did was 
brilliant to say the least, leaving Saddam with not alot of 
options as how he could destroy his people even further by 
leaving them nothing if he possibly could. Some more of these 
attacks on thier own infastructure, and people, and they (The 
Iraqi's) are going to finally say "Hey wait a minute, I'm 
getting sick of this shit). And start going after those guilty 
themselves. Which would be a very good thing for us and the 
coalition. Which I am feeling is going to start happening soon 
anyway. 
I am not worried about "Pissing off more terrorists", the more 
that come out and rear thier ugly heads, the faster they will 
fall, I know what you are saying about creating more of them, 
but bring them on, they will be sqashed as fast as the rest.
While we are on the subject of "More or Less of them" (The 
Terrorists), you have to admit that they are not operating with 
the freedom they had to move around, communicate with each 
other (Except in Person), Get ahold to thier money as easily as 
they used to, and quite a large number of them are either in 
Gitmo, or dead. Something like 2/3's? I think that's a 
tremendous number for a war that has been going on since only 9-
11! Considering the fact that we have stopped the flow of alot 
of thier money to them, have voice recognition throughout the 
satelite, telecommunications, and Internet route, civilians and 
intelligence turning them in at a fast pace making it possible 
to capture and or kill them, getting more intelligence from 
those that have been captured and interigated (And no I dont 
give a damn how they are interigating them) etc...I think we 
and the coalition have made tremendous progress in the "War on 
Terror" in such a short period of time. I havent read the 
article you posted up there yet, but again I will have to 
disagree, I think we have MORE people helping us and the 
coalition since 9-11 simply because they are getting sick of 
this shit too, and feel they might be next, or comming up soon. 
And without America, Britain, and the more than 26 countries 
involved so far, who are the "Little Countries" going to scream 
to for help if they are left vulnerable for an attack, and have 
one? The World isnt going to settle for the destruction of 
America, Britain, Ireland, Austraila, Italy, Spain, Scottland, 
Canada, Poland, Holland, The Netherlands, etc.. They would have 
thier entire economies collapse as well as be sitting ducks for 
them to be riddled with terrorist activity, and eventually the 
end of civilazation as we know it. This isnt just Bush and 
Blair's war on terrorism, it's the worlds. That is if 
the "World" would like to continue to exist! I hope you can 
look at the overall broad picture of this, and see it for what 
it really is.
9-11 is comming up soon, NEVER forget who got attacked first 
here. We are now fighting for OUR right to exist! I see no 
other way to end this, (Which no one ever said it would be 
easy, or fast), except to cut off the head of the snake! If we 
all would like to continue to exist!

From: sa27
To: marie
Date: Mon Sep 1 18:39:45 2003

Message:
You make several good arguments. I am not completely against 
you. My main problems with what you said; there are no proven 
links between the Hussein regime and Al-Qaeda. I don't 
understand how you can say "We are now fighting for OUR right to 
exist!" when that link has not been proven, and Saddam was 
taking no offensive actions against America when Bush began this 
huge mess! Blair claimed that saddam's WMDs could be launched in 
45 minutes.  Yet you say: "I dont believe for one minute that 26 
or more of the most powerful Nation's in the World (With the 
exception of France and Germany) would stake thier reputations, 
and mathching intelligence, of thiers, and matching intelligence 
of ours, solely on an a suspicion!"  

If that wasn't a suspicion, then i don't know what is!!! As the 
American forces were leaving Saddam with "leaving Saddam with 
not alot of options" why didn't he try to defend himself with 
these? 

MAYBE BECAUSE HE DID NOT HAVE THEM!!

From: om/cf
To: sa27
Date: Mon Sep 1 21:29:53 2003

Message:
Maybe he didn't have them because they were shipped by truck 
through Syria to the most secure, hard to attack place in all of 
the M.E., the Bekka Valley in Lebanon - loaded chock full of 
Syrian troops and Hizbollah fighters? Read a article the other 
day to that effect. Also, just before the war began, there were 
reports of a major explosion in the Bekka Valley that killed a 
lot of Hizbollah and the area was made off-limits quickly except 
to ambulances. The gist was, the dead were playing with 
ordanance powerfull far beyond the bomb-vest and homemade rocket 
type stuff they were used to handling. Just another possiblity.


From: sa27
To: om/cf
Date: Tue Sep 2 16:49:47 2003

Message:
just another possibility. Nobody really knows for sure if he did 
or did not have them.  Many of the Iraq war supporters say that 
we have freed Iraqis from tyranny and granted them democracy. 
Maybe they should research one of the most important parts of 
this great democracy's legal system, and my main 
point...Innocent until proven guilty.

From: om/cf
To: sa27
Date: Wed Sep 3 00:20:02 2003

Message:
Innocent until proven guilty.
_____________________________

I can at this very moment be arrested based completly on 
suspicion in America and taken to jail and forced to pay a bond 
I'll never get back...and you want me to believe in fairy tales?

WMD or not, Iraq is a breeding ground for the likes of al-Qaeda, 
people that want to destroy America. We either fight the evil 
fucks over there or fight the evil fucks on U.S. soil. The four 
bombs targeting Iraqi's co-operating with coalition forces 
trying to stabilize and rebuild Iraq in the past four weeks 
could have just as easily been four bombs killing U.S. civilians.





From:
To:
Date: Wed Sep 3 06:37:33 2003

Message:
Iraq wasn't a breeding ground of Al-Qa'edo then, but with all the
instability the US has brought, it sure is now. Saddam was a nut,
but at least he kept the fundie muslims in check.

From: Marie
To: Sa27
Date: Wed Sep 3 12:44:57 2003

Message:
From: sa27 
To: marie 
Date: Mon Sep 1 18:39:45 2003 
Message:
You make several good arguments. I am not completely against 
you. My main problems with what you said; there are no proven 
links between the Hussein regime and Al-Qaeda. I don't 
understand how you can say "We are now fighting for OUR right 
to 
exist!" when that link has not been proven, and Saddam was 
taking no offensive actions against America when Bush began 
this 
huge mess! Blair claimed that saddam's WMDs could be launched 
in 
45 minutes.  Yet you say: "I dont believe for one minute that 
26 
or more of the most powerful Nation's in the World (With the 
exception of France and Germany) would stake thier reputations, 
and mathching intelligence, of thiers, and matching 
intelligence 
of ours, solely on an a suspicion!"  

If that wasn't a suspicion, then i don't know what is!!! As the 
American forces were leaving Saddam with "leaving Saddam with 
not alot of options" why didn't he try to defend himself with 
these? 

MAYBE BECAUSE HE DID NOT HAVE THEM!!

------------------------------------------------------

Ok, shortly after we were "In Country", why it wasnt highly 
publicized I dont know, but we found literaly in the first week 
or two an Al-Queda training camp not to far from the 
infamous "Mural" depicting the first plane to hit World Trade 
Center One. I dont remember what town this was, Now this I know 
for sure because some of the War footage I couldnt watch at 
work so I recorded it to see when I got home. And I still have 
it. Needless to say I myself was shocked when I saw it, and 
started questioning after several days why it wasnt publicized 
MORE! There was no way to hide it or cover it up, because of 
the embedded reporter's. 
Saddam Hussien (May the piss of Allah lay upon him) 
was "Terrorist Haven". There was all kinds of goings on over 
there in the way of Terrorist activities. Some may not be 
proven YET, but it will be eventually. One thing that has been 
proven was he paid Palestinian Families for thier son's or 
daughter's to commit homicide bombings in Israel! Leaving 
behind video tapes of thier last words, and how Saddam's money 
would help thier families and so forth. And these parents were 
actually PROUD of this. Now, seeing the training camp, 
the "Mural", and there have been phone records PROVEN between 
Saddam, and Bin Laden. Hell they were comunicating through our 
own satelite's. There are some other things that I have 
forgotten but the proof is there. That one just happens to 
stick in my mind.
The reason I say we are now fighting for our right to "Exist" 
is because there are people that want to kill us, wipe us off 
the face of the earth, totally destroy us. Setting aside the 
(Iraq is free, we and the coalition helped them) and all that, 
there was more going on over in Iraq than just wanting to 
destroy the United States, the man was turning into another 
Hitler, (Or had already) and his sons were no better, and were 
helping him. He had what every terrorist wanted, weapons, of 
all different kinds, ADMITTEDLY. Dont forget he admitted he had 
these weapons back in 1998! That's why there was a UN 
Resolution 1441. That at the time EVERY Country in the UN voted 
for. Which states very clearly "Force will be used if he does 
not dissarm". (Which for thier own personal gain, or whatever 
reasons, probably money and embarassment, and the fact that 
some of the weapons we have found so far bare the markings of 
France, Germany, and Russia, backed out on the use of force 
portion).  
He was a "Walmart" for every terrorist's shopping needs. And 
God help us if he did get to arm any of those bastards, which I 
think he did when he threw out the weapons inspectors in 1998!
Considering all that, I think it's safe to say we ARE fighting 
for our right to exist! It was only a matter of time before 
Saddam took action against us, he wouldnt have done it "On his 
own" so to speak, the little rodent would have paid, or given 
money, weapons, whatever the terrorist's wanted to commit the 
attacks. Knowing full well his hands were dirty, yet taking no 
responsability! Thus Al-Queda! And Bush didnt start 
this "Mess", dont forget we were the ones who got attacked! And 
any sitting President (With any balls) would have done the 
exact same thing! 
Yes Blair said Saddam could launch his WMD's in 45 minutes, and 
he still swears to it to this day! We are not the only ones out 
there with intelligence you know. Hell Israel probably has the 
best in the world. ALL the countries that knew this, all the 
matching intelligence, the failure to dissarm leading to UN 
resolution 1441, That is not suspicion, that is fact! 
Not to mention, when we would move in on a base of operations, 
left abandoned (If you could call it that, a hole in the ground 
with a few surface to air missles, RPG's, Guns etc..) and 
GASMASKS found at these sites, is more than enough proof that 
his own soldiers knew what he might be ready to let lose! I 
mean that was obvious. We moved in so quickly, I mean I can 
picture those Iraqi soldiers <~(Joke), running and yelling "Oh 
holy shit I left my gas mask!". We had them on the run, kept 
them on the run, Saddam too, he didnt have the time to use the 
bio-chem weapons on us. (Brilliant plan I might add) Not to 
mention the fact that the major stockpile was a bit hard to 
reach in Syria and Lebanon. Oh they are there alright, still 
covered, but they are there. The vast majority is in Syria and 
Lebanon. Those local yokles arent firing at our troops just 
because they want to, they are protecting something!!!! When 
all is said and done there, which may still take a long time, 
you will see that either by us or the coalition, they will be 
uncovered. Even if we have to march into Syria and Lebanon to 
get them! This also should put an end to the folks that say "We 
planted them" However I doubt it, when they are uncovered, I 
bet that's the first thing the anti-everything about this, 
people will say. I know I feel alot safer without Saddam in 
power, his money pretty much cut off, and his country ransaked 
by the US and coalition forces. That breeding ground for 
terrorist's is GONE! Sooner or later they all will be. Like 
this guy said on the news this morning, let them all come out, 
(The terrorist's) that way we can keep an eye on them and kill 
them all faster! 

From: sa27
To: marie
Date: Wed Sep 3 18:08:48 2003

Message:
"It was only a matter of time before Saddam took action against 
us" So then by this logic you would support taking action 
against anybody has the potential to kill someone? Everyone with 
a gun, a car, a cigarette, and a bottle of beer would be in jail 
then. It doesn't really matter how many Iraqis or Al-Qaeda 
members we kill...if we keep invading countries, there will be 
millions more coming at us; we will have to fight the whole 
world.


"And Bush didnt start 
this "Mess", dont forget we were the ones who got attacked!"  
That's very interesting. Then I guess you could tell me what 
saddam did to America to begin the Iraq war. I'd love to hear.

From: sa27
To: om/cf
Date: Wed Sep 3 18:24:25 2003

Message:
And you probably would not like being arrested based on that 
suspicion.  You would feel it was unjust.  You would demand 
answers for why that happened to you.  Now you know what I mean. 
The Iraq war was a huge injustice to the world.  It was started 
over suspicions and assumptions. I have nothing left to say on 
the issue until I read reports from a reliable source that there 
was a confirmed link between Saddam's regime and Al-qaeda, or 
proof of WMDs.

From: F U C K A R A B S
To: suckass27times
Date: Thu Sep 4 00:27:29 2003

Message:
go rot in hell with your A R A B fucken brothers you camel shit 
covered cunt.  we will kill your shit kind and put shit where it 
belongs.  then fuck ur ol lady and make a movie disgracing her 
sloppy cunt.  K I L L  A L L  A R A B S  N O W

From:
To:
Date: Thu Sep 4 00:36:51 2003

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From: Sarah
To: All those racists out there...
Subject: What a load of.....
Date: Thu Sep 4 01:00:00 2003

Message:
What is all of this racist bullshit that seems to comming up on 
this site. The stupid insults are already enough  without 
havving a bunch of racist biggots out there writing their 
bullshit on this website. 
That is why this world is as fucked up as it is, from wankers 
like you. Go to some neo nazi site is you want to express such 
stupid views.
The world does not need such garbage as yourselves.

From:
To: F U C K A R A B S
Date: Thu Sep 4 03:57:32 2003

Message:
What a pathetic attemt at trolling.

Hey, if you subscribe to the NAZI belief, then you must concede
that I am your superior and obey me, you welfare cheat. Go fix
the hole in the roof of your trailer. Perhaps you could get the
money to do it by going on Jerry Springer and admitting how you
like your Daddy sodomizing you.

From: ALAWOONA
To: ALAWOONA
Subject: ALAWOONA
Date: Thu Sep 4 08:13:41 2003

Message:
ALAWOONA!!!!!!!!!!

GOING DOWN TO ALAWOONA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


From: Marie
To: Sa27
Date: Thu Sep 4 22:15:29 2003

Message:
From: sa27 
To: marie 
Date: Wed Sep 3 18:08:48 2003 
Message:
"It was only a matter of time before Saddam took action against 
us" So then by this logic you would support taking action 
against anybody has the potential to kill someone? Everyone 
with 
a gun, a car, a cigarette, and a bottle of beer would be in 
jail 
then. It doesn't really matter how many Iraqis or Al-Qaeda 
members we kill...if we keep invading countries, there will be 
millions more coming at us; we will have to fight the whole 
world.
--------------------------------------

No! Just those that pose a threat to this Country!!
It does matter a great deal, Support taking Action? In a 
Heartbeat!!!
Draw them out by the millions, take them out that much faster, 
that's the idea! And we wont have to invade anyone. We arent 
the ones who have to change our ways, they are the ones who 
have to change thiers!!
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"And Bush didnt start 
this "Mess", dont forget we were the ones who got attacked!"  
That's very interesting. Then I guess you could tell me what 
saddam did to America to begin the Iraq war. I'd love to hear.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's not what Saddam did to America, it's what Saddam did to 
provoke UN resolution 1441 taking affect. By not providing 
adequate information on where, and how he destroyed his 
weapons, he provoked the Countries involved into dissarming him 
for him!!
He didnt dissarm!

From: F U C K A R A B S
To:
Date: Thu Sep 4 23:04:06 2003

Message:
Hey, if you subscribe to the NAZI belief, then you must concede
that I am your superior and obey me, you welfare cheat. Go fix
the hole in the roof of your trailer. Perhaps you could get the
money to do it by going on Jerry Springer and admitting how you
like your Daddy sodomizing you.

Y O U  KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE SORT OF SHIT YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU 
MUST BE AN A R A B CUNT.  GET READY TO DIE A R A B  FUCKER! PRAY 
TO ALLAH, THE GOD OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION SPUNKSUCKER.

K I L L  A L L  A R A B S  N O W

THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE...ALL OF THEM!



From: F U C K A R A B S
To:
Date: Fri Sep 5 03:51:04 2003

Message:
I hate ARABS
I hate JEWS
I hate IRISH
I hate YOU
I hate ENGLISH
I hate WELSH
I hate AUSTRALIANS

and most of all

I HATE MYSELF!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

SOMEBODY KILL ME!

From: Marie
To: FuckArabs
Date: Fri Sep 5 10:03:54 2003

Message:
I dont have any idea who you are talking to, but I am NOT an 
ARAB anything! And you should be concerned with ANYONE not just 
Arab's, who pose a threat to this Country! Start looking around 
for anyone playing around our railways, rivers, dams, power 
plants, etc.. If you want to do something constructive. If you 
want to get your hands on some terrorists, that's where you are 
going to find them!

From:
To:
Date: Fri Sep 5 10:45:50 2003

Message:
damn! they're going for or dams now!?

(joke)

From: F U C K A R A B S
To: Marie
Date: Fri Sep 5 21:09:45 2003

Message:
A R A B S must be K I L L E D everewhere.  stores  eaterys in 
the home  on the bus  in the car  in the mosques.  do not limit 
the killing grouds. 

 K I L L  A L L  A R A B S  N O W

before its to late.

From: FUCKARABS
To:
Date: Sat Sep 6 04:28:53 2003

Message:
You're gay.

From: Marie
To: FA
Date: Sat Sep 6 09:59:25 2003

Message:
A R A B S must be K I L L E D everewhere.  stores  eaterys in 
the home  on the bus  in the car  in the mosques.  do not limit 
the killing grouds. 

 K I L L  A L L  A R A B S  N O W

before its to late.
--------------------------------------------
Um! Dont you think that is a touch to radical?
I mean what if it's a John Walker Linde kind of a person, you 
would never know!

From:
To: FA
Date: Sat Sep 6 10:34:16 2003

Message:
Denomini i ragionieri! Il mio ombrello   su fuoco!

HA! GO DOWN TO ALAWOONA!

From: F U C K A R A B S
To: ALAWOONA
Date: Sat Sep 6 14:01:53 2003

Message:
go down on ur camel raghead bitch.  ur days are numbered stinkin 
animal fucker.  allah kill you.  

From:
To:
Subject: Osama
Date: Sun Sep 7 02:14:53 2003

Message:
After getting nailed by a Daisy Cutter, Osama bin Laden made 
his way to
the 
pearly gates. There, he is greeted by George Washington.

"How dare you attack the nation I helped conceive!" yells Mr. 
Washington, slapping Osama in the face. Patrick Henry comes up 
from 
behind: "You wanted to end the Americans' liberty, so they gave 
you 
death!"  Henry punches Osama on the nose.  James Madison comes 
up 
next, and says, "This is why I allowed the Federal government 
to 
provide for the common defense!"  He drops a large weight on 
Osama's 
knee.

Osama is subject to similar beatings from John Randolph of 
Roanoke, 
James Monroe and 65 other 18th-century American 
revolutionaries. As 
he writhes on the ground, Thomas Jefferson picks him up to hurl 
him 
back toward the gate where he is to be judged.

As Osama awaits his journey to his final very hot destination, 
he 
screams, "This is not what I was promised!"

An angel replies: "I told you there would be 72 Virginians 
waiting 
for you. What did you think I said?" 



From: Father Philpott
To: All
Subject: Weapons of mass descruction
Date: Sun Sep 7 23:17:34 2003

Message:
It is now obvious that Saddam has loaded all Iraq's weapons of 
MD into the back of his "Partridge Family" bus and is in hiding 
disguised as a hippy together with Osama. Last seen heading for 
Austin, Texas.

From: George Dublya BUSH
To: France and Germany
Date: Sun Sep 7 23:23:29 2003

Message:
I'm sorry I called you names.
I'm sorry I renamed frech-fries to freedom fries.
I'm sorry I invaded Iraq with absolutely no plan for what came 
after.
I'm sorry we did not locate Saddam and that he is still free.
I'm sorry we did not locate Osama and that he is still free.
I'm sorry that the U.S. has another Vietnam on it's hands.
I'm sorry our boys are gonna be in Iraq for years and years at 
great expense to the American tax-payer.
I'm sorry France and Germany were right and I was 
wrong....pllllllllllease come and help us out of this God-awful 
mess we have created!!!!!!

From: Jacque Chirac
To: GW Bush
Date: Mon Sep 8 02:43:27 2003

Message:
Ooooo, you silly american person, I wave my genitals in your 
general direction, I ave non regarde for your fooolish 
apologees - you ave made your Vietnam, NOW SLEEP IN IT!

We Francoise persons knew you Yanks ad it wrong from ze 
beginning - Zut! Alores!

Au Revior,
Jacque, Le Presidente de Francoise

From: A foreigner
To: America
Subject: 911
Date: Mon Sep 8 06:01:02 2003

Message:
The American people certainly did not deserve what happened on
September 11, 2001. However, such things are at least partially
the result of US government intervention in foreign affairs when
they are not wanted. Don't let them take your lives for their
policy mistakes. Hold them accountable.

From: iraqi
To: people who did not help only america europe and other counrtries
Subject: money
Date: Mon Sep 8 18:07:10 2003

Message:
america and the britain and the other countries are the only 
one who help us, and we will not forgot this, the grermany and 
the freance, we dont need you help, we dont want no money go to 
you, you done nothing, you new what was going here, you done 
nothing we dont want you here only america and the britain ans 
coliton is what want now

From:
To: Iraqi
Date: Mon Sep 8 19:52:14 2003

Message:
No problem, coz you will not get our help. No electricity for 
years!

From: om/cf
To: Father Philpott
Date: Mon Sep 8 19:57:26 2003

Message:
It is now obvious that Saddam has loaded all Iraq's weapons of 
MD into the back of his "Partridge Family" bus and is in hiding 
disguised as a hippy together with Osama. Last seen heading for 
Austin, Texas.
___________________________________

Try trucks rolling through Syria and into the Bekka Valley of 
Lebanon, and you will be closer to the truth.

From: sa27
To: om/cf
Date: Mon Sep 8 22:05:03 2003

Message:
Yeah, I think he was making fun of you.  You already wrote your 
base-less theory that the weapons are hid in another country.  I 
thought "He clearly has much to hide." as Bush said in his 2003 
state of the union speech.  The American military is far 
superior to any other in the middle east in terms of fighting 
ability and technology. Why then weren't they able to destroy 
the convoys going into neighboring countries, or at least track 
those convoys through satellite surveilance? Let's not forget 
that Saddam had "25,000 liters of anthrax...38,000 liters of 
botulinum toxin...500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve 
agent...29,984 prohibited munitions." (Also from 2003 SOU 
speech) Moving that much of anything is no small task; moving 
that much highly dangerous material is an even larger task. It 
isnt going to be moved in the back of a couple of vans and 
pickups. In all likelyhood the Iraqis didn't have the capability 
to transport it. So there you go folks, Bush tried to get people 
to believe that there were huge warehouses filled to the ceiling 
with WMDs. Unfortunately, some Americans bit on it, and went 
crazy demanding justice before the evidence was brought to the 
table. Here we are now months later, inspectors can find no 
evidence.

From: Katalin
To: Marie & and others on this board.
Subject: What can be done towards peace?
Date: Tue Sep 9 02:02:46 2003

Message:
Some very interesting points that you made in response to my 
letter. I would just like to know any suggestions Marie or that 
of any half intelligent person visiting this web-site on how 
this problem between Israel & Palestine can be solved? It seems 
like some headway is made between the 2 when something goes 
wrong & everything falls apart. Put aside the obvious frictions, 
like one antagonising the other thus breaking down the peace 
process (Bombing or blowing up someone or something?)
One other thing comes from a friend of mine from Sweden who use 
to live in Israel/ Palestine. Most Israelis want peace just as 
much (Not the government maybe?) and as it seems have their own 
peace groups over in Israel. My friend told me of one time, 
whilst in a cafe heard a bomb blast shudder down the road. After 
looking into this blast it was found that this blast was aimed 
at another cafe which sadly contained a group of Israeli peace 
supporters which had just come from a rally.
A sad but true story and I am sure not the first I am sure?
This is just a short letter. I have got some other points that I 
hope to adress in the future.


From: om/cf
To: Katalin
Date: Tue Sep 9 17:53:53 2003

Message:
I would just like to know any suggestions Marie or that 
of any half intelligent person visiting this web-site on how 
this problem between Israel & Palestine can be solved? 
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-------------------------------------------------------

Two more murderous attacks on Israeli civilians today can be 
added to this list when the final victum totals are in.
-------------------------------------------------------

August 19, 2003 Jerusalem 22 killed, 135 wounded Hamas Suicide 
bombing on a bus. 
January 5, 2003 Tel Aviv 23 killed, 108 injured Fatah al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Two suicide bombers in an immigrant neighborhood 
June 5, 2002 Megiddo 17 killed, 38 injured Islamic Jihad Car 
bomb next to bus 
May 27, 2002 Petah Tikvah 2 killed, 37 injured Fatah al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Suicide bomb in shopping mall 
May 22, 2002 Rishon Lezion 2 killed, 40 wounded   Suicide bomb 
on pedestrian mall 
May 19, 2002 Netanya 3 killed, 59 injured Hamas and the PFLP 
Suicide bomb in market 
May 7, 2002 Rishon Lezion 16 killed, 55 injured Hamas Suicide 
bomb in pool hall 
Apr 12, 2002 Jerusalem 6 killed, 104 injured Fatah al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Suicide bomb in Mahane Yehuda market 
Apr 10, 2002 Kibbutz Yagur 8 killed, 22 injured Hamas Suicide 
bombing on bus 
March 31, 2002 Haifa 14 Killed, 40 Wounded Hamas Suicide bombing 
at restaurant 
March 29, 2002 Jerusalem 2 killed, 28 Wounded Fatah al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Suicide bombing at supermarket in Kiryat Yovel 
March 27, 2002 Netanya 22 killed, 140 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
bombing at Passover seder at Park Hotel 
March 21, 2002 Jerusalem 3 killed, 86 Wounded Fatah al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Suicide bombing downtown 
March 20, 2002 Afula 7 killed, 30 wounded Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs 
Brigade Suicide bombing on bus 
March 14, 2002 Karni-Netzarim road 3 Killed, 2 Wounded Fatah al-
Aksa Martyrs Brigade Remote Control Mine 
March 12, 2002 near Kibbutz Matzuva 6 Killed, 7 Wounded Fatah al-
Aksa Martyrs Brigade Gunmen Ambush Vehicles 
March 12, 2002 Kiryat Sefer checkpoint 1 Killed, 1 Wounded   
Shooting Attack 
March 11, 2002 Ashdod 1 Wounded   Gunman Opens Fire at Bar 
Mitzvah 
March 10, 2002 Netzarim 1 Killed Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade 
Shooting Attack 
March 9, 2002 Jerusalem 11 Killed, 54 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber at Cafe 
March 9, 2002 Netanya 2 Killed, 50 Wounded Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs 
Brigade 2 Gunmen Open Fire on a Promenade 
March 7, 2002 Atzmona 5 Killed, 23 Wounded   Terrorist Opens 
Fire and Throws Grenades 
March 7, 2002 Ariel >6 Wounded   Suicide Bomber in Hotel Lobby 
March 5, 2002 Sderot 1 Baby Wounded   Kassam Rocket 
March 5, 2002 Afula 1 Killed, 10 Wounded   Suicide Bomber on Bus 
March 5, 2002 Tel Aviv 3 Killed, >35 Wounded   Gunman Opens Fire 
at Restaurants 
March 5, 2002 outside Bethlehem 1 Killed, 1 Wounded   Gunman 
Ambushes Vehicle 
March 2, 2002 Jerusalem 10 Killed, >50 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Suicide Bomber outside Synagogue 
February 27, 2002 West Bank 3 Wounded Fatah Female Suicide 
Bomber 
February 25, 2002 Jerusalem 1 Killed, 8 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Gunman Opens Fire at a Bus Stop 
February 25, 2002 Gush Etzion 1 Killed, 1 Pregnant Woman Wounded 
Fatah Al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Gunmen Open Fire on a Car 
February 22, 2002 Efrat 1 Wounded   Suicide Bomber in 
Supermarket 
February 22, 2002 North of Jerusalem 1 Killed Fatah Drive-by 
Shooting 
February 19, 2002 En Arik 6 Killed, 1 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Gunmen Open Fire at Soldiers 
February 18, 2002 Gush Katif 3 Killed, 4 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Gunfire and Bombs at Cars 
February 18, 2002 near Jerusalem 1 Killed, 1 Injured Fatah Al-
Aksa Martyrs Brigade Car Bomb 
February 16, 2002 Karnei Shomron 2 Killed, 27 Wounded Popular 
Front for the Liberation of Palestine Suicide Bomber at Crowded 
Shopping Mall 
February 14, 2002 Gaza 3 Killed, 4 Wounded   Mine Placed Under 
Tank 
February 10, 2002 Be'er Sheva 2 Killed, 4 Wounded Hamas Drive-by 
Shooting 
February 8, 2002 Jerusalem 1 Killed   4 Teenagers with Knives 
February 6, 2002 Moshav Hamra 2 Killed, 5 Wounded Hamas Gunmen 
Infiltrates Moshav 
January 30, 2002 Taiba 2 Wounded Fatah Suicide Bomber 
January 27, 2002 Jerusalem 1 Killed, >150 Wounded Fatah Female 
Suicide Bomber 
January 25, 2002 Tel Aviv 24 Wounded Islamic Jihad Suicide 
Bomber at Crowded Pedestrian Shopping Mall 
January 22, 2002 Jerusalem 2 Killed, 40 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Guman Opens Fire on Crowd 
January 17, 2002 Hadera 6 Killed, 35 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Gunman Opens Fire at Bat Mitzvah Celebration 
January 15, 2002 Beit Jala 1 Killed Fatah Al-Aksa Martyrs 
Brigade American Kidnapped and Murdered 
January 9, 2002 Kerem Shalom 4 Killed, 2 Wounded Hamas Gunfire 
and Expolsives 
December 12, 2001 Emmanuel 10 Killed, 30 Wounded Fatah & Hamas 
Bomb and Gunfire Attack on Bus 
December 9, 2001 Haifa 31 Wounded   Suicide Bomber 
December 2, 2001 Haifa 15 Killed, 46 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber on Bus 
December 1, 2001 Jerusalem 10 Killed, >188 Wounded Hamas 2 
Suicide Bombers and a Car Bomb in a Pedestrian Mall 
November 29, 2001 near Hadera 3 Killed, 9 Wounded Islamic Jihad 
& Fatah Suicide Bomber on Bus 
November, 27, 2001 Afula 2 Killed, Dozens Wounded Islamic Jihad 
& Fatah Al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade 2 Gunmen Opened Fire on Crowd 
near the Central Bus Station 
November, 27, 2001 Gush Katif 1 Killed, 3 Wounded Hamas Grenades 
and Gunfire 
November 26, 2001 Erez Checkpoint 2 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber 
November 24, 2001 Kfar Darom 1 Killed Hamas Morter Shell Landed 
on a Soccer Field 
November 4, 2001 Jerusalem 2 Killed, >50 Wounded Islamic Jihad 
Gunman 
October 28, 2001 Hadera 4 Killed, 40 Wounded   Gunman 
October 28, 2001 near Kibbutz Metzer 1 Killed Tanzim Drive-By 
Shooting 
October 17, 2001 Jerusalem Israeli Tourism Minister Rehavam 
Ze'evi Assasinated Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine 
Gunmen in Hotel 
October 7, 2001 Beit She'an Valley 1 Killed   Suicide Bomber 
October 4, 2001 Afula 3 Killed, 16 Wounded   Gunman Opens Fire 
on Crowd 
October 1, 2001 Jerusalem Several Wounded   Car Bomb 
September 9, 2001 Nahariya 3 Killed, 90 Wounded Hamas 1st 
Israeli-Arab Suicide Bomber, at Train Station 
September 9, 2001 West Bank 2 Killed, 4 Wounded   Gunmen 
September 4, 2001 Jerusalem 20 Wounded   Suicide Bomber 
disguised as Orthodox Jew 
September 3, 2001 Jerusalem 3 Wounded   Series of Car Bombs 
August 12, 2001 Kiryat Motzkin 21 Wounded Islamic Jihad Suicide 
Bomber at Cafe 
August 9, 2001 Jerusalem 15 Killed, >130 Wounded Islamic Jihad & 
Hamas Suicide Bomber at Pizzaria 
July 16, 2001 Binyamina 2 Killed, 11 Wounded Islamic Jihad 
Suicide Bomber at Bus Stop 
June 22, 2001 Dugit 2 Killed Hamas Suicide Bomber 
June 1, 2001 Tel Aviv 21 Killed, 120 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber at Disco 
May 30, 2001 Netanya 8 Wounded Islamic Jihad Car Bomb outside 
School 
May 27, 2001 Jerusalem 30 Wounded Popular Front for the 
Liberation of Palestine & Islamic Jihad 2 Car Bombs 
May 25, 2001 Hadera 65 Wounded Islamic Jihad Car Bomb 
May 18, 2001 Netanya 5 Killed, >100 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber 
at Mall 
May 9, 2001 Tekoa 2 Killed Islamic Jihad Two 14 year-old Boys 
Beaten and Stoned to Death, found dismembered in a Cave 
April 23, 2001 Or Yehuda 8 Wounded Islamic Jihad Car Bomb in 
Outdoor Market 
April 22, 2001 Kfar Saba 1 Killed, 60 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber at Bus Stop 
March 28, 2001 near Kfar Saba 2 Killed, 4 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber at School Bus Stop 
March 27, 2001 Jerusalem 7 Wounded Islamic Jihad Car Bomb 
March 27, 2001 Jerusalem 28 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber 
March 26, 2001 Hevron 10-Month Old Infant Shalhevet Pass 
Killed   Sniper from Abu Sneineh 
March 4, 2001 Netanya 3 Killed, >65 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber 
February 14, 2001 Azor 8 Killed, 21 Wounded Hamas Bus Driver 
Plows into Crowd 
January 23, 2001 Tulkarem 2 Killed Hamas Gunmen Kidnap and Shoot 
2 Israelis 
January 1, 2001 Netanya >50 Wounded Hamas Car Bomb 
December 22, 2000 Jordan Valley >3 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber 
November 22, 2000 Hadera 2 Killed, 55 Wounded Islamic Jihad Car 
Bomb next to Bus 
November 20, 2000 Kfar Darom 2 Killed, 9 Wounded   School Bus 
Bombed 
November 2, 2000 Jerusalem 2 Killed, 10 Wounded Islamic Jihad 
Car Bomb in outdoor Market 
October 26, 2000 Gaza 1 Wounded Islamic Jihad Youth Suicide 
Bomber on Bike 
November 7, 1999 Netanya 27 Wounded Hamas 3 Pipe Bombs 
August 10, 1999 Nahshon Junction 6 Wounded Hamas Car Plows into 
Crowd (Twice) 
November 6, 1998 Jerusalem 2 Killed, 20 Wounded Islamic Jihad 2 
Suicide Bombers 
October 29, 1998 Gush Katif 1 Killed, 8 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber Attacks School Bus 
October 19, 1998 Be'er Sheva 59 Wounded Hamas Grenades Thrown at 
Central Bus Station 
October 11, 1998 Hevron 18 Wounded Hamas 2 Grenades Injure 
Palestinians and Israelis 
August 27, 1998 Tel-Aviv 14 Wounded Hamas Bomb In Dumpster 
August 20, 1998 Tel Rumeiyda Rabbi Killed Hamas Fire Bomb & 
Stabbing 
September 4, 1997 Jerusalem 4 Killed, 181 Wounded Hamas 3 
Suicide Bombers at Pedestrian Mall 
July 30, 1997 Jerusalem 15 Killed, 178 Wounded Hamas 2 Suicide 
Bombers at Outdoor Market 
March 21, 1997 Tel-Aviv 3 Killed, 48 Wounded Hamas Bomb at 
Restaurant 
March 4, 1996 Tel Aviv 20 Killed, 75 Wounded Islamic Jihad 
Suicide Bomber at Mall 
March 3, 1996 Jerusalem 19 Killed, 6 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber on Bus 
February 25, 1996 Ashkelon 2 Killed Hamas Suicide Bomber at Bus 
Stop 
February 25, 1996 Jerusalem 26 Killed, 80 Wounded Hamas 2 
Suicide Bombers on Bus 
July 24, 1995 Ramat Gan 6 Killed, 31 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber on Bus 
June 25, 1995 Neve Dekalim 3 Wounded Islamic Jihad Explosives-
ladden Cart 
April 9, 1995 Gaza 8 Killed, 50 Wounded Hamas & Islamic Jihad 2 
Suicide Bombers 
January 22, 1995 Beit Lid Junction 21 Killed, 69 Wounded Islamic 
Jihad 2 Suicide Bombers at Bus Stop 
December 25, 1994 Jerusalem 13 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber at 
Bus Stop 
November 11, 1994 Netzarim Junction 3 Killed, 6 Wounded Islamic 
Jihad Suicide Bomber on Bike 
October 19, 1994 Tel Aviv 22 Killed, 56 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber on Bus 
October 9, 1994 Jerusalem 2 Killed, 14 Wounded Hamas 2 Gunmen 
Open Fire 
April 13, 1994 Hadera 5 Killed Hamas Suicide Bomber 
April 6, 1994 Afula 8 Killed Hamas Car Bomb next to Bus
---------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------

These fucking animals do not belong in a civilised nation like 
Israel. Pack the Pal's and send 'em back to their Arab brethren.
Problem solved.




From: Marie
To: A Foreigner
Date: Tue Sep 9 18:04:59 2003

Message:
From: A foreigner 
To: America 
Subject: 911 
Date: Mon Sep 8 06:01:02 2003 
Message:
The American people certainly did not deserve what happened on
September 11, 2001. However, such things are at least partially
the result of US government intervention in foreign affairs when
they are not wanted. Don't let them take your lives for their
policy mistakes. Hold them accountable.
-------------------------------------------

Hell No we did NOT deserve what happened on 9-11 Period!
Nothing is the result of anything partially or in whole due to 
Policy, or Who the Hell is in Office, or otherwise! 
Intervention for the most part hasnt been our main objective 
EVER!!! Unless asked, or unless it has been a direct threat to 
the United States of America! If people/governments are a 
direct threat to the security of this Nation, they WILL be delt 
with. We are a Freedom Loving Country! And we will do or take 
the precautions neccessary to acheive that! Be it in Iraq, or 
some other Country that threatens our peace and stablility!  
Dont kid yourself, If The Governments of Other Countries ask 
for our help, 90% of the time we give it!! The United States of 
America, gives more food, medicine, money, humanitarin aid, 
protection, etc,...More than ANY other Country. Now I'm not 
saying the rest of the world doesnt contribute, but they sure 
as hell do NOT contribute as much as the United States! Since 
we ARE FREE, There are those (Terrorists) mainly that want to 
see us Destroyed! Well it isnt going to happen! The AMERICAN 
people will see to that ourselves! The right to keep and bare 
Arms is a useful tool for us when we are at war or peacetime 
for that matter. It insures us the right to "Get rid of" Those 
that want to harm us, or destroy us! Our government and it's 
forein affairs policy, is NOT what bothers us, the fact 
that "People/Terrorists" in General want to kill us does! No 
one is taking our lives for any decision made in Washington DC! 
No One is taking OUR lives at ALL!! Or at least this time not 
without a fight by us the American people! (That is if they 
arent to chickenshit to show thier faces, and want to become 
martyrs first, they need a good old fashioned country ass 
whoopin before they become martyrs) The only ones we need to 
hold accountable are those that committed those horendous acts 
9-11-01.. Usama, Saddam, and/or any present or immenent threat 
to our country. If you look at the broad picture, it is better 
for us to fight them on thier territory, than ours! That is of 
course unless they are to chickenshit to meet us face to face! 
And by GOD the Majority of the American people would LOVE to 
meet them face to face, not in a cave, or a sandhole, etc.. but 
if they want to come here, they will meet the American's who 
dont get to get on the Armed forces list! (Our Excellent 
Military) They will meet us HEAD ON!!! I'm going on and on I 
know so to make this shorter, the only ones we need to hold 
accountable are the chickenshit bastards who did this it the 
first place!!! No One But the terrorists!!!

From: Marie
To: Iraqi
Date: Tue Sep 9 19:58:38 2003

Message:
We will certainly NOT forget you either!!!! :)
Now someday the French and German's will want to help you, (I 
dont know why I am saying this) but they will want to 
do ....... something, eventually!!! I dont know when, but I'm 
sure if they want to have an interest in Your Country, they 
will! It would be terribly sad, since the "Free Trade 
Agreement" that they would not be seeing products in thier 
countries eventually like "Made in Iraq"! I know we will be 
looking forward to it!!! Since I know and most of America knows 
this will not happen overnight, but we do expect to see 
products flowing from your country to ours, and ours flowing to 
yours!!!
It is exciting to most people! Nevermind the people that 
say "We shouldnt be there, and so on...They are like radical 
people who I guess have no value of Freedom or Life, (And I 
will admit) (Alot of American's take this for granted) but you 
are NEW to Freedom, I look forward to hearing alot from you! I 
am so terribly sorry that we built electricity, and satelite 
technology, and clean water, and so forth, and those terrorists 
from wherever destroyed it! But, we will rebuild it again, and 
hopefully watch for whoever wants to destroy it. We already 
know it's Saddam's loyal holdouts, we will get them. It's going 
to take you all also you know. We may have conquered the job, 
but you will have to join in and police your own country! Which 
I know you are ready and capable! You will get used to it, 
Freedom comes with a price, Freedom isnt Free!!  But you and 
anyone you know will have to stop the overflow of "Other 
Country Terrorists" that want to fight against us/you in YOUR 
name
which they care NOTHING about, only the fact that they hate 
American's! That's the only reason they are flowing over your 
borders, is to hunt down American's, but it's also become now a 
Haven for terrorist's of ANY kind (Which we already knew Al-
Quaeda) (Who bombed us 9-11-01) was there, but they will do 
Anything possible to spite you all. They now care nothing about 
YOU!  So you have to get up, take matters into your own hands, 
join the police force, and put a stop to this crap! Which wont 
be easy, but Freedom isnt easy! Oh your going to have crime and 
all, like we do, but the terrorists are your main concern right 
now! We cant control everything, just like you wont be able to, 
but in time you will have a substantial force that will take 
care of alot of it! Dont get upset if you have a deranged 
murder at for instance "McDonalds" that will happen. All you 
can do is try to prevent it from happening again. I could go on 
but it would take days lol...
Anyway I have faith in you! And you will get used to it. Just 
listen to the Military, all of them, the Coalition! They are 
used to Freedom, and they know what it takes to obtain it!
Good Luck to you!
Looking Forward to hearing from you again!

From: Marie
To: ?
Date: Tue Sep 9 21:17:10 2003

Message:
From: 
To: Iraqi 
Date: Mon Sep 8 19:52:14 2003 
Message:
No problem, coz you will not get our help. No electricity for 
years!
----------------------------------------------------

I'm sure they knew they had electricity, till the terrorists 
blew it up!!! They arent stupid people!!!

From: Marie
To:
Date: Tue Sep 9 21:21:49 2003

Message:
From: om/cf 
To: Father Philpott 
Date: Mon Sep 8 19:57:26 2003 
Message:
It is now obvious that Saddam has loaded all Iraq's weapons of 
MD into the back of his "Partridge Family" bus and is in hiding 
disguised as a hippy together with Osama. Last seen heading for 
Austin, Texas.
___________________________________

Try trucks rolling through Syria and into the Bekka Valley of 
Lebanon, and you will be closer to the truth
------------------------------------------

Closer to the TOTAL truth! I bet Iraqi knows! But I wont bring 
to much on him/her at once!!!

From: Atom Ant
To: Marie, om/cf etc.
Subject: Funny how you did not retort to this one, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Date: Wed Sep 10 03:44:30 2003

Message:
From: George Dublya BUSH 
To: France and Germany 
Date: Sun Sep 7 23:23:29 2003 
Message:
I'm sorry I called you names.
I'm sorry I renamed frech-fries to freedom fries.
I'm sorry I invaded Iraq with absolutely no plan for what came 
after.
I'm sorry we did not locate Saddam and that he is still free.
I'm sorry we did not locate Osama and that he is still free.
I'm sorry that the U.S. has another Vietnam on it's hands.
I'm sorry our boys are gonna be in Iraq for years and years at 
great expense to the American tax-payer.
I'm sorry France and Germany were right and I was 
wrong....pllllllllllease come and help us out of this God-awful 
mess we have created!!!!!!

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To:
Subject: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Date: Wed Sep 10 03:49:25 2003

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From: om/cf
To: Piss Ant
Date: Wed Sep 10 07:19:53 2003

Message:
Apologise to gutless Euro-scum like France and Germany? Don't 
hold your Kumbaya singing breath, chump. Nothing to apologise 
about.

From: Marie
To: Atom Ant
Date: Wed Sep 10 09:06:44 2003

Message:
From: Atom Ant 
To: Marie, om/cf etc. 
Subject: Funny how you did not retort to this one, 
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? 
Date: Wed Sep 10 03:44:30 2003 
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Not really, I fell asleep! I will get to you soon lol...

From:
To:
Date: Wed Sep 10 09:18:51 2003

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HELLO, I AM AN AMERICAN RACIST

* I ASSUME THAT ALL ARABS ARE TERRORISTS
* I ASSUME ALL GERMANS ARE FASCISTS
* I ASSUME JEWS JERK OFF OVER PICTURES OF BANKS
* I ASSUME BLACKS STOLE SOMETHING
* I ASSUME ASIANS ARE BAD DRIVERS
* I ASSUME ENGLISH HAVE BAD TEETH
* I ASSUME WOMEN ARE EASILY MANIPULATED AND GOOD FOR SEX
* I ASSUME RUSSIANS ARE ALCOHOLICS AND COMMUNISTS
* I ASSUME AUSTRALIANS ARE CROCODILE HUNTERS WHO BASH INANIMATE
OBJECTS
* I ASSUME ALL AUSTRLIANS ARE MUSCLY BODYBUILDERS WITH GOOFY LAUGHS
* I ASSUME ALL FRENCH ARE GAY MEN WITH GARLIC BREATH
* I ASSUME SWEDISH HAVE SEX ALL THE TIME
* I ASSUME ITALIANS ARE IN THE MAFIA AND SAY 'MAMA MIA!'
* I ASSUME JAPANESE ARE INTO BDSM AND YELL A LOT
* I ASSUME THAIS ARE ALL PROSTITUTES AND KICKBOXERS
* I ASSUME ALL ZIMBABWE'S KILL WHITE FARMERS
* I ASSUME ALL KHAZAKSTANIS ARE CALLED BORAT AND DO DUMB STREET
INTERVIEWS
* I ASSUME ALL CANADIANS HAVE MULLETS AND LISTEN TO RUSH
* I ASSUME ALL MEXICANS EAT BEANS AND LIVE OFF WELFARE
* I ASSUME ALL SCOTTISH ARE TEMPRAMENTAL AND EAT HAGGIS
* I ASSUME ALL DUTCH HAVE GOLDEN PENISES
* I ASSUME ALL (AMERICAN) INDIANS DRINK TOO MUCH AND SCALP PEOPLE
* I ASSUME ALL INDIANS SAY 'BIRDIE NUM NUM' AND DRIVE CABS
* I ASSUME LEBANESE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS FORMING GANGS
* I ALSO ASSUME THE SAME FOR VIETNAMESE
* I ASSUME ALL PALESTINIANS WANT TO STRAP BOMBS TO THEMSELVES AND
KILL PEOPLE
* I ASSUME ALL EASTERN EUROPEANS ARE SCRUFFY, DRUNK AND UNWASHED
* I ASSUME GREEKS ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME
* I ASSUME TURKS ARE PROBABLY ALL HOMOSEXUAL DUE TO THEIR GAY
MOUSTACHES (WHICH EVEN THE WOMEN HAVE)
* I ASSUME COLOMBIANS MAKE DRUGS ALL THE TIME
* I ASSUME THE WHOLE WORLD IS STUPID EXCEPT AMERICA

From: A dumb american
To:
Date: Wed Sep 10 09:31:38 2003

Message:
I also assume that English is the language everybody is born to
speak and other languages are dumb, and people should be
retrained to speak English which is instinctive to all civilised
humans, except Muslims, who speak monkey stuff.

I assume anyone without perfect teeth is bad and should pe put
into concentration camps.

I assume that the media never lies.

From:
To:
Date: Wed Sep 10 09:35:43 2003

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I assume that everybody aspires to be an American, except for
Osama Bin Laden, who is just a jealous communist. They just want
perfect hollywood teeth.

From: om/cf
To:
Date: Wed Sep 10 09:35:53 2003

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you ASSume all Americans who want to see 
terrorist scum vaporized are racist bastards. You know what 
happens when you assume, don't you?

From:
To:
Date: Wed Sep 10 10:55:14 2003

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I assume that om/cf has big teeth, a loud mouth and big thick
rimmed glasses.

From: Marie
To: Sa27
Date: Wed Sep 10 09:09:40 2003

Message:
Baseless? Israeli intelligence, British, Polish, etc... couldnt 
tell what the hell it was (At the time) moving across the Iraqi 
border into Syria, and Lebanon! Dont forget when they see 
something (Sited Intelligence) at any particular time it has to 
be investigated! Or I suppose the Israeli's (Not knowing what 
it was) could have just blown the crap out of the entire convoy 
NOT knowing whether there were women and children all 884 (Just 
a guesstimate) of them heading on a camping trip!! (Just a for 
instance) Ok answer this: Since he admitted having all the 
stuff you mentioned ("25,000 liters of anthrax...38,000 liters 
of 
botulinum? toxin...500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve 
agent...29,984 prohibited munitions) (Quite Impressive, keeping 
up sort of? lol..) What did he do with them? Where did they go? 
Why was it left out in his last report to the UN? If it wasnt 
in a Convoy heading to Syria or Lebanon, where did he hide 
them? Or destroy them? Where is a site we can test to find out 
if or when this stuff was destroyed? And why not mention this 
in the United Nations report provided by Saddam, and meant to 
halt Resolution 1441? How do we know that Israeli and other 
intellegence DIDNT follow or "Track" them? And are still on the 
trail. I mean they were spotted crossing over those borders. If 
he had the capability to build all those palaces (With our "Oil 
For Food" program money I might add) transport the weapons 
there to begin with, haul huge objects like underground pipes 
for his lavish underground bunkers, all those humungous statues 
of himself, etc.. etc.. Then he deffinetly had the capability 
to move these weapons, besides with just a couple of p/u 
trucks! !@#$#@! 
I dont believe I ever heard Bush use the words "Our Superior 
Military" in his State of the Union speech, I could be wrong, I 
will look it up and find out, just doesnt sound like something 
he would say (Even though it's true) and I just dont remember 
that! I dont think Bush used the words "Warehouses Packed to 
the Cieling" of WMD's either. I believe it was underground 
bunkers, trucks with hidden doors with "Mini-Labs" hidden in 
them, etc.. 
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Your words: "Unfortunately, some Americans bit on it, and went 
crazy demanding justice before the evidence was brought to the 
table. Here we are now months later, inspectors can find no 
evidence".
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You forgot the word YET! If ALL if the intelligence from ALL 
the sources told Bush we were going to be attacked at 8:40 ET
September 11, 2001, (Just a for instance) and Bush did nothing 
to stop it, he and his administration would have got it with 
both barrels by EVERYONE in this Country, from his own House, 
Senate, Congress, and the American people themselves. So then 
he DOES get the intelligence about Saddam, not to mention the 
proof (Gasing of his own people) just to name one, more and 
more intell, gathers, looks like a threat is comming our 
way "Again" he DOES do something to prevent it from happening, 
and still gets it by his own people. He is damned if he does, 
and damned if he doesnt! Saddam had alot of years to build up 
and hide this stuff, it may take a few years to find it! I 
would at least give our President a chance. I mean it's only 
been months as you put it like 6?, this isnt WW2 or Viet Nam, 
this war didnt go on for years and years. And the only idiots 
left are some loyal Saddam holdouts that want to take potshots 
at our Soldiers. Worst case scenario (Or maybe best): Maybe 
Saddam made it look like he had all this crap, thinking the US 
and coalition would NEVER invade and dismantle, made it look 
like he was transporting something across those borders, made 
this whole sharade up, and we will never find anything! I doubt 
it though seeing as he gased his own people, and every enemy 
camp the coalition troops found along the way had gas masks 
left behind, the condition his mind was in, (Scarey thought)we 
or the coalition will find them. What are you going to do if 
intellegence (From all over) sees a threat comming at us from 
let's say Iran? They have already admitted they have Nuclear 
weapons! What if we stop that threat before it becomes such a 
reality that they could be knocking on our door with a Nuke? 
Will you still be saying "It was unjust", we shouldnt have done 
that, we had no business interferring in thier affairs? Or 
should we sit back and let them strike us and blow our asses 
off the map? I guess then you nor I wont be saying anything we 
will be dead! The point I am trying to make here is we have no 
choice but to strike them before they strike us. I do recall in 
Pres. Bush's State of the Union '03, and the speech he gave 
shortly after 9-11-'01, he said "We are fighting a different 
kind of war, this war will take a long time, and we will either 
bring Justice to our enemy's or our enemy's to Justice!!
If we want to live, we had better learn how to be patient, and 
deal with this in any way we can, and remove ANY threat to us 
by ANY means necessary! And not moan and whine about it, and be 
thankful we have another day to exist.

From: FANGTOOTH
To:
Date: Wed Sep 10 11:28:11 2003

Message:
NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE EASIER TO MAKE THAN YOU THINK

From: Marie
To: Katalin
Date: Wed Sep 10 11:02:50 2003

Message:
You are so correct. Every time it looks like there is a chance 
for peace, like for instance this last time with the 
Palestinian Prime Minister who just resigned, Hamas, or Islamic 
Jihad or whatever terrorist group it is that day have to go and 
blow it (Literally). Om/Cf is much better with referances and 
numbers than I am. As you can see. I do believe the Israeli 
Govt. wants peace, I think they are pretty much like us, they 
want to have a life and just be left alone, but it must be so 
incredibly hard for them never knowing what is going to happen, 
or who is going to get blown to bits on a daily basis. And on 
the other hand the Palestinians want something they can call 
Palestine! It's a damn shame that they cant share the holy 
parts that would border on both countries, but that looks 
impossible with what has turned into a land full of terrorists 
right next door. I couldnt imagine if say Mexico turned into a 
Palestine! We wouldnt put up with that any more than the 
Israeli's. I cant blame them for wanting to retaliate every 
time one of those homicide bombers pulls one of thier episodes 
that kills men, women, children, all innocent people. And they 
have quite a knack for "Hitting thier targets",  I mean fly 
over in a helicopter gunship (How they know who is in the car I 
have no idea) and get a direct hit on a Hamas leader in his car 
for instance! Then the Palestinians call a cease fire (Well 
Hamas, or Islamic Jihad etc..)for 2 months, which lasted all of 
about 2 weeks, everything was calm, then boom, another homicide 
attack. I truly dont know what is going to take them down the 
path to peace. We can try to help, but that is about all we can 
do. Actually even the Bush administration didnt like that idea, 
I thought building a wall, fence, whatever to keep the 
terrorist's out was a pretty good idea. I still think that is a 
good idea at least temporarily in Iraq! That would be one huge 
fence lol..checkpoints, the whole works! Dissarm everybody till 
all the crap calms down, and they have an established 
government there. But back to Isreal and Palestine, I'm 
inclined to agree with Om/Cf on this, until the terrorists are 
gone, send them packing until they learn how to act like decent 
civilized humans. I dont see anything in the way of peace 
happening there until then. I sure dont know what else to do.

From: Marie
To: Dubya, Yeah right!
Date: Wed Sep 10 11:42:14 2003

Message:
From: George Dublya BUSH 
To: France and Germany 
Date: Sun Sep 7 23:23:29 2003 
Message:
I'm sorry I called you names.
I'm sorry I renamed frech-fries to freedom fries.
I'm sorry I invaded Iraq with absolutely no plan for what came 
after.
I'm sorry we did not locate Saddam and that he is still free.
I'm sorry we did not locate Osama and that he is still free.
I'm sorry that the U.S. has another Vietnam on it's hands.
I'm sorry our boys are gonna be in Iraq for years and years at 
great expense to the American tax-payer.
I'm sorry France and Germany were right and I was 
wrong....pllllllllllease come and help us out of this God-awful 
mess we have created!!!!!!
---------------------------------------------

What the hell do we have to apologise for?
Saving our own asses?
I think not!!
I dont see how you can take "An update on the war on terror" 
and turn it into an apology session to those who have a vested 
interest in what goes on in Iraq. That is of course if they 
want no part of any trade, or oil, or money making opportunity 
with a new Iraq! Which they will be the ones left behind if 
they dont. Someday in the next couple of years we will have 
trade going from America to Iraq, and back and fourth, and 
Britain, and the other 30 countries. But like the Iraqi person 
said above, they arent going to forget who saved and helped 
rebuild them. As well as saving our own asses. But hey Bush was 
kind enough to give them an opportunity to jump on the "Lets 
all get together and help" bandwagon, it's up to them if they 
blow it! It may not look like it to you, but there is going to 
be a time when there will be alot of money to be made by 
exchanging goods and services with Iraq. It wont happen 
overnight but it will happen. And if Germany, France, etc.. 
dont want to get involved well it's thier loss. They will be 
the ones sitting back and saying "Well shit maybe we should 
have", but by then it will be to late! As for 
apologies...P'Shaw! We have NOTHING to apologise for!

From: Marie
To:
Date: Wed Sep 10 12:32:38 2003

Message:
From: A dumb american 
To: 
Date: Wed Sep 10 09:31:38 2003 
Message:
I also assume that English is the language everybody is born to
speak and other languages are dumb, and people should be
retrained to speak English which is instinctive to all civilised
humans, except Muslims, who speak monkey stuff.

I assume anyone without perfect teeth is bad and should pe put
into concentration camps.

I assume that the media never lies.
-------------------------------------------

I assume you just put Barbie and Ken down and have nothing 
better to do while you wait for Mom to make you some lunch!

From: sa27
To: marie
Date: Wed Sep 10 17:37:48 2003

Message:
your right, Bush never said those words. Thats probably why I 
didnt put them in quotes. When something is in quotes, that 
means that it is a quote. If it is not in quotes, then it is not 
a quote. Got it? Oh, and Polish intelligence? Is that just a 
little bit of a contradiction?

Even if the Americans find the weapons, I don't believe that it 
justifies the war. Wars are not something that should be started 
because of accusations and suspicions. There was never any 
evidence!! You can talk about all the unaccounted materials and 
admissions you want. That was all we were going on. I never saw 
any proof. That is what alot of us war protestors are pissed off 
about.

If the weapons are found, that doesnt explain what Bush 
said: "The only possible explanation, the only possible use he 
could have for those weapons, is to dominate, intimidate or 
attack." I dont remember Saddam using his WMDs against American 
forces when his back was against the wall. Keep in mind that 
Bush said that quote on January 29, 2003. That quote is in the 
present tense.  So bringing up anything about him gassing Kurds 
or the Iraq-Iran war is irrelevant to this context. 

Since he had the weapons (acccording to you and Bush) why didn't 
he use them for domination, intimidation or attacking? Bush said 
that was "The only possible explanation"!!

From: neutral
To: to americans
Subject: vietnam
Date: Mon Jan 21 20:06:58 2002

Message:
if americans are so big and tough why did you have to run like 
pussies out of vietnam not to mension korea and somalia not so 
tough then were you said the same shit then but you lost so 
badly the truth is your full of shit you cant fight to save your 
lives thats why you had to get the fuck out of there wake up 
americas going down.

From: neutral
To: marie
Subject: israil
Date: Wed Sep 10 20:40:11 2003

Message:
the day your kicked off your land and made to live in horrible  
filthy conditions in refugee camps then maybe you will feel 
different about the palistinians. but the reality of it is that 
its not happening to you so you can very easly say that its not 
the way to go about things. but the major issue is that america 
gave the israilly people the ability to do this and the fact 
that over 20 odd times america used their veto in the U.N to 
protect israil is of serious consern to the rest of the world 
besides americans. maybe now you know why the rest of europe 
think americans are distructive ignorant fools.

From: Twazlahog
To: om/cf
Date: Thu Sep 11 03:33:21 2003

Message:
If Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, why didn't they use 
them to repel US forces? Didn't General Schwarzkopf say he had 
removed 90% military capability of Iraq during the Gulf War.

Face it, your precious Republicans are liars. Keep an 'open 
mind'.


From: Father Philpott
To: om/cf and others
Date: Thu Sep 11 03:44:19 2003

Message:
So, you are telling me that the U.S. technology is inferior to 
Iraqw's? The U.S. are incapable of locating Iraq's weapons of MD 
because of superior Iraqi technology? Gimme a break! If their 
technology was that good how come their army collapsed within 
days? You guys make me laugh, you make up an excuse to invade a 
country, then spend the rest of your lives perpetuating the lie.

What doesn't the U.S, just be honest in their intentions? You 
wanted to invadre Iraq because you are rampant imperialists!

Most Yanks do not even know where Iraq is!

From:
To:
Date: Thu Sep 11 06:48:40 2003

Message:
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From: Germein Greer
To:
Date: Thu Sep 11 08:09:46 2003

Message:
The trade centre bombings were really just the circumcision of
two giant penises.

From: Marie
To:
Subj